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Cringe. These people are the worst actors on earth (esp. Warren) and no one should believe this fake outrage.

Who gives a fuck about this? For real? The rural red states are happy and the blue coastal garbage people can still get nonstop abortions. Pretty much nothing has changed. Everyone knows this leak and shit is just a bullshit attempt by dems to get people angry enough to vote blue again without doing more race riots because that’s super unpopular now.
I don't think it's even about getting the vote out. The people who are single-issue pro-choice voters are already going to be voting b/c they need to stop the Orange Reich party from getting power. There's a gigantic overlap between them and #Resist libs.
This was a desperate attempt to drum up donations ahead of the midterms and now Planned Parenthood et al are promising to spend $150 million going into this fall. Who knows how many previously lukewarm private citizens will follow suit.
 
"The Right is making its own echo chamber"

You told us to.

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Sounds like the society of exiles is finally becoming equal to the mainstream.
From what I remember of "Subway" Jared Fogle getting busted for using his charity organization as a child sex trafficking ring, what did him in was that he was just talking about it like it was a normal thing to import SE Asian 8 year olds to shove your cock in. He was surrounded by a bubble of people so large who considered that sort of behavior as normal that he had no reservations about talking openly about it in mixed company, up until the company got a touch too mixed and someone who wasn't with the program was all "What the living fuck is this???" and he got investigated.

iirc he was setup by a friend/brother that was caught with cp. when Jared denied him any help, he spilled the beans
my pet theory is that it was the drives were planted as a failsafe
Really, because I found this doc about him.
Wait, is this literally the first SCOTUS leak ever?

There are a lot of people on Twitter, including SCOTUSblog, saying this is a huge fucking deal because of THAT, not because of RvW.
Most are saying that a leak isn’t heard of. And that everything about this is to scare the justices into keeping RvW, and getting Democrats Congress into gear and making pet projects happen while they still have the edge and advantages before midterms.
If the Pope doesn't excommunicate Joe Biden over this, then his fake ass should be given the Mussolini treatment.
Bold of you to assume that they’ll get to him.
 
free speech’ in the 21st century means something very different than it did in the 18th, when the Founders enshrined it in the Constitution. The right to say what you want without being imprisoned is not the same as the right to broadcast disinformation to millions of people on a corporate platform. This nuance seems to be lost on some techno-wizards who see any restriction as the enemy of innovation.”


I can't remember which Kiwi said they would use the founding fathers didn't have argument for free speech and sure as fuck here it is in time magazine


 
And then in a decade we find out he is a Kid Fucker and once again lose faith that we will ever leave Clown World.
The pope? I'd be surprised if he's not one, especially give his history.

My problem is that all these people, chaffing out bullshit about every vaguely esoteric-looking symbol without any context, only make it harder to prove when the time comes, because everyone will take one look at that schizo shit and be able to dismiss the reality along with it.
 
It is a perpetual promise drum they can beat. If they pass it, they can't keep using it election cycle over election cycle.

You are confused, politicians don't do anything in the best interest of their constituents. Sometimes something positive sticks, but those bills are always a monkey paw of other shit they ram rod through that don't outweigh the perk to the population.
Very true. I suppose if I were in Dem leadership's shoes, I would be looking at finally throwing one of the very few 'long-term plan' cards remaining in our hands for a short-term boost of popularity numbers. And then I would cleanse the streets of the Capitol with blood and fire, but I digress. They're scrambling for political capital right now and this could be a lifeline. Plus in the long-term they can trot out "wrongfully" committed felon nignogs to shout about how they were given a life sentence for one *handclap* single *handclap* joint and 12 armed robberies therefore the system is totally racist. Idk it just seems to me from where I'm sitting that it's a plan with very few downsides for the ruling party, but I'm not a politician so I guess I can't figure out the reasoning and strategies of the clowns running this circus.
 
Specifically world youth day 2019, held in Panama. His vestments were designed to include references to local art and culture, particularly molas, which are a native panamanian art style. Triangles are notably common within the style, representing protection by family, while labyrinths symbolise protection against the influence of evil spirits. The connection with paedo shit is spurious at best.
He’s the Pope. Head of the Catholic Church. Kind of comes with the territory.
The pope? I'd be surprised if he's not one, especially give his history.

My problem is that all these people, chaffing out bullshit about every vaguely esoteric-looking symbol without any context, only make it harder to prove when the time comes, because everyone will take one look at that schizo shit and be able to dismiss the reality along with it.
I mean, isn’t that what killed the talk of Pizzagate, Epstein, Maxwell, and Hollywood in general?
 
Cringe. These people are the worst actors on earth (esp. Warren) and no one should believe this fake outrage.

Who gives a fuck about this? For real? The rural red states are happy and the blue coastal garbage people can still get nonstop abortions. Pretty much nothing has changed. Everyone knows this leak and shit is just a bullshit attempt by dems to get people angry enough to vote blue again without doing more race riots because that’s super unpopular now.
It's not good enough that the left gets to choose leftist policies. The left MUST choose leftist policies for the right, too. It's a fundamental structural belief for them. You do not have the right to decide how to live your life if you decide to live it in a way they don't approve of. They know better than you.+
 
I am glad to see Roe v Wade eat shit. Putting aside the moral issues of Abortion (for which I am glad to see it go).

The end of Roe v Wade will put in a new significant deterrent for leftist migration into red States. This is a key factor in the containment of the blue cancer.

It also has a massive chilling effect on one of the most confirming actions a woman can take to insure they remain a committed Democrat. What I mean is that once a woman gets an abortion, they rarely if ever flip sides. Married women trend very slightly right. Married women with children trend moderately right. But either of those women, if they have had an abortion, trend hard left.

Abortion in the US is the baptism into leftism for women.
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Now if we could just get rid of welfare and end no-fault divorce.
 

Democrats skeptical SCOTUS will save them in November​

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One Democratic pollster said the issue “will help at the margins,” but to retain control of Congress “we need inflation to go away.”

The day after Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died, Democratic donors poured more than $30 million into Democratic campaigns and groups through ActBlue, shattering its own one-day fundraising records.

In the 23 hours after POLITICO reported a draft Supreme Court opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade, ActBlue took in just $9 million — just a small uptick from the days prior.

The modest totals this week, based on a POLITICO analysis of the ActBlue donation tracker, are an early sign that Democrats can’t count on abortion to single-handedly turn around a midterm cycle that’s already trending badly for them. Interviews with more than a dozen Democratic pollsters and strategists Tuesday detailed a scramble within the party to parse how the seismic disclosure might affect base enthusiasm and reshape messaging ahead of the midterms — now that a theoretical threat has become real.

There is broad consensus that a ruling overturning Roe would help Democrats in some districts, potentially reducing their losses by drawing in suburban women who backed them in 2018. But few believe it would be enough to offset the brutal midterm environment and President Joe Biden’s sagging approval ratings.

One Democratic pollster, granted anonymity to discuss the issue candidly, acknowledged that the issue “will help at the margins,” but “to hold the House or Senate, we need inflation to go away.”

It’s also opening up a debate within the party about how much to lean into abortion as an animating message for the base, rather than focusing primarily on cost of living and job growth.

“Midterm voters care about affordability first and foremost, and they are not people who are worried every single day about losing access to abortion,” said Julie Roginsky, a Democratic strategist who began her career as a researcher at the abortion rights group EMILY’s List. “My fear continues to be that sometimes we as Democrats run on things that we wish the voters cared about, rather than what the voters do care about.”

“Is this something they lose sleep over every night?” she added. “No. What they do lose sleep over is, ‘I can’t fill up my gas tank, it’s really expensive. I can’t afford to send my kid to college, it’s really expensive.’ … Any voter who will vote purely based on [Roe] is an incredibly committed voter who will be coming out in the midterms, anyway.”

Rep. Susan Wild (D-Pa.), who represents a battleground district, argued Democrats can both run on restoring abortion rights and address concerns about inflation. “Nobody should be thinking to themselves, ‘Well, I can take a pass on these other issues, now that we have this one,’” she said. “If we can’t multitask, then we don’t belong in these jobs.”

“When I make decisions on what 30-second ad I’m going to run, it’s ... determined by what is front of mind and center for voters,” said Rep. Susie Lee (D-Nev.), who represents a suburban Las Vegas House seat. “Especially in a state like Nevada where, 2-1, we voted to ensure a woman has a right to choose, this is going to be a motivating issue for voters.”

Polling on abortion is undoubtedly on Democrats’ side. Surveys of Americans routinely find overwhelming support for abortion rights: A POLITICO/Morning Consult poll conducted Tuesday after news of the draft opinion showed just 28 percent of voters want the court to overturn Roe, versus 50 percent who think the precedent should stand.

But several Democratic pollsters and strategists noted that the party is still flying blind about what the reaction might be among voters. That’s because private polling showed they were skeptical that the Supreme Court would actually take this step. One pollster described how Democratic candidates would ask to “test for this scenario,” but “you can’t test for it until it happens,” the person said.

Jessica Floyd, president of American Bridge, a super PAC focused on activating female voters, said the group’s research in December found that a majority of voters supported Roe v. Wade. And they didn’t believe the Supreme Court would overrule it.

“What’s changed is that Republicans went through with their long-standing plans, which voters thought were protected,” she said. “The sound you’re hearing is a million phones ringing, as every group is digging into what this means because everything’s now changed.”

One problem for Democrats seeking to capitalize on the potential demise of Roe is that so much of the party’s base resides in heavily Democratic states where abortion is protected — and where Democrats were already moving to enact more stringent protections.

In California, Gov. Gavin Newsom and state legislative leaders announced they were proposing a state constitutional amendment to enshrine abortion rights. But that’s California.

In more competitive states, recent history suggests voter intensity around the Supreme Court may do little for Democrats. In last year’s gubernatorial election in Virginia, Democrat Terry McAuliffe focused heavily on abortion, after the Supreme Court allowed a Texas law banning abortion after six weeks of pregnancy to take effect.

But his prediction that abortion would be a “huge motivator for individuals to come out and vote” fell flat. Among the small proportion of voters who listed abortion as their most important issue, a majority voted for the Republican, Glenn Youngkin, according to exit polls.

Several Democrats warned that it may take some time for the implications of the draft opinion to hit voters, but “once everyone knows this … is real and understands the ramifications of it, then it will drive mobilization,” said Stephanie Schriock, the former president of EMILY’s List. “Folks are still digesting this, and it’s not clear what it means for them … our side is going to have to put it up on TV, direct mail, on radio and on digital ads.”

Indeed, EMILY’s List, POLITICO first reportedthis week, Planned Parenthood and NARAL plan to jointly spend $150 million on the midterms in several competitive states.

The fury over Roe may turn out Democratic-leaning voters, giving the party a path to addressing its “enthusiasm gap” problem, which has plagued them in recent months. David Axelrod, the former adviser to Barack Obama, pointed to a finding in a January CNN poll that 58 percent of Democrats under 45 would be angry about the court overturning Roe.

“If they act on that anger by voting, it could make a difference in some close races,” Axelrod said in an email, calling the political dynamics surrounding the draft opinion “uncharted waters.”

Democrats are taking the Republican Party’s reaction to the disclosure — in which the GOP is focusing primarily on the disclosure of the draft opinion, not the substance — as an indication that Republicans are fearful of a backlash. One Democrat working on races in the Southwest said Republicans “know it’s a political killer for them,” and that “in a morbid way, it’s the first ray of sunshine this cycle.”

“I’m pretty sure this is not the outcome [Senate Minority Leader Mitch] McConnelland [House Minority Leader Kevin] McCarthywere hoping for,” Axelrod said.

But there is also a fear among Democrats that putting Roe on the ballot could motivate Republicans as much as Democrats in November, and potentially cut into the party’s support among socially conservative Latinos.

The disclosure of the draft opinion also changed the timing of the Roe debate, potentially with negative consequences for Democrats. Even before the draft was reported, Democrats bullish on the political effects of Roe being overturned feared a June release of the decision might come too soon to help them in November. The disclosure pushed the Democratic outrage earlier in the calendar, with six months before the elections.

One Democratic strategist said Tuesday that it’s possible a court ruling against Roe will “light a fire under” their voters; Democrats “haven’t seen abortion as a working message for quite some time.”

The strategist added: “I just don’t see how this isn’t a bloodbath for Dems.”
I find it interesting that Dem politicians apparently didn’t think Roe being overturned was a real risk. They told their pollsters to do some work on that but only as a “just in case” thing.
 
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