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The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.
The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” he writes in the document, labeled as the “Opinion of the Court.” “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”


Deliberations on controversial cases have in the past been fluid. Justices can and sometimes do change their votes as draft opinions circulate and major decisions can be subject to multiple drafts and vote-trading, sometimes until just days before a decision is unveiled. The court’s holding will not be final until it is published, likely in the next two months.
The immediate impact of the ruling as drafted in February would be to end a half-century guarantee of federal constitutional protection of abortion rights and allow each state to decide whether to restrict or ban abortion. It’s unclear if there have been subsequent changes to the draft.
No draft decision in the modern history of the court has been disclosed publicly while a case was still pending. The unprecedented revelation is bound to intensify the debate over what was already the most controversial case on the docket this term.
The draft opinion offers an extraordinary window into the justices’ deliberations in one of the most consequential cases before the court in the last five decades. Some court-watchers predicted that the conservative majority would slice away at abortion rights without flatly overturning a 49-year-old precedent. The draft shows that the court is looking to reject Roe’s logic and legal protections.
Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division.”
Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion
A person familiar with the court’s deliberations said that four of the other Republican-appointed justices – Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett – had voted with Alito in the conference held among the justices after hearing oral arguments in December, and that line-up remains unchanged as of this week.


The three Democratic-appointed justices – Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan – are working on one or more dissents, according to the person. How Chief Justice John Roberts will ultimately vote, and whether he will join an already written opinion or draft his own, is unclear.
The document, labeled as a first draft of the majority opinion, includes a notation that it was circulated among the justices on Feb. 10. If the Alito draft is adopted, it would rule in favor of Mississippi in the closely watched case over that state’s attempt to ban most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy.
A Supreme Court spokesperson declined to comment or make another representative of the court available to answer questions about the draft document.
POLITICO received a copy of the draft opinion from a person familiar with the court’s proceedings in the Mississippi case along with other details supporting the authenticity of the document. The draft opinion runs 98 pages, including a 31-page appendix of historical state abortion laws. The document is replete with citations to previous court decisions, books and other authorities, and includes 118 footnotes. The appearances and timing of this draft are consistent with court practice.
The disclosure of Alito’s draft majority opinion – a rare breach of Supreme Court secrecy and tradition around its deliberations – comes as all sides in the abortion debate are girding for the ruling. Speculation about the looming decision has been intense since the December oral arguments indicated a majority was inclined to support the Mississippi law.
Under longstanding court procedures, justices hold preliminary votes on cases shortly after argument and assign a member of the majority to write a draft of the court’s opinion. The draft is often amended in consultation with other justices, and in some cases the justices change their votes altogether, creating the possibility that the current alignment on Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization could change.
The chief justice typically assigns majority opinions when he is in the majority. When he is not, that decision is typically made by the most senior justice in the majority.

‘Exceptionally weak’​

A George W. Bush appointee who joined the court in 2006, Alito argues that the 1973 abortion rights ruling was an ill-conceived and deeply flawed decision that invented a right mentioned nowhere in the Constitution and unwisely sought to wrench the contentious issue away from the political branches of government.
Alito’s draft ruling would overturn a decision by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals that found the Mississippi law ran afoul of Supreme Court precedent by seeking to effectively ban abortions before viability.

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Roe’s “survey of history ranged from the constitutionally irrelevant to the plainly incorrect,” Alito continues, adding that its reasoning was “exceptionally weak,” and that the original decision has had “damaging consequences.”
“The inescapable conclusion is that a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the Nation’s history and traditions,” Alito writes.
Alito approvingly quotes a broad range of critics of the Roe decision. He also points to liberal icons such as the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe, who at certain points in their careers took issue with the reasoning in Roe or its impact on the political process.
Alito’s skewering of Roe and the endorsement of at least four other justices for that unsparing critique is also a measure of the court’s rightward turn in recent decades. Roe was decided 7-2 in 1973, with five Republican appointees joining two justices nominated by Democratic presidents.
The overturning of Roe would almost immediately lead to stricter limits on abortion access in large swaths of the South and Midwest, with about half of the states set to immediately impose broad abortion bans. Any state could still legally allow the procedure.
“The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion,” the draft concludes. “Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”
The draft contains the type of caustic rhetorical flourishes Alito is known for and that has caused Roberts, his fellow Bush appointee, some discomfort in the past.
At times, Alito’s draft opinion takes an almost mocking tone as it skewers the majority opinion in Roe, written by Justice Harry Blackmun, a Richard Nixon appointee who died in 1999.
Roe expressed the ‘feel[ing]’ that the Fourteenth Amendment was the provision that did the work, but its message seemed to be that the abortion right could be found somewhere in the Constitution and that specifying its exact location was not of paramount importance,” Alito writes.
Alito declares that one of the central tenets of Roe, the “viability” distinction between fetuses not capable of living outside the womb and those which can, “makes no sense.”
In several passages, he describes doctors and nurses who terminate pregnancies as “abortionists.”
When Roberts voted with liberal jurists in 2020 to block a Louisiana law imposing heavier regulations on abortion clinics, his solo concurrence used the more neutral term “abortion providers.” In contrast, Justice Clarence Thomas used the word “abortionist” 25 times in a solo dissent in the same case.


Alito’s use of the phrase “egregiously wrong” to describe Roe echoes language Mississippi Solicitor General Scott Stewart used in December in defending his state’s ban on abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. The phrase was also contained in an opinion Kavanaugh wrote as part of a 2020 ruling that jury convictions in criminal cases must be unanimous.
In that opinion, Kavanaugh labeled two well-known Supreme Court decisions “egregiously wrong when decided”: the 1944 ruling upholding the detention of Japanese Americans during World War II, Korematsu v. United States, and the 1896 decision that blessed racial segregation under the rubric of “separate but equal,” Plessy v. Ferguson.
The high court has never formally overturned Korematsu, but did repudiate the decision in a 2018 ruling by Roberts that upheld then-President Donald Trump’s travel ban policy.

The legacy of Plessy v. Ferguson​

Plessy remained the law of the land for nearly six decades until the court overturned it with the Brown v. Board of Education school desegregation ruling in 1954.
Quoting Kavanaugh, Alito writes of Plessy: “It was ‘egregiously wrong,’ on the day it was decided.”
Alito’s draft opinion includes, in small type, a list of about two pages’ worth of decisions in which the justices overruled prior precedents – in many instances reaching results praised by liberals.
The implication that allowing states to outlaw abortion is on par with ending legal racial segregation has been hotly disputed. But the comparison underscores the conservative justices’ belief that Roe is so flawed that the justices should disregard their usual hesitations about overturning precedent and wholeheartedly renounce it.
Alito’s draft opinion ventures even further into this racially sensitive territory by observing in a footnote that some early proponents of abortion rights also had unsavory views in favor of eugenics.
“Some such supporters have been motivated by a desire to suppress the size of the African American population,” Alito writes. “It is beyond dispute that Roe has had that demographic effect. A highly disproportionate percentage of aborted fetuses are black.”
Alito writes that by raising the point he isn’t casting aspersions on anyone. “For our part, we do not question the motives of either those who have supported and those who have opposed laws restricting abortion,” he writes.
Alito also addresses concern about the impact the decision could have on public discourse. “We cannot allow our decisions to be affected by any extraneous influences such as concern about the public’s reaction to our work,” Alito writes. “We do not pretend to know how our political system or society will respond to today’s decision overruling Roe and Casey. And even if we could foresee what will happen, we would have no authority to let that knowledge influence our decision.”


In the main opinion in the 1992 Casey decision, Justices Sandra Day O’Connor, Anthony Kennedy and Davis Souter warned that the court would pay a “terrible price” for overruling Roe, despite criticism of the decision from some in the public and the legal community.
“While it has engendered disapproval, it has not been unworkable,” the three justices wrote then. “An entire generation has come of age free to assume Roe‘s concept of liberty in defining the capacity of women to act in society, and to make reproductive decisions; no erosion of principle going to liberty or personal autonomy has left Roe‘s central holding a doctrinal remnant.”
When Dobbs was argued in December, Roberts seemed out of sync with the other conservative justices, as he has been in a number of cases including one challenging the Affordable Care Act.
At the argument session last fall, Roberts seemed to be searching for a way to uphold Mississippi’s 15-week ban without completely abandoning the Roe framework.
“Viability, it seems to me, doesn’t have anything to do with choice. But, if it really is an issue about choice, why is 15 weeks not enough time?” Roberts asked during the arguments. “The thing that is at issue before us today is 15 weeks.”

Nods to conservative colleagues​

While Alito’s draft opinion doesn’t cater much to Roberts’ views, portions of it seem intended to address the specific interests of other justices. One passage argues that social attitudes toward out-of-wedlock pregnancies “have changed drastically” since the 1970s and that increased demand for adoption makes abortion less necessary.
Those points dovetail with issues that Barrett – a Trump appointee and the court’s newest member – raised at the December arguments. She suggested laws allowing people to surrender newborn babies on a no-questions-asked basis mean carrying a pregnancy to term doesn’t oblige one to engage in child rearing.
“Why don’t the safe haven laws take care of that problem?” asked Barrett, who adopted two of her seven children.
Much of Alito’s draft is devoted to arguing that widespread criminalization of abortion during the 19th and early 20th century belies the notion that a right to abortion is implied in the Constitution.
The conservative justice attached to his draft a 31-page appendix listing laws passed to criminalize abortion during that period. Alito claims “an unbroken tradition of prohibiting abortion on pain of criminal punishment…from the earliest days of the common law until 1973.”


“Until the latter part of the 20th century, there was no support in American law for a constitutional right to obtain an abortion. Zero. None. No state constitutional provision had recognized such a right,” Alito adds.
Alito’s draft argues that rights protected by the Constitution but not explicitly mentioned in it – so-called unenumerated rights – must be strongly rooted in U.S. history and tradition. That form of analysis seems at odds with several of the court’s recent decisions, including many of its rulings backing gay rights.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled. The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision....”
Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion
Liberal justices seem likely to take issue with Alito’s assertion in the draft opinion that overturning Roe would not jeopardize other rights the courts have grounded in privacy, such as the right to contraception, to engage in private consensual sexual activity and to marry someone of the same sex.
“We emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” Alito writes. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”
Alito’s draft opinion rejects the idea that abortion bans reflect the subjugation of women in American society. “Women are not without electoral or political power,” he writes. “The percentage of women who register to vote and cast ballots is consistently higher than the percentage of men who do so.”
The Supreme Court remains one of Washington’s most secretive institutions, priding itself on protecting the confidentiality of its internal deliberations.
“At the Supreme Court, those who know don’t talk, and those who talk don’t know,” Ginsburg was fond of saying.
That tight-lipped reputation has eroded somewhat in recent decades due to a series of books by law clerks, law professors and investigative journalists. Some of these authors clearly had access to draft opinions such as the one obtained by POLITICO, but their books emerged well after the cases in question were resolved.
The justices held their final arguments of the current term on Wednesday. The court has set a series of sessions over the next two months to release rulings in its still-unresolved cases, including the Mississippi abortion case.
 
It's effective an abortion ban in 26 states. If there is nothing in the Constitution for it, there's nothing about corporate interests or having slaves be citizens.
Leaving it up to the states themselves is not literally a ban, even if those 26 states decide to technically ban it. Leftist can face their own hypocrisies such as second amendment issues in certain states (cough Illinois, CA, etc.) and maybe face they set up for this precedent which falls on their shoulders for enabling such a slippery slope with their stupidity. It was all fine and dandy until it came to bite them on the ass. It's even funnier as this could have been preventable but the whole mask mandate issue called this concept into issue along some other pushes in politics recently.

responsibility and consequences being observed how amazing.

You'd think the left would be against abortion, since it means less kids to rape.
There's actually a method to this seeming madness. A large demographic of democrat voters are women. Since the 1960's our country has moved towards feminist empowerment and feminization of the west. Women's rule naturally fails to push a focus on predators due to evolution. Thus the predators enable the women's rule over society and then they get free reign. This means they have to adhere to whatever the ladies want even though deep down they're only using it as a means of predation. Look at all the groomers coming out of the wood work, this isn't a coincidence or accident, it was set up to cause such an issue. It also leads to a lack of accountability and responsibility, something that has become more common in our current society which is also no accident.
 
That is absolutely not the reality for people living in more urban areas of conservative states, especially due to gerrymandering. To think otherwise is actually delusional and not based in reality. But sure. let's have some dumbfuck from Iowa State legislate my medical decisions, retard.
Putting aside that I said "the majority" for a reason, the sum total of the conservatives in conservative states and democrats in democrat states significantly outnumber the total of either party on it's own, it's also true that many poor conservatives living in rural areas of blue states have to put up with the shit from their majority, gerrymandering and all. That's a given of living in any particularly lopsided political boundary. Acting like that's something only democrats suffer from is either the empathy of Marie Antoinette or the intellectual honesty of a Skinwalker.

And once again, the only people who can decide what Iowa State's abortion laws are is Iowa State's elected politicians.

Why did you choose Iowa State, by the way? From what I can tell, there's a pretty unambiguous political majority in Republican favour there - ~900k to ~760k. No gerrymandering required to get a majority republican government. And if you're not in Iowa State, like I said, they cannot decide your abortion laws. So either you live there and you're delusional about the gerrymandering, it's just what the majority wants there, or you're too lathered up to realise that state-led laws are inherently limited to the state and you're screeching about someone who can't cause the change you fear and has no reason to in the first place.
 
Abortion is a relative non-issue in this country. The left is going to try and abolish the filibuster and pack the court. This will further energize an already energized Right-Wing constituency, and Democrats will continue to struggle to energize their base outside of this single issue, as they've not accomplished anything other than "infrastructure".

It's almost like Democrats forget that we're still seeing food shortages, rent increases, gasoline prices skyrocketing, and massive inflation. Those issues will drive votes, not abortion.
I wouldn't go this far, ending Roe V Wade will help the Dems a bit with the mid-terms in my opinion; but I do think it would be helping them a lot more if the current Dem administration wasn't doing it's absolute utmost to accidentally the whole economy.
 
I wouldn't go this far, ending Roe V Wade will help the Dems a bit with the mid-terms in my opinion; but I do think it would be helping them a lot more if the current Dem administration wasn't doing it's absolute utmost to accidentally the whole economy.
I agree with how the Dems think it'll (and might a tad) help come midterms; however it'll not help with things to come in the long run issues wise.
I'll surmise (and I should prob go to sleep soon anyhow):
1. Gas Prices steady out (still double the price it was a couple of months ago), but do continue to rise again (locally it rose 30 cents last night).
2. Issues with supply chains due to folks not wanting to work; this'll cause foods and goods prices to rise (and already has).
3. Modern-Day Slavery: I've seen a rise in folks doing gig economy work (Uber Eats, Lyft, etc) where they'll work at their own pace and make less than federal minimum wage after all taxes, wear and tear, etc is counted.
a. It's funny and quite a bit sad to see the mental gymnastics folks will do in trying to convince themselves that the 9$ food delivery order that took them 45 minutes to do was worth it and better than working at the supermarket; while the folks working at the supermarket are doing better in terms of taxes and not wearing down their car doing these various drives around town (especially with the cost of gas being high).

The First 2 issues most folks can see; tho not all will think about it (especially the upper middle-class dem voters and the lower income folks who don't watch their money).
As for the last, it's just been my personal observation about it and experience from doing Lyft back in 2018 (I would never do that again as I made $9 an hour on average keeping track of my wear-and-tear on my car and tax costs/deductions); comparatively I make quite a bit better now (even with higher state minimum wage), given I work at a job where I work without having to travel a lot and being easily able to keep constant track of all of my taxes.
 
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I'm guessing one of the staffers there was nudged to go ahead and do it.
They do know that they are going to be Seth Rich'd for this right? You just don't leak info in DC without consequence; especially from the place where party bias is typically held aside.
 
We are looking at nothing less than a societal-level meltdown for:
a) the next week
b) 1-2 months once the decision officially drops

The chance this is fake and gay exists but is probably pretty small.

Buckle up.
Really that long, this will cause chaos, who thought it was a bright idea to leak this then delay the results? I say vote now. Strike it down, abortion is murder. It being legallized and promted in crime aginst humanity and God. We are now talking about killing babies within 28 days of birth because we allowed abortion, this is human sacrifice.
 
The Democrats had fifty fucking years to legislate for this, and they shit the bed and did nothing.

They were warned over and over, including by then-sitting Supreme Court Justices, that the ratio of Roe was unsustainable, and the right to first trimester termination was not secure unless it was legislated for. They never listened. It was too politically radioactive, except at every single election when they invoked the bogeyman of Roe repeal to get their female vote out.

This was always not merely a possibility, but an eventual inevitability.

The question is what a Democratic administration does now, now that the comfort blanket of Roe has been yanked. There is no longer an option to do nothing: by commission or omission, this is in their hands.
This is absolutely 100 and 10 percent correct. Have a:winner:sticker on me. The Dems have no one but themselves to blame for this, they could have either passed legislation legalizing first trimester abortion; or they could have kept Roe from being overturned by forcing Ginsburg to retire back when they had a fucking super majority in congress before 2010. The Dems fucked up hard, and now Roe is dead and they have no real backup plan that I can see.
 
Really that long, this will cause chaos, who thought it was a bright idea to leak this then delay the results? I say vote now. Strike it down, abortion is murder. It being legallized and promted in crime aginst humanity and God. We are now talking about killing babies within 28 days of birth because we allowed abortion, this is human sacrifice.
They should also decide now, because they cannot allow the leak, which is attempted intimidation of the court, to influence their decision.
 
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That was a major point of debate in Ireland, which only lifted the near-total abortion ban a few years ago. The main problem with including a clause for rape is how do you arrive at that conclusion in a timely manner? Most rape trials take years to work their way through the courts so you can’t wait for a normal guilty verdict. If you try to railroad the case through within a couple of months there will be appeals on the basis that the investigation was rushed. If you go on the honour system, the decision to allow an abortion will be argued to have had an undue influence on any future trial because it infringes on the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty. There really isn’t a good solution.
Thank you for your perspective.
 
They should also decide now because they cannot allow the leak, which is attempted intimidation of the court, to influence their decision.
Unfortunately, yes. It's becoming common practice for the left to use mob violence and outrage to try to force the justice system to toe their line, they did it during the Chauvin trial and that's clearly what they're attempting to do here. The SCOTUS needs to lock their votes in and publish the ruling ASAP or there will be nonstop rioting and intimidation until they do.
 
The court isn’t elected and answers to no one. They have no term limits and don’t have to worry about money. ‘Protesting’ them is just going to piss them off and make them choose more political cases in the future out of spite.

We’ve seen it happen before against the Executive branch with the CDC eviction bullshit.
 
Yeah, this is yet another reason why I think this is not a good idea. The end of medical privacy and mandatory medical procedures is a bad fucking thing and this act by the SCOTUS may have made that more likely. I hope not, but who the fuck knows?
Sorry to break it to you, but the later court decisions already shot this idea of "medical privacy" full of holes. Its why we had mask mandates in the first place, and why schools require proof of vaccination for students. This idea that we will lose "medical privacy" is red herring bullshit by the left. The Supreme Court itself has made it clear that the fake "right to privacy" enshrined by Roe v Wade was only for abortion and nothing else. Part of the reason Roe was bad law.


That never was a thing once the Sunday sermon was over. Young people will be young, and horny, and think they are in love and it will last forever.
Its not an impossible lifestyle to live. Plenty of people, even today, don't have sex during their young lives, even up until marriage. In Japan, for instance, many women don't lose their virginity till late college or even adulthood. Increasing numbers of women have expressed a lack of interest in sex at all.
 
This is absolutely 100 and 10 percent correct. Have a:winner:sticker on me. The Dems have no one but themselves to blame for this, they could have either passed legislation legalizing first trimester abortion; or they could have kept Roe from being overturned by forcing Ginsburg to retire back when they had a fucking super majority in congress before 2010. The Dems fucked up hard, and now Roe is dead and they have no real backup plan that I can see.
Let me expand on that a bit.
In the last decade we have seen gay marriage forced into being a societal norm despite an overwhelming majority of voters being against it (I remember prop 8 like it was yesterday). We've seen schools graduating less and less students, with lower and lower standards. We've seen abortion activists go from "safe, legal and rare" to "this should be routine, and common". We've seen the rise of transgenderism, which is a mental illness comparable to schitzophrenia. We've heard rhetoric from Democratic candidates like "They're not your children, they're ours", the kind of rhetoric that would've made Mondale lose Minnesota. We're currently enduring the highest prices for gasoline, food, rent, and housing in modern history. We've had to mask and vaccinate our children in order to enjoy travel, the purchase of food, and the ability to congregate. And now we're seeing all religion, which is an essential part of a cohesive society, being demonized for it's inability to accept the above as the new norm.

Here's the deal, a lot of people don't vote, but I'm of the persuasion that a lot of the people who hate having their simple lives interrupted by stupid, are going to figure out a way to show up at the polls like they did in 2016. The idea that Roe v Wade was ever that popular is an urban myth, and we'll find out soon how popular it really was.
 
Sorry to break it to you, but the later court decisions already shot this idea of "medical privacy" full of holes. Its why we had mask mandates in the first place, and why schools require proof of vaccination for students. This idea that we will lose "medical privacy" is red herring bullshit by the left. The Supreme Court itself has made it clear that the fake "right to privacy" enshrined by Roe v Wade was only for abortion and nothing else. Part of the reason Roe was bad law.



Its not an impossible lifestyle to live. Plenty of people, even today, don't have sex during their young lives, even up until marriage. In Japan, for instance, many women don't lose their virginity till late college or even adulthood. Increasing numbers of women have expressed a lack of interest in sex at all.
Firstly, thanks for the information about the medical privacy part. Now, I know you're not responding to me here with the second part of your post; but I really have to say that I don't think we should be emulating Japan's attitude to sex and relationships, it's a one-way ticket to a massively lower birth rate and all the problems that causes.

Furthermore, and in general abstinence from sexual activity for unmarried persons may not be impossible in a literal sense, but anyone who has the opportunity to fuck is going to do so more often than not. Pretending otherwise is foolhardy.

I also really don't think we need more incels of either the male or female variety; nor do I think we need more voluntarily celibate people either. People who don't get laid tend to be weirdos prone to fucked up behavior.
 
Let me expand on that a bit.
In the last decade we have seen gay marriage forced into being a societal norm despite an overwhelming majority of voters being against it (I remember prop 8 like it was yesterday). We've seen schools graduating less and less students, with lower and lower standards. We've seen abortion activists go from "safe, legal and rare" to "this should be routine, and common". We've seen the rise of transgenderism, which is a mental illness comparable to schitzophrenia. We've heard rhetoric from Democratic candidates like "They're not your children, they're ours", the kind of rhetoric that would've made Mondale lose Minnesota. We're currently enduring the highest prices for gasoline, food, rent, and housing in modern history. We've had to mask and vaccinate our children in order to enjoy travel, the purchase of food, and the ability to congregate. And now we're seeing all religion, which is an essential part of a cohesive society, being demonized for it's inability to accept the above as the new norm.

Here's the deal, a lot of people don't vote, but I'm of the persuasion that a lot of the people who hate having their simple lives interrupted by stupid, are going to figure out a way to show up at the polls like they did in 2016. The idea that Roe v Wade was ever that popular is an urban myth, and we'll find out soon how popular it really was.
And again, to all those saying "this will blow the midterms!":

All of the aforementioned has been allowed to fester because conservatives have been too timid to conserve anything (other than Israel and Big Business). The last thing the Right needs right now is to worry about upsetting people who already hate their guts and A-log them over everything conceivable under the yellow sun.

No more token defense. "This'll blow the midterms" is just another way of saying "muh Real Conservative™️ principullz!"

Shitlibs are running scared now that the Right is going on the offensive. That momentum cannot falter.
 
This is absolutely 100 and 10 percent correct. Have a:winner:sticker on me. The Dems have no one but themselves to blame for this, they could have either passed legislation legalizing first trimester abortion; or they could have kept Roe from being overturned by forcing Ginsburg to retire back when they had a fucking super majority in congress before 2010. The Dems fucked up hard, and now Roe is dead and they have no real backup plan that I can see.
Tbf, passing legislation in Congress wouldn't have been any guarantee of anything; a Supreme Court that was sufficiently anti-abortion would still have found a way to overturn it. The only way to truly guarantee access to abortion would have been via a constitutional amendment, and neither party has been in a position to pass one since Roe v. Wade became a thing.
 
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