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Ah, I see you have one of those editors on watch. Keep an eye out on this category to see if anyone else "identifies" as such.
Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging
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But they will be born.
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I'm sure her children hearing their mother talk about her vagina and their conception as such a burden won't cause any issues at all.
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Anyone who has studied constitutional law with any level of seriousness knew it was a dubious precedent, despite having been affirmed and re-affirmed, at least on paper, while chiseling away at the specific protections it offered.
Personally, I believe it should be a basic matter of personal autonomy that medical choices are between you and a doctor, period, and anyone else can really butt the fuck out. That's why I don't really like the anti-trans bills because they don't seem to acknowledge that, for instance, sometimes, it actually is appropriate to prescribe something like Lupron for an actual medical condition. Legislators who largely don't know shit about medicine are drafting sloppy language that doesn't do what they think it does.
This is hardly unique to medical issues. Look at the absolute nonsense that happens when legislators draft laws about guns. You end up with hundreds of pages of absolutely useless legislative language that means the wrong thing, focuses autistically on some cosmetic feature of a firearm that makes absolutely zero difference to its dangerousness, or worse, literally makes no sense at all and could be interpreted as just outlawing all guns (what many of the drafters actually want).
In any event, though, when analyzing things from a constitutional perspective, my beliefs about what a fundamental right is and what the Constitution actually protects are two different things.
If it's just "penumbras" and "emanations" (thank you for that brilliantly useful language Douglas you lazy cocksucker), then it just means anything, right?
If I would place the right anywhere, it would be squarely within the Ninth Amendment and the general right of the people to be left the fuck alone by government shit-eaters. For more on that general concept, consider reading some of Randy Barnett's thoughts on the Ninth Amendment, among which "It Means What It Says" is a nice primer.
The Ninth Amendment was included because those opposed to including a Bill of Rights in the Constitution feared that by enumerating them, it would limit them and inadvertently take rights away, which is exactly what has happened, because courts generally demand you point to a specific place in the Constitution and if it hasn't granted exactly that right, it's like Communist China where everything not mandatory is forbidden.
Unfortunately, the Ninth Amendment has been essentially a dead letter, having been all but written out of the Constitution.
Any time I see some stupid fucker say this, my first thought is YOU can be replaced, and that I'd like to take all their shit and just laugh at them and say lmao you can just replace it. It is impossible to express the depth of my loathing of shit humans like this.
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They wouldn't be there had their mothers had an abortion and they'll "RRRrrreee" more when they'll read that article.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/05/yes_abortion_is_infanticide.html
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That number is also seriously inflated for us and downgraded for the other "First World" nations.
Some of them don't count it as infant mortality if the baby lives for less than a few hours or even days.
This one goes into the fact that 60% of our infant mortality rate is in children that survive less than 28 days. Now, if you know the massive amount of effort Americans go to keep babies alive, you'll start to see where things push the numbers up when you add in poor prenatal care, poor diet, and drug/alcohol abuse.
A baby that is found in a trashcan and dies of exposure is added to those numbers also.
So are infacides.
But, here's a good article.
What do we know about infant mortality in the U.S. and comparable countries? - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker
Infant mortality (the death of an infant within the first year of life) is a widely-reported indicator of population health. This chart collection highlights key infant mortality trends and demographic variation within the United States and also explores infant mortality rates in the U.S...
www.healthsystemtracker.org
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I bet Kate (and these others) wouldn't like it if I tweeted at them "told ya so" if the leaked draft turns out to be just that and has nothing to do with the eventual majority opinion.
Not that I would do that kind of DOXXING and VIOLENCE to anyone on Twitter.
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Some copypasta on Facebook.
I'm not pro-murdering babies.
I'm pro-Becky who found out at her 20 week anatomy scan that the infant she had been so excited to bring into this world had developed without life sustaining organs.
I'm pro-Susan who was sexually assaulted on her way home from work, only to come to the horrific realization that her assailant planted his seed in her when she got a positive pregnancy test result a month later.
I'm pro-Theresa who hemorrhaged due to a placental abruption, causing her parents, spouse, and children to have to make the impossible decision on whether to save her or her unborn child.
I'm pro-little Cathy who had her innocence ripped away from her by someone she should have been able to trust and her 11 year old body isn't mature enough to bear the consequence of that betrayal.
I'm pro-Melissa who's working two jobs just to make ends meet and has to choose between bringing another child into poverty or feeding the children she already has because her spouse walked out on her.
I'm pro-Brittany who realizes that she is in no way financially, emotionally, or physically able to raise a child.
I'm pro-Emily who went through IVF, ending up with SIX viable implanted eggs requiring selective reduction in order to ensure the safety of her and a SAFE amount of fetuses.
I'm pro-Christina who doesn't want to be a mother, but birth control methods sometimes fail.
I'm pro-Jessica who is FINALLY getting the strength to get away from her physically abusive spouse only to find out that she is carrying the monster's child.
I'm pro-Vanessa who went into her confirmation appointment after YEARS of trying to conceive only to hear silence where there should be a heartbeat.
I'm pro-Lindsay who lost her virginity in her sophomore year with a broken condom and now has to choose whether to be a teenage mom or just a teenager.
I'm pro-Courtney who just found out she's already 13 weeks along, but the egg never made it out of her fallopian tube so either she terminates the pregnancy or risks dying from internal bleeding.
I am pro-Tina, who is homeless, skill less, and eating out of dumpsters while she looks for a way to keep her clump of developing cells to ever become a human life.
You can argue and say that I'm pro-choice all you want, but the truth is:
I'm pro-life.
Their lives.
Women's lives.
You don't get to pick and choose which scenarios should be accepted.
Women's rights are meant to protect ALL women, regardless of their situation!
#roevwade #prochoice #abortion #women #womensrights #mybody #mychoice #mybodymychoice
Then I found this on Twitter
I'm not pro-murdering babies.
I'm pro-Becky who found out at her 20 week anatomy scan that the infant she had been so excited to bring into this world had developed without life sustaining organs.
I'm pro-Susan who was sexually assaulted on her way home from work, only to come to the horrific realization that her assailant planted his seed in her when she got a positive pregnancy test result a month later.
I'm pro-Theresa who hemorrhaged due to a placental abruption, causing her parents, spouse, and children to have to make the impossible decision on whether to save her or her unborn child.
I'm pro-little Cathy who had her innocence ripped away from her by someone she should have been able to trust and her 11 year old body isn't mature enough to bear the consequence of that betrayal.
I'm pro-Melissa who's working two jobs just to make ends meet and has to choose between bringing another child into poverty or feeding the children she already has because her spouse walked out on her.
I'm pro-Brittany who realizes that she is in no way financially, emotionally, or physically able to raise a child.
I'm pro-Emily who went through IVF, ending up with SIX viable implanted eggs requiring selective reduction in order to ensure the safety of her and a SAFE amount of fetuses.
I'm pro-Christina who doesn't want to be a mother, but birth control methods sometimes fail.
I'm pro-Jessica who is FINALLY getting the strength to get away from her physically abusive spouse only to find out that she is carrying the monster's child.
I'm pro-Vanessa who went into her confirmation appointment after YEARS of trying to conceive only to hear silence where there should be a heartbeat.
I'm pro-Lindsay who lost her virginity in her sophomore year with a broken condom and now has to choose whether to be a teenage mom or just a teenager.
I'm pro-Courtney who just found out she's already 13 weeks along, but the egg never made it out of her fallopian tube so either she terminates the pregnancy or risks dying from internal bleeding.
I am pro-Tina, who is homeless, skill less, and eating out of dumpsters while she looks for a way to keep her clump of developing cells to ever become a human life.
You can argue and say that I'm pro-choice all you want, but the truth is:
I'm pro-life.
Their lives.
Women's lives.
You don't get to pick and choose which scenarios should be accepted.
Women's rights are meant to protect ALL women, regardless of their situation!
#roevwade #prochoice #abortion #women #womensrights #mybody #mychoice #mybodymychoice
Then I found this on Twitter
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I've never seen an abortion restriction law that would involve any of these cases. They always have an exception for the mother's health (I'm not sure you actually could successfully criminalize otherwise) and I couldn't see a situation where even a misreading of a poorly drafted laws leads to someone getting charged for removing an already dead fetus.
I don't know why people make their own bad arguments worse. Well, okay, I know why they do. I just mean why they think they're improving them by throwing in everything they can think of as if it will be the GOTCHA tipping point.
Maybe the argument is that without abortion being unrestricted in any way (which is currently the law nowhere) doctors will ignore their oath and ethics to leave these women to die?
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That's 12 very extreme hypothetical situations out of the 600,000 abortions that happen in the US. I am pretty sure that even the most extreme anti-abortion proponents will agree that abortion is a legitimate medical option for half of these because the mother's life is in danger.
It's also funny how they never talk about some of the more common reasons for getting an abortion. Here are a few they should add:
I'm pro-Lucy who was pressured by her boyfriend to get an abortion even though she wanted to keep it.
I'm pro-Stacy who got an abortion because she got pregnant in an affair and didn't want her SO to find out.
I'm pro-Becky who is the town's bicycle that lets strangers ride bareback.
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lmao
Thought she'd be fatter for a man obsessed "lesbian", she's on the right in the photo with her partner and a dog:
Bad teeth:
Here's her shitty Institute: https://www.malesupremacism.org/
Very fun sounding book that's probably not at all a bore repeating endlessly in outrage:
Amber the Hedgehog
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Actually many laws that are very iffy about what counts as danger for the mother. Pretty much all laws make exception when the mothers life is in danger but many don't allow abortion just for her health. Sometimes this goes as far as laws requiring immediate danger of death and so prevent timely action even though the eventual danger is clear or the baby isn't going to live. There are even some that are confusing like, you aren't allowed to abort in case of out uterus pregnancy but are allowed to remove the fallopian tube with a fetus becouse technically you aren't killing an unborn, just having surgery to remove miss functioning bodypart that has some unfortunate consequences. Never mind that that pregnancy is unviable, surgery is more dangerous than abortion and this will fuck up fertility unnecessarily.
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Read G. E. M. Anscombe and the Doctrine of Double Effect (which explains why some cases of abortions are justified while most are not) instead. For the pro-choice side, read Philipa Foot, who argues purely from Normative Ethics without the fashionable "patriarchy hates women" agitprop. Peter Singer is more radically pro-choice, although still argues within a Utilitarian framework -- though I suspect, because Singer is not a uterus-haver, "philosophers" like Kate Manne who worship "standpoint epistemology" will simply find his argument inadmissible.
Kate Manne is a buddy of Rhys McKinnon and is an incompetent editor, holding up an anthology of Philosophy paper for at least 2 years after it was due to be published.
Allowing a pregnancy to proceed to term, even in healthy cases, ALWAYS puts the woman at greater risk, and does her body greater harm, than a professional-supervised abortion. Hence the medical proviso for abortion, unless carefully formulated, is no more than a rubber stamp.
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They're citing maternal mortality, not infant mortality. Two entirely different things.That number is also seriously inflated for us and downgraded for the other "First World" nations.
Some of them don't count it as infant mortality if the baby lives for less than a few hours or even days.
This one goes into the fact that 60% of our infant mortality rate is in children that survive less than 28 days. Now, if you know the massive amount of effort Americans go to keep babies alive, you'll start to see where things push the numbers up when you add in poor prenatal care, poor diet, and drug/alcohol abuse.
A baby that is found in a trashcan and dies of exposure is added to those numbers also.
So are infacides.
But, here's a good article.
What do we know about infant mortality in the U.S. and comparable countries? - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker
Infant mortality (the death of an infant within the first year of life) is a widely-reported indicator of population health. This chart collection highlights key infant mortality trends and demographic variation within the United States and also explores infant mortality rates in the U.S...
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Reminder: those same people demand us to conform to their societal standards and their worldview, 10 years ago that would be unimaginable
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Has anyone else experienced SJW-ing in this way?
Years ago I was dating an SJW before I wisened up; he was the standard "White people bad, all non-whites good!"
So he learns about my heritage: my mom is descended from several Mayflower families 400 years ago, my dad is Native American, part of the Algonquin nation.
SJW Bro decides to start calling me a "basic White Girl, 1/64th Cherokee princess that can't even name what tribe she's from!" and racist for stealing Native Culture when I talked about my Algonquin Grandmother taking my cousins and me to Pow-Wows to teach us our heritage.
Years ago I was dating an SJW before I wisened up; he was the standard "White people bad, all non-whites good!"
So he learns about my heritage: my mom is descended from several Mayflower families 400 years ago, my dad is Native American, part of the Algonquin nation.
SJW Bro decides to start calling me a "basic White Girl, 1/64th Cherokee princess that can't even name what tribe she's from!" and racist for stealing Native Culture when I talked about my Algonquin Grandmother taking my cousins and me to Pow-Wows to teach us our heritage.