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The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.
The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” he writes in the document, labeled as the “Opinion of the Court.” “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”


Deliberations on controversial cases have in the past been fluid. Justices can and sometimes do change their votes as draft opinions circulate and major decisions can be subject to multiple drafts and vote-trading, sometimes until just days before a decision is unveiled. The court’s holding will not be final until it is published, likely in the next two months.
The immediate impact of the ruling as drafted in February would be to end a half-century guarantee of federal constitutional protection of abortion rights and allow each state to decide whether to restrict or ban abortion. It’s unclear if there have been subsequent changes to the draft.
No draft decision in the modern history of the court has been disclosed publicly while a case was still pending. The unprecedented revelation is bound to intensify the debate over what was already the most controversial case on the docket this term.
The draft opinion offers an extraordinary window into the justices’ deliberations in one of the most consequential cases before the court in the last five decades. Some court-watchers predicted that the conservative majority would slice away at abortion rights without flatly overturning a 49-year-old precedent. The draft shows that the court is looking to reject Roe’s logic and legal protections.
Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division.”
Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion
A person familiar with the court’s deliberations said that four of the other Republican-appointed justices – Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett – had voted with Alito in the conference held among the justices after hearing oral arguments in December, and that line-up remains unchanged as of this week.


The three Democratic-appointed justices – Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan – are working on one or more dissents, according to the person. How Chief Justice John Roberts will ultimately vote, and whether he will join an already written opinion or draft his own, is unclear.
The document, labeled as a first draft of the majority opinion, includes a notation that it was circulated among the justices on Feb. 10. If the Alito draft is adopted, it would rule in favor of Mississippi in the closely watched case over that state’s attempt to ban most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy.
A Supreme Court spokesperson declined to comment or make another representative of the court available to answer questions about the draft document.
POLITICO received a copy of the draft opinion from a person familiar with the court’s proceedings in the Mississippi case along with other details supporting the authenticity of the document. The draft opinion runs 98 pages, including a 31-page appendix of historical state abortion laws. The document is replete with citations to previous court decisions, books and other authorities, and includes 118 footnotes. The appearances and timing of this draft are consistent with court practice.
The disclosure of Alito’s draft majority opinion – a rare breach of Supreme Court secrecy and tradition around its deliberations – comes as all sides in the abortion debate are girding for the ruling. Speculation about the looming decision has been intense since the December oral arguments indicated a majority was inclined to support the Mississippi law.
Under longstanding court procedures, justices hold preliminary votes on cases shortly after argument and assign a member of the majority to write a draft of the court’s opinion. The draft is often amended in consultation with other justices, and in some cases the justices change their votes altogether, creating the possibility that the current alignment on Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization could change.
The chief justice typically assigns majority opinions when he is in the majority. When he is not, that decision is typically made by the most senior justice in the majority.

‘Exceptionally weak’​

A George W. Bush appointee who joined the court in 2006, Alito argues that the 1973 abortion rights ruling was an ill-conceived and deeply flawed decision that invented a right mentioned nowhere in the Constitution and unwisely sought to wrench the contentious issue away from the political branches of government.
Alito’s draft ruling would overturn a decision by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals that found the Mississippi law ran afoul of Supreme Court precedent by seeking to effectively ban abortions before viability.

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Roe’s “survey of history ranged from the constitutionally irrelevant to the plainly incorrect,” Alito continues, adding that its reasoning was “exceptionally weak,” and that the original decision has had “damaging consequences.”
“The inescapable conclusion is that a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the Nation’s history and traditions,” Alito writes.
Alito approvingly quotes a broad range of critics of the Roe decision. He also points to liberal icons such as the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe, who at certain points in their careers took issue with the reasoning in Roe or its impact on the political process.
Alito’s skewering of Roe and the endorsement of at least four other justices for that unsparing critique is also a measure of the court’s rightward turn in recent decades. Roe was decided 7-2 in 1973, with five Republican appointees joining two justices nominated by Democratic presidents.
The overturning of Roe would almost immediately lead to stricter limits on abortion access in large swaths of the South and Midwest, with about half of the states set to immediately impose broad abortion bans. Any state could still legally allow the procedure.
“The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion,” the draft concludes. “Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”
The draft contains the type of caustic rhetorical flourishes Alito is known for and that has caused Roberts, his fellow Bush appointee, some discomfort in the past.
At times, Alito’s draft opinion takes an almost mocking tone as it skewers the majority opinion in Roe, written by Justice Harry Blackmun, a Richard Nixon appointee who died in 1999.
Roe expressed the ‘feel[ing]’ that the Fourteenth Amendment was the provision that did the work, but its message seemed to be that the abortion right could be found somewhere in the Constitution and that specifying its exact location was not of paramount importance,” Alito writes.
Alito declares that one of the central tenets of Roe, the “viability” distinction between fetuses not capable of living outside the womb and those which can, “makes no sense.”
In several passages, he describes doctors and nurses who terminate pregnancies as “abortionists.”
When Roberts voted with liberal jurists in 2020 to block a Louisiana law imposing heavier regulations on abortion clinics, his solo concurrence used the more neutral term “abortion providers.” In contrast, Justice Clarence Thomas used the word “abortionist” 25 times in a solo dissent in the same case.


Alito’s use of the phrase “egregiously wrong” to describe Roe echoes language Mississippi Solicitor General Scott Stewart used in December in defending his state’s ban on abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. The phrase was also contained in an opinion Kavanaugh wrote as part of a 2020 ruling that jury convictions in criminal cases must be unanimous.
In that opinion, Kavanaugh labeled two well-known Supreme Court decisions “egregiously wrong when decided”: the 1944 ruling upholding the detention of Japanese Americans during World War II, Korematsu v. United States, and the 1896 decision that blessed racial segregation under the rubric of “separate but equal,” Plessy v. Ferguson.
The high court has never formally overturned Korematsu, but did repudiate the decision in a 2018 ruling by Roberts that upheld then-President Donald Trump’s travel ban policy.

The legacy of Plessy v. Ferguson​

Plessy remained the law of the land for nearly six decades until the court overturned it with the Brown v. Board of Education school desegregation ruling in 1954.
Quoting Kavanaugh, Alito writes of Plessy: “It was ‘egregiously wrong,’ on the day it was decided.”
Alito’s draft opinion includes, in small type, a list of about two pages’ worth of decisions in which the justices overruled prior precedents – in many instances reaching results praised by liberals.
The implication that allowing states to outlaw abortion is on par with ending legal racial segregation has been hotly disputed. But the comparison underscores the conservative justices’ belief that Roe is so flawed that the justices should disregard their usual hesitations about overturning precedent and wholeheartedly renounce it.
Alito’s draft opinion ventures even further into this racially sensitive territory by observing in a footnote that some early proponents of abortion rights also had unsavory views in favor of eugenics.
“Some such supporters have been motivated by a desire to suppress the size of the African American population,” Alito writes. “It is beyond dispute that Roe has had that demographic effect. A highly disproportionate percentage of aborted fetuses are black.”
Alito writes that by raising the point he isn’t casting aspersions on anyone. “For our part, we do not question the motives of either those who have supported and those who have opposed laws restricting abortion,” he writes.
Alito also addresses concern about the impact the decision could have on public discourse. “We cannot allow our decisions to be affected by any extraneous influences such as concern about the public’s reaction to our work,” Alito writes. “We do not pretend to know how our political system or society will respond to today’s decision overruling Roe and Casey. And even if we could foresee what will happen, we would have no authority to let that knowledge influence our decision.”


In the main opinion in the 1992 Casey decision, Justices Sandra Day O’Connor, Anthony Kennedy and Davis Souter warned that the court would pay a “terrible price” for overruling Roe, despite criticism of the decision from some in the public and the legal community.
“While it has engendered disapproval, it has not been unworkable,” the three justices wrote then. “An entire generation has come of age free to assume Roe‘s concept of liberty in defining the capacity of women to act in society, and to make reproductive decisions; no erosion of principle going to liberty or personal autonomy has left Roe‘s central holding a doctrinal remnant.”
When Dobbs was argued in December, Roberts seemed out of sync with the other conservative justices, as he has been in a number of cases including one challenging the Affordable Care Act.
At the argument session last fall, Roberts seemed to be searching for a way to uphold Mississippi’s 15-week ban without completely abandoning the Roe framework.
“Viability, it seems to me, doesn’t have anything to do with choice. But, if it really is an issue about choice, why is 15 weeks not enough time?” Roberts asked during the arguments. “The thing that is at issue before us today is 15 weeks.”

Nods to conservative colleagues​

While Alito’s draft opinion doesn’t cater much to Roberts’ views, portions of it seem intended to address the specific interests of other justices. One passage argues that social attitudes toward out-of-wedlock pregnancies “have changed drastically” since the 1970s and that increased demand for adoption makes abortion less necessary.
Those points dovetail with issues that Barrett – a Trump appointee and the court’s newest member – raised at the December arguments. She suggested laws allowing people to surrender newborn babies on a no-questions-asked basis mean carrying a pregnancy to term doesn’t oblige one to engage in child rearing.
“Why don’t the safe haven laws take care of that problem?” asked Barrett, who adopted two of her seven children.
Much of Alito’s draft is devoted to arguing that widespread criminalization of abortion during the 19th and early 20th century belies the notion that a right to abortion is implied in the Constitution.
The conservative justice attached to his draft a 31-page appendix listing laws passed to criminalize abortion during that period. Alito claims “an unbroken tradition of prohibiting abortion on pain of criminal punishment…from the earliest days of the common law until 1973.”


“Until the latter part of the 20th century, there was no support in American law for a constitutional right to obtain an abortion. Zero. None. No state constitutional provision had recognized such a right,” Alito adds.
Alito’s draft argues that rights protected by the Constitution but not explicitly mentioned in it – so-called unenumerated rights – must be strongly rooted in U.S. history and tradition. That form of analysis seems at odds with several of the court’s recent decisions, including many of its rulings backing gay rights.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled. The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision....”
Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion
Liberal justices seem likely to take issue with Alito’s assertion in the draft opinion that overturning Roe would not jeopardize other rights the courts have grounded in privacy, such as the right to contraception, to engage in private consensual sexual activity and to marry someone of the same sex.
“We emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” Alito writes. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”
Alito’s draft opinion rejects the idea that abortion bans reflect the subjugation of women in American society. “Women are not without electoral or political power,” he writes. “The percentage of women who register to vote and cast ballots is consistently higher than the percentage of men who do so.”
The Supreme Court remains one of Washington’s most secretive institutions, priding itself on protecting the confidentiality of its internal deliberations.
“At the Supreme Court, those who know don’t talk, and those who talk don’t know,” Ginsburg was fond of saying.
That tight-lipped reputation has eroded somewhat in recent decades due to a series of books by law clerks, law professors and investigative journalists. Some of these authors clearly had access to draft opinions such as the one obtained by POLITICO, but their books emerged well after the cases in question were resolved.
The justices held their final arguments of the current term on Wednesday. The court has set a series of sessions over the next two months to release rulings in its still-unresolved cases, including the Mississippi abortion case.
 
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These people legit think the jackboots are coming, like there's some Ministry of Ovulation or some shit.
They think local police are going to go full SVU/CSI on their irregular menses, when in reality the new normal for crime is "if your car gets stolen, a cop will not show up" in a lot of places.

Agreed. I think this woman, Elizabeth Deutsch is far more likely the culprit.

Twitter has her scrubbed, though she is mentioned and tagged in one article she wrote:
https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/title-ix-activism-sexual-violence-law
https://archive.ph/nNHGo

The person she co-wrote the article with: (Lol, Feministing....)
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The person who mentioned her on the one twatter search result sent a like over to this woman:
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...who just filed an amicus brief....
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I've just started paying attention to twatter, so I'm going to see what else comes up....

EDit: I wore out my autism, but a "journalist" named Kathryn Joyce seems pretty chummy with the woman Deutsch wrote the aarticle with, and she has connections with Politico as well. Her entire body of work is the most offensively puerile propaganda. This entire thing seems like a rat-king of activist lawyers , activist "charities", and activist "journalists" once you start delving into Deutsch's friend Brodsky.

Also,
relevant bit:

https://bust.com/feminism/15467-glo...r-included-everybody-bust-exclusive-clip.html
https://archive.ph/1WEij

Deutsch talks about 4:30
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Surprising no one, the person in question is a registered democrat. Sorry I don't have anything new or shocking.
 
Still confused how the gays fit into this whole thing, reddit faggots are in a tizzy about it for some reason or another and bashing republican faggots over it.
Already mentioned that they think it will put gay marriage in the crosshairs, but as I mentioned earlier, the predation is based on making sure leftist women's desires are fulfilled and the feminization of the west so they can be predatory to large doses of the population. They're like a parasite in regards to it, they have to make sure the women ae satiated or they can't pop out of the woodwork like we've been seeing.
No I mean like…these people are supposed to be studying to be lawyers and they don’t understand that the Supreme Court just interprets laws and the Constitution…
Commies and socialist took over education this is the end result.
Problem is that they’re doing so to preserve the status quo. The narrative won’t stick.
Actually it can slightly. They are supposed to be about progress, it may not be to their progress but it can be pointed out they're defying their own ideology with the violence, by preserving the status quo they're preserving a racist society. Meme worthy no doubt but potentially worth it.
Will you all just shut the fuck up about race? I don’t give a damn about the demographics, this is a moral issue. Putting practical concerns ahead of moral truths in this situation makes you no better than the left.
Look, we care because there is some truth to it. Race does matter believe it or not, most other races contest it, and if you have an honest discussion with a minority they'll tell you partially the same. Sure some still deny it based on MLKism, but the majority don't even want their own kind entering the US. Why would that be? I'm not going to dwelve too deeply into the discussion in this topic and I don't have much time today but if you ever want to debate just send me a message.
We wouldn’t have mass migration if we didn’t stop pumping out kids.
Like someone else posted, it's the reverse. Minorities in US sent money away and voted for higher minimum wage, and led to higher inflation making it harder for the majority of the middle class to have children. (White people) We can't do it outside western countries or we get ganked so they flood us and in doing so would over time lead to an eventual genocide in theory. Stop the feminization of the west women will start clamoring for babies and white men won't have so much competition with Tyrone who makes welfare and doesn't even have to work and gets multi-million dollar settlements (resources) to reproduce with white women while most White men have to struggle for bare ends meat and can't afford a child. Yes, women voted for these things as well, but it's why some off us take note that feminism is also part of this marxist equation in the west to destroy and dismantle civilized (White) societies purposely. It's happening in other countries as well and parts of the world but it's extremely devastating to first world nations.
 
I wish I was a rich black celebrity so I could post something like this to the masses.

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Then all I would do is just fight random people and accuse of them of racism 24/7, lol. That would rule - Maybe get so hot that a bunch of white ANTIFA teens start blocking ER hospital lanes and shit.
Kanye already did it i think:

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he also rapped about it:

Don't make me go Rastafar'
We doin', no tryin', no dyin', we livid, I'm livin', I get more specific
All these admirations, likes, and false validations
Feeding to our ego, talk for somethin', negro
One in four get locked up, your girlfriend get knocked up
Plan B was they Plan A to lower the count of our families
To lower the count on our damn votes
 
Muslims are actually leaving the UK right now. A lot of them came here looking for a better life, settled for a bit, and then used it as a branching point to build up for their children. Now their grandchildren are being taught tranny shit, or gay shit; and the UK economy is going a bit shit. So they're packing up and leaving. Not sure if that trend will continue, or how widespread it is beyond the small communities I've been reading about, but we'll see.
Already replied but didn't really address it so here goes, people really overestimate the "conquering" that's happening. Economic migrants are not warriors, they're at best cowards and are usually the least competent of their group. Remember that video of the Algerians gleefully chimping out about how they're "colonizing" France? They would be the first ones running away during an economic collapse (which is inevitable at this point for the West) or would get annihilated the moment an IRA-like group started targeting them.
They're nothing like the Taliban, and as Goland Blumpf put it, they're not sending their best.
 
How many are quality justices? Alito for sure is, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh probably, Barrett, I don't know much about her decisions and prior work. I heard Thomas goes for clerks with views like his and tells them what's what, and makes sure what they write is in line with that. Roberts could be but he cucks more often than not.
I don't really have anything to add there, seems like you nailed things as far as I know. Roberts probably hires "flexible" clerks willing to write what other people are paying them to say, which is well in line with Roberts himself.
I heard this about her too but she's also made dumb as fuck statements in speeches and from the bench. She ain't no Oliver Wendell Holmes so its guaranteed her clerks do the thinking and writing.
We're not disagreeing? I never said she did any work after all. Probably just drinks horchata and eats snack foods instead of doing her job.
If we look further back, I think the Wise Latina and Scalia were considered exceptional justices, right?
Scalia was exceptional, yes. The Wise Latina, Sotomayor, is merely "exceptional". Special, even, as far as Supreme Court justices though. She should be overseeing traffic court, not Con Law. Even then she'd still probably fuck up half the time.
I could have sworn Judges were the law, not law students... And now I want Thomas and Alito to go around in their robes and some body armor gunning down everyone who tries to take away the Constitutional rights of their fellow Americans... Its the Judge Dredd reboot we deserve, after all.
 
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Barring the deep south, most black communities in the US are located in deep blue states. Once Roe is repealed those states are going to have a field day with abortion, there'll be more clinics per capita than McDonalds. Plus, abortion activists are already shouting about post-birth viability from the rooftops.
That's true, but they will still see an uptick in their numbers. A meal ticket is a meal ticket after all, and now they'll be afforded the perfect excuse to ask for more gibs. I think we'll get to see more of this going forward:
Other than that, I think the state of the economy is a far more pressing issue than degenerate dregs, regardless of race, purging themselves from the gene pool.
 
I wish I was a rich black celebrity so I could post something like this to the masses.

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Then all I would do is just fight random people and accuse of them of racism 24/7, lol. That would rule - Maybe get so hot that a bunch of white ANTIFA teens start blocking ER hospital lanes and shit.
Fun fact, you don't actually have to be black. Just go trawling through some social media cancer pics and find some hood niggas pics, throw on some filters and make yourself a twitter. Bam, now you have an internet n word pass.
 
We're not disagreeing? I never said she did any work after all. Probably just drinks horchata and eats snack foods instead of doing her job.
Oh right, just saying she probably bleats out "I want to say X" and leaves her clerk to do the write up, I'm used to judges and lawyers who literally write out memorandums of law as suggestions.

And if it was only horchata, she's a fat Puerto Rican and they love them fried food snackerinos. I like them too but Puerto Ricans and Dominicans make a religion of frying up everything; Dominicans even fry something called Dominican Salami that doesn't resemble any salami I've ever seen.
 
Wait, are gay agenda people seriously convinced that overturning Roe puts gay marriage in the crosshairs?

That can't be real, nobody is that stupid, or at least nobody setting the narrative is. More rolling around pretending they got shot. 🙄

It's not even remotely the same area of law and the only relevant "precedent" here is that the court can overturn a decision it made in the past. Which existed well before this happened anyway.

Like for fuck's sake gay marriage is an equal protection issue, (not so) straight up.

In a supreme irony given the argument being floated around tech hellholes, from an equal protection standpoint Roe is a massive fucking problem, because it creates a supposedly universal "right" which is narrowly tailored to only apply to:
-A woman.
--Who is pregnant.
---And is seeking an abortion.

Besides flying in the face of the concept of human rights right out of the gate just because of how specific its application is, Roe is an equal protection nightmare when examined thoroughly...you know, the EXACT examination which led to gay marriage getting legalized by the court.
 
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remember not to handmaiden cluster b hoes, this is essentially the best thing that's happened to them since trump was elected
The bottom one is exactly why I'm just standing here eating popcorn and watching.

50 years of "YOU DON'T GET A SAY!" being shrieked at any man who so much as dared to look like he was going to open his mouth.

Well, I don't get a say or an opinion.

Which means I'll just stand here and watch.
 
If you can't afford payroll you can't be in business.
Yes, if you can't afford what you and your employee agreed upon, you can't be in business.

That's far and away different from the state deciding all on its own, separate from you or the person you hired, that you need to pay more in the name of whatever stupid scheme they have in mind. If a guy wants to work for peanuts, what's it to the employer? Or to you?

It's not societies place to subside your shit failing business.
It wouldn't be failing if the state didn't force them to increase their operation costs, while the same politicians making the mandate get paid to generally do nothing of worth.
 
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