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The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.
The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” he writes in the document, labeled as the “Opinion of the Court.” “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”


Deliberations on controversial cases have in the past been fluid. Justices can and sometimes do change their votes as draft opinions circulate and major decisions can be subject to multiple drafts and vote-trading, sometimes until just days before a decision is unveiled. The court’s holding will not be final until it is published, likely in the next two months.
The immediate impact of the ruling as drafted in February would be to end a half-century guarantee of federal constitutional protection of abortion rights and allow each state to decide whether to restrict or ban abortion. It’s unclear if there have been subsequent changes to the draft.
No draft decision in the modern history of the court has been disclosed publicly while a case was still pending. The unprecedented revelation is bound to intensify the debate over what was already the most controversial case on the docket this term.
The draft opinion offers an extraordinary window into the justices’ deliberations in one of the most consequential cases before the court in the last five decades. Some court-watchers predicted that the conservative majority would slice away at abortion rights without flatly overturning a 49-year-old precedent. The draft shows that the court is looking to reject Roe’s logic and legal protections.
Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division.”
Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion
A person familiar with the court’s deliberations said that four of the other Republican-appointed justices – Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett – had voted with Alito in the conference held among the justices after hearing oral arguments in December, and that line-up remains unchanged as of this week.


The three Democratic-appointed justices – Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan – are working on one or more dissents, according to the person. How Chief Justice John Roberts will ultimately vote, and whether he will join an already written opinion or draft his own, is unclear.
The document, labeled as a first draft of the majority opinion, includes a notation that it was circulated among the justices on Feb. 10. If the Alito draft is adopted, it would rule in favor of Mississippi in the closely watched case over that state’s attempt to ban most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy.
A Supreme Court spokesperson declined to comment or make another representative of the court available to answer questions about the draft document.
POLITICO received a copy of the draft opinion from a person familiar with the court’s proceedings in the Mississippi case along with other details supporting the authenticity of the document. The draft opinion runs 98 pages, including a 31-page appendix of historical state abortion laws. The document is replete with citations to previous court decisions, books and other authorities, and includes 118 footnotes. The appearances and timing of this draft are consistent with court practice.
The disclosure of Alito’s draft majority opinion – a rare breach of Supreme Court secrecy and tradition around its deliberations – comes as all sides in the abortion debate are girding for the ruling. Speculation about the looming decision has been intense since the December oral arguments indicated a majority was inclined to support the Mississippi law.
Under longstanding court procedures, justices hold preliminary votes on cases shortly after argument and assign a member of the majority to write a draft of the court’s opinion. The draft is often amended in consultation with other justices, and in some cases the justices change their votes altogether, creating the possibility that the current alignment on Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization could change.
The chief justice typically assigns majority opinions when he is in the majority. When he is not, that decision is typically made by the most senior justice in the majority.

‘Exceptionally weak’​

A George W. Bush appointee who joined the court in 2006, Alito argues that the 1973 abortion rights ruling was an ill-conceived and deeply flawed decision that invented a right mentioned nowhere in the Constitution and unwisely sought to wrench the contentious issue away from the political branches of government.
Alito’s draft ruling would overturn a decision by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals that found the Mississippi law ran afoul of Supreme Court precedent by seeking to effectively ban abortions before viability.

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Roe’s “survey of history ranged from the constitutionally irrelevant to the plainly incorrect,” Alito continues, adding that its reasoning was “exceptionally weak,” and that the original decision has had “damaging consequences.”
“The inescapable conclusion is that a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the Nation’s history and traditions,” Alito writes.
Alito approvingly quotes a broad range of critics of the Roe decision. He also points to liberal icons such as the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe, who at certain points in their careers took issue with the reasoning in Roe or its impact on the political process.
Alito’s skewering of Roe and the endorsement of at least four other justices for that unsparing critique is also a measure of the court’s rightward turn in recent decades. Roe was decided 7-2 in 1973, with five Republican appointees joining two justices nominated by Democratic presidents.
The overturning of Roe would almost immediately lead to stricter limits on abortion access in large swaths of the South and Midwest, with about half of the states set to immediately impose broad abortion bans. Any state could still legally allow the procedure.
“The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion,” the draft concludes. “Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”
The draft contains the type of caustic rhetorical flourishes Alito is known for and that has caused Roberts, his fellow Bush appointee, some discomfort in the past.
At times, Alito’s draft opinion takes an almost mocking tone as it skewers the majority opinion in Roe, written by Justice Harry Blackmun, a Richard Nixon appointee who died in 1999.
Roe expressed the ‘feel[ing]’ that the Fourteenth Amendment was the provision that did the work, but its message seemed to be that the abortion right could be found somewhere in the Constitution and that specifying its exact location was not of paramount importance,” Alito writes.
Alito declares that one of the central tenets of Roe, the “viability” distinction between fetuses not capable of living outside the womb and those which can, “makes no sense.”
In several passages, he describes doctors and nurses who terminate pregnancies as “abortionists.”
When Roberts voted with liberal jurists in 2020 to block a Louisiana law imposing heavier regulations on abortion clinics, his solo concurrence used the more neutral term “abortion providers.” In contrast, Justice Clarence Thomas used the word “abortionist” 25 times in a solo dissent in the same case.


Alito’s use of the phrase “egregiously wrong” to describe Roe echoes language Mississippi Solicitor General Scott Stewart used in December in defending his state’s ban on abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. The phrase was also contained in an opinion Kavanaugh wrote as part of a 2020 ruling that jury convictions in criminal cases must be unanimous.
In that opinion, Kavanaugh labeled two well-known Supreme Court decisions “egregiously wrong when decided”: the 1944 ruling upholding the detention of Japanese Americans during World War II, Korematsu v. United States, and the 1896 decision that blessed racial segregation under the rubric of “separate but equal,” Plessy v. Ferguson.
The high court has never formally overturned Korematsu, but did repudiate the decision in a 2018 ruling by Roberts that upheld then-President Donald Trump’s travel ban policy.

The legacy of Plessy v. Ferguson​

Plessy remained the law of the land for nearly six decades until the court overturned it with the Brown v. Board of Education school desegregation ruling in 1954.
Quoting Kavanaugh, Alito writes of Plessy: “It was ‘egregiously wrong,’ on the day it was decided.”
Alito’s draft opinion includes, in small type, a list of about two pages’ worth of decisions in which the justices overruled prior precedents – in many instances reaching results praised by liberals.
The implication that allowing states to outlaw abortion is on par with ending legal racial segregation has been hotly disputed. But the comparison underscores the conservative justices’ belief that Roe is so flawed that the justices should disregard their usual hesitations about overturning precedent and wholeheartedly renounce it.
Alito’s draft opinion ventures even further into this racially sensitive territory by observing in a footnote that some early proponents of abortion rights also had unsavory views in favor of eugenics.
“Some such supporters have been motivated by a desire to suppress the size of the African American population,” Alito writes. “It is beyond dispute that Roe has had that demographic effect. A highly disproportionate percentage of aborted fetuses are black.”
Alito writes that by raising the point he isn’t casting aspersions on anyone. “For our part, we do not question the motives of either those who have supported and those who have opposed laws restricting abortion,” he writes.
Alito also addresses concern about the impact the decision could have on public discourse. “We cannot allow our decisions to be affected by any extraneous influences such as concern about the public’s reaction to our work,” Alito writes. “We do not pretend to know how our political system or society will respond to today’s decision overruling Roe and Casey. And even if we could foresee what will happen, we would have no authority to let that knowledge influence our decision.”


In the main opinion in the 1992 Casey decision, Justices Sandra Day O’Connor, Anthony Kennedy and Davis Souter warned that the court would pay a “terrible price” for overruling Roe, despite criticism of the decision from some in the public and the legal community.
“While it has engendered disapproval, it has not been unworkable,” the three justices wrote then. “An entire generation has come of age free to assume Roe‘s concept of liberty in defining the capacity of women to act in society, and to make reproductive decisions; no erosion of principle going to liberty or personal autonomy has left Roe‘s central holding a doctrinal remnant.”
When Dobbs was argued in December, Roberts seemed out of sync with the other conservative justices, as he has been in a number of cases including one challenging the Affordable Care Act.
At the argument session last fall, Roberts seemed to be searching for a way to uphold Mississippi’s 15-week ban without completely abandoning the Roe framework.
“Viability, it seems to me, doesn’t have anything to do with choice. But, if it really is an issue about choice, why is 15 weeks not enough time?” Roberts asked during the arguments. “The thing that is at issue before us today is 15 weeks.”

Nods to conservative colleagues​

While Alito’s draft opinion doesn’t cater much to Roberts’ views, portions of it seem intended to address the specific interests of other justices. One passage argues that social attitudes toward out-of-wedlock pregnancies “have changed drastically” since the 1970s and that increased demand for adoption makes abortion less necessary.
Those points dovetail with issues that Barrett – a Trump appointee and the court’s newest member – raised at the December arguments. She suggested laws allowing people to surrender newborn babies on a no-questions-asked basis mean carrying a pregnancy to term doesn’t oblige one to engage in child rearing.
“Why don’t the safe haven laws take care of that problem?” asked Barrett, who adopted two of her seven children.
Much of Alito’s draft is devoted to arguing that widespread criminalization of abortion during the 19th and early 20th century belies the notion that a right to abortion is implied in the Constitution.
The conservative justice attached to his draft a 31-page appendix listing laws passed to criminalize abortion during that period. Alito claims “an unbroken tradition of prohibiting abortion on pain of criminal punishment…from the earliest days of the common law until 1973.”


“Until the latter part of the 20th century, there was no support in American law for a constitutional right to obtain an abortion. Zero. None. No state constitutional provision had recognized such a right,” Alito adds.
Alito’s draft argues that rights protected by the Constitution but not explicitly mentioned in it – so-called unenumerated rights – must be strongly rooted in U.S. history and tradition. That form of analysis seems at odds with several of the court’s recent decisions, including many of its rulings backing gay rights.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled. The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision....”
Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion
Liberal justices seem likely to take issue with Alito’s assertion in the draft opinion that overturning Roe would not jeopardize other rights the courts have grounded in privacy, such as the right to contraception, to engage in private consensual sexual activity and to marry someone of the same sex.
“We emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” Alito writes. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”
Alito’s draft opinion rejects the idea that abortion bans reflect the subjugation of women in American society. “Women are not without electoral or political power,” he writes. “The percentage of women who register to vote and cast ballots is consistently higher than the percentage of men who do so.”
The Supreme Court remains one of Washington’s most secretive institutions, priding itself on protecting the confidentiality of its internal deliberations.
“At the Supreme Court, those who know don’t talk, and those who talk don’t know,” Ginsburg was fond of saying.
That tight-lipped reputation has eroded somewhat in recent decades due to a series of books by law clerks, law professors and investigative journalists. Some of these authors clearly had access to draft opinions such as the one obtained by POLITICO, but their books emerged well after the cases in question were resolved.
The justices held their final arguments of the current term on Wednesday. The court has set a series of sessions over the next two months to release rulings in its still-unresolved cases, including the Mississippi abortion case.
 
I don't really care about abortion either way, I just think conservatives are built-in political losers and them scoring a big culture war win is suspicious as fuck. This clearing a legal path for some diabolical shit is a way more believable thing.
Problem is most of the GOP is interested in appealing to big business interests and the rich the same as the Dems, so most of their attempts at winning in the culture war is kayfabe. The SCOTUS is a strange beast though since they don't have to ever worry about donors, so once they're on the court the most you have to worry about is their egos like with RBG who was so dead set on staying on she avoided leaving under Obama when they could have replaced her, which resulted in the Dems having to blow smoke up her ass about how strong and healthy she was to avoid her retiring under Republican rule.

What's happening now is probably just an attempt to guilt the right wing justices or Roberts into protecting Roe. It doesn't seem like it'd work as they've been pretty vicious over the years to the right wing justices like Clarence Thomas and accusing Bret of being a gang rapist, so there's not much reason to believe they'd cuck out like Roberts on this who seemed to want to fancy himself an eternal fence sitter.

The left has depended way too heavily on getting their major wins in the courts rather than through legislation and this is just one of those rare occasions where things likely won't go their way.
 
imagine being willing and ready to catch bullets because women too dumb to pop a pill/wear a condom/ get the man penetrating them to wear a condom/not have sex can't just move to a state that'll be happy to fund the euthanisation of their child clump of cells
They would be headshot into oblivion
 
Birth control both pills and other methods are widely available, dirt cheap, and almost 100% effective if used properly.

Roe v Wade is a relic from the 70s when birth control tech was primitive and vaccume abortions were the only way to terminate a pregnancy.
 
This news is the last warning for sexually active women in the relevant states to get their new IUDs in, get sterilised if they are inclined to do so, and stockpile relevant medication before some or all of these things become potentially illegal and difficult to obtain.

I notice many women who say they will be directly affected by this are screaming on Twitter instead and talking about online petitions and protests.

That is some lame ineffectual bullshit. No one is going to handle your problem of your ovaries but yourself, ever. I knew slacktivism and tranny bullshit had gutted American feminism, but the total lack of on the ground organisation in response to this news is gobsmacking. The fourth wave feminist is so well trained in the docility and futility of screaming on the internet that practical organisation seems to be beyond them.

If this is potentially going to be your problem, get off your ass today and start making phone calls to get something done about controlling your fertility. Grandpa Joe is not coming to the rescue. It will be networks of women prepared to receive visits from “old friends out of state” or to quietly ship a few pills inside a soft toy that will ensure that women can still access abortion. The provision of abortion has been underground woman’s work since earliest recorded history. It will become so again, because the Democratic administration has no backup plan once this ruling is handed down.

The time for practical organisation is now, whilst it’s still largely possible, not later, once it’s not. Shitting oneself on Twitter and doing nothing because you’re drinking the kool aid about “but it might be a hoax! people often produce thousands of words of meticulously referenced and argued legal opinion for the lulz!” is how you are going to end up in shit creek with an unwanted pregnancy.

Social justice movements have done something fatally toxic to practical activism in rich white countries. Getting shit done is now verboten in favour of screaming the choice lexicon of the day into the void.
This is the lamest copy pastas I have ever seen.
 
This news is the last warning for sexually active women in the relevant states to get their new IUDs in, get sterilised if they are inclined to do so, and stockpile relevant medication before some or all of these things become potentially illegal and difficult to obtain.

I notice many women who say they will be directly affected by this are screaming on Twitter instead and talking about online petitions and protests.

That is some lame ineffectual bullshit. No one is going to handle your problem of your ovaries but yourself, ever. I knew slacktivism and tranny bullshit had gutted American feminism, but the total lack of on the ground organisation in response to this news is gobsmacking. The fourth wave feminist is so well trained in the docility and futility of screaming on the internet that practical organisation seems to be beyond them.

If this is potentially going to be your problem, get off your ass today and start making phone calls to get something done about controlling your fertility. Grandpa Joe is not coming to the rescue. It will be networks of women prepared to receive visits from “old friends out of state” or to quietly ship a few pills inside a soft toy that will ensure that women can still access abortion. The provision of abortion has been underground woman’s work since earliest recorded history. It will become so again, because the Democratic administration has no backup plan once this ruling is handed down.

The time for practical organisation is now, whilst it’s still largely possible, not later, once it’s not. Shitting oneself on Twitter and doing nothing because you’re drinking the kool aid about “but it might be a hoax! people often produce thousands of words of meticulously referenced and argued legal opinion for the lulz!” is how you are going to end up in shit creek with an unwanted pregnancy.

Social justice movements have done something fatally toxic to practical activism in rich white countries. Getting shit done is now verboten in favour of screaming the choice lexicon of the day into the void.
Indeed, it's time for the Underground Trail of Blood.
 
Birth control both pills and other methods are widely available, dirt cheap, and almost 100% effective if used properly.

Roe v Wade is a relic from the 70s when birth control tech was primitive and vaccume abortions were the only way to terminate a pregnancy.
And when ultrasound technology wasn't widespread.
 
The salt is good including from
Kate/imspeaking13 is fumming
"SCOTUS and the GOP are about to find out what happens when you fuck with women"

LMAO COPE AND SEETHE BITCH. The democrats puts wigs on men and turned them loose to rape you on the sports field and in the bathrooms. And what have you bitches done? Fucking nothing, nothing happens when you fuck with women. Paper tiger.
 
Lol indeed
Tim Pool is such a retard. As a matter of course, we abrogate people's "freedom" by making them responsible for their own children, and if you refuse to do so, you get charged with homicide. You have to share your paycheck, your home, your resources, your time and your energy with your children, under threat of prosecution, but all of a sudden he's going to draw the line at sharing a blood supply for 9 months? Why, exactly? There is no argument regarding "bodily autonomy" that does not also extend to all the other ways children disable your autonomy, and yet no one blinks an eye at any of that, and rightfully so--we understand that people raising children is how our civilization survives.

The fact that anyone listens to this overgrown polysci freshman annoys the shit out of me.
 
"SCOTUS and the GOP are about to find out what happens when you fuck with women"

LMAO COPE AND SEETHE BITCH. The democrats puts wigs on men and turned them loose to rape you on the sports field and in the bathrooms. And what have you bitches done? Fucking nothing, nothing happens when you fuck with women. Paper tiger.
Female ANTIFA/anarchists very rarely become violent unless there are waves of male anarchists between them and the police. If the men don't show up to shield them they won't do shit.
 
Not to be vicious; but was kinda hoping to wakeup to lunatics storming the SCOTUS building and having security have to arrest/shoot people. Come on ladies (and predators), your rights are at stake here. All this talk of violence and revolution, and you can't even get waved in to a guided tour of that building?
 
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Good thing your husband left you Katie
Thank god he got out
Tim Pool is such a retard. As a matter of course, we abrogate people's "freedom" by making them responsible for their own children, and if you refuse to do so, you get charged with homicide. You have to share your paycheck, your home, your resources, your time and your energy with your children, under threat of prosecution, but all of a sudden he's going to draw the line at sharing a blood supply for 9 months? Why, exactly? There is no argument regarding "bodily autonomy" that does not also extend to all the other ways children disable your autonomy, and yet no one blinks an eye at any of that, and rightfully so--we understand that people raising children is how our civilization survives.

The fact that anyone listens to this overgrown polysci freshman annoys the shit out of me.
probably because the people who listen to him are young people
"SCOTUS and the GOP are about to find out what happens when you fuck with women"

LMAO COPE AND SEETHE BITCH. The democrats puts wigs on men and turned them loose to rape you on the sports field and in the bathrooms. And what have you bitches done? Fucking nothing, nothing happens when you fuck with women. Paper tiger.
she should had a job a blow job under the sports bleachers
 
Wake me up once the riots actually start.

Really shake me awake once the attempted assassination of Clarence Thomas by coward Twitter leftists happens.

People only freaking out on Twitter about putting 5000 libs on the court is boring.

If we are opening a kiwi dead pool on the justices, put me down for Amy Coney Barrett via car bomb. Thomas has the sense to pay for significant additional security; he and Roberts will be hard targets.
 
Tim Pool is such a retard. As a matter of course, we abrogate people's "freedom" by making them responsible for their own children, and if you refuse to do so, you get charged with homicide. You have to share your paycheck, your home, your resources, your time and your energy with your children, under threat of prosecution, but all of a sudden he's going to draw the line at sharing a blood supply for 9 months? Why, exactly? There is no argument regarding "bodily autonomy" that does not also extend to all the other ways children disable your autonomy, and yet no one blinks an eye at any of that, and rightfully so--we understand that people raising children is how our civilization survives.

The fact that anyone listens to this overgrown polysci freshman annoys the shit out of me.
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