Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[ForTheHoard]

Absolute nonsense, I've no idea why you would claim this. A yellow band indicates HE.

Because every 9mm training LAW and AT-4 I ever fired had a yellow stripe on it and I had to sit through a short class from an armorer on the designation colors. What sense does it make to put a bright yellow band on a weapon that's going to be carried into combat and was otherwise designed with a camo color scheme in mind? Live launchers had a black band.

 

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

That's a mighty big 9mm round! A training/practice round would have a blue band. I take it from your mention of the LAW you are some time out of service?

 

[Deadman]

Question: how likley that Russia strikes across the border on some weapons depot housing weapons meant for Ukraine? That might seem ridiculous and escalatory, but it’s been suggested from a couple people I know, mostly RT’s (and I know their a mouthpiece) Peter Lavelle And his co host on the gaggle (a podcast they do together talking politisperg, mostly about ukriane recently) George Szamuely. There argument is that it won’t “Necessarily” trigger a article 5, cuz NATO using Ukraine as a proxy war is in direct violation of article 1 (don’t be in a active war) and they cannot trigger article 5 as a result..... like nato follow's its own rules!
Its clearly suicidal to do such a move, right?

 

[IKOL]

They've already tried and failed.

tried probing (Uranus). I can't tell that probing the ground was a complete failure. Miscalculations and underestimating of potential military response were made, yet lessons learned from that.

Don't Worry my brother from another incest mother, the worst of things (for Zelensky) are yet to come.

Question: how likley that Russia strikes across the border on some weapons depot housing weapons meant for Ukraine? That might seem ridiculous and escalatory, but it’s been suggested from a couple people I know, mostly RT’s (and I know their a mouthpiece) Peter Lavelle And his co host on the gaggle (a podcast they do together talking politisperg, mostly about ukriane recently) George Szamuely. There argument is that it won’t “Necessarily” trigger a article 5, cuz NATO using Ukraine as a proxy war is in direct violation of article 1 (don’t be in a active war) and they cannot trigger article 5 as a result..... like nato follow's its own rules!
Its clearly suicidal to do such a move, right?

Highly unlikely, it's an unworthy risk that Putin would not take.

 

[borsabil]

Question: how likley that Russia strikes across the border on some weapons depot housing weapons meant for Ukraine? That might seem ridiculous and escalatory, but it’s been suggested from a couple people I know, mostly RT’s (and I know their a mouthpiece) Peter Lavelle And his co host on the gaggle (a podcast they do together talking politisperg, mostly about ukriane recently) George Szamuely. There argument is that it won’t “Necessarily” trigger a article 5, cuz NATO using Ukraine as a proxy war is in direct violation of article 1 (don’t be in a active war) and they cannot trigger article 5 as a result..... like nato follow's its own rules!
Its clearly suicidal to do such a move, right?

Accuse the burgers of direct involvement in the cross border attacks into Russia (which is true). Send out clear warnings that targeting storage facilities in NATO territory will happen unless the supply of weapons to Ukraine ceases. Stand back and watch what happens.

The majority of Europeans absolutely don't want to even think about going to war with Russia, it's massively unpopular for obvious reasons. Even if Putin doesn't intend to do shit he can stir up a lot of conflict among the NATO members by talking about escalation.

 

[redicart]

Who started this idea that May 9th was some significant milestone in THIS war? I understand the Soviet history connection. But who started this idea?

Pretty much this. I doubt Putin has a timetable and is just creating a meat grinder for Ukrainians.

I will laugh if in a few years Germany elects a leader with a funny mustache again.

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Remember kids. When you see a yellow stripe on a US/NATO rocket/missile launcher, it's a training device and not capable of firing real munitions.

Stupid shithead. Yellow means High Explosive. Blue means training.

 

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

Stupid shithead. Yellow means High Explosive. Blue means training.

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Given that this is a picture of a British NCO delivering training on the British supplied NLAW to Ukrainian troops, and this training round quite clearly has a blue band, I think we can safely say that our Russian chums had a legit NLAW tube. Which isn't saying a great deal in itself as they are disposable.

 

[ForTheHoard]

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That's a mighty big 9mm round! A training/practice round would have a blue band. I take it from your mention of the LAW you are some time out of service?

Stupid shithead. Yellow means High Explosive. Blue means training.

Well, I was wrong. I do have some time out of service and things have changed. While I may be a stupid shithead on this, the real stupid shithead is the guy that decided the yellow stripe should go from the training weapons to the combat ones. I can't make sense of it because it completely goes against the purpose of the coloring system of my day. Do they let you wear white socks now too?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Well, I was wrong. I do have some time out of service and things have changed. While I may be a stupid shithead on this, the real stupid shithead is the guy that decided the yellow stripe should go from the training weapons to the combat ones. I can't make sense of it because it completely goes against the purpose of the coloring system of my day. Do they let you wear white socks now too?

No but you can wear a skirt when they give out ribbons for most stunning and brave transbian soldier.

 

[Titos]

I think it's funny how all of these years later the US still has that retarded tonnage treaty with Japan.

It seems weird but you have to remember the "uwuu~ am i kawaii :3" could all be an act. You repeal the restrictrictions? Next thing you know there's gundams in the pacific and Metal Gear Ray is off the coast of Florida. The japs can't be trusted.

 

[White_N]

It seems weird but you have to remember the "uwuu~ am i kawaii :3" could all be an act. You repeal the restrictrictions? Next thing you know there's gundams in the pacific and Metal Gear Ray is off the coast of Florida. The japs can't be trusted.

They are going to repeat the rape of Nanking somewhere else while saying, "Uwu so kawai" and looking like womanized twinks. It's doubly cursed, and we can't let the Japs get away with it.

 

[Titos]

They are going to repeat the rape of Nanking somewhere else while saying, "Uwu so kawai" and looking like womanized twinks. It's doubly cursed, and we can't let the Japs get away with it.

The chinks and gooks will now have to whine about comfort catgirls.
In all seriousness though. Japan has the most terrifying military in the world due to it's demoralization tactics. I mean would you want to join an army if there was a chance you get blown to smithereens by a jet with an anime girl on it?

 

[IKOL]

STOP! Minute of sad music time.
RIP Origa...

 

[Free_Palestine]

probably restoring ukrainian sovereignty within its pre 2014 borders
that would be very based

You oversimply this too much, the war has been going since 2014 before the Russian military moved in. It not being Ukrainian sovereign territory in the first place is why there is conflict over it. In the early stages it was primarily fought by East Ukrainian army defectors against the American backed Ukrainian puppet government. Crimea is majority Russian and Donbass region does not want to be a part of Ukraine, that is not going to change after Ukraine spent 8 years bombing civilians in the region during their "anti-terrorism" operations.

Thinking the conflict will end if Russia withdraws is naive, America wants Russia embroiled in this Ukrainian Civil War. It's why they had Zelensky and co trash every peace proposal. It's a rehash of what they did with Afghanistan/Osama and Syria/ISIS but instead of the usual Islamic extremists it's Nazis retards they exert control over this time around.

Russia's big mistake was waiting too long, they should have moved in during the 2014 era to stabilize the region, they still would have had to contend with American backed Neo-Nazi terrorists but the problem would not have inflated to this size.

 

[UVB-76]

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You accuse others of oversimplifying but omit the Russian military presence prior to 2022, the constant ceasefire violations, etc.
The conflict would end if Russia called it quits because the separatist movement would lose steam once it was abandoned. They need to get supplied and paid to continue, so if anything it was Russia who wanted a civil war kerfuffle from the very beginning.
Russia's big mistake was trying to end this in one fell swoop. Now they got the Uno reverse card pulled on them. PROTIP: When you're trying to Afghanistan someone, don't Afghanistan yourself in the process.

 

[White_N]

The adviser to the President of Ukraine said that the fighting at the Azovstal plant has resumed.
He also said that he does not expect a Ukrainian counteroffensive until mid-June.

Naval artillery is hammering at Azovstal.

The Ukrainian soldier declares that they will not take anyone prisoner and that, in general, the Russian nation must be destroyed.

Dynamics of Ukrainians' attitude to Stepan Bandera

June 2012 – only 22% of respondents have a positive attitude towards the personality of Bandera, 58% of respondents have a negative attitude;

April 2022 – 74% of respondents have a positive attitude towards the personality of Bandera, only 14% of respondents have a negative attitude.

 

[White_N]

You accuse others of oversimplifying but omit the Russian military presence prior to 2022, the constant ceasefire violations, etc.
The conflict would end if Russia called it quits because the separatist movement would lose steam once it was abandoned. They need to get supplied and paid to continue, so if anything it was Russia who wanted a civil war kerfuffle from the very beginning.
Russia's big mistake was trying to end this in one fell swoop. Now they got the Uno reverse card pulled on them. PROTIP: When you're trying to Afghanistan someone, don't Afghanistan yourself in the process.

Do you know why there is a second Minsk agreement? What happened to the first? Ukrainian authorities spat on the first Minsk agreements and started an "anti-terrorist operation" then lost badly to the republicans and then the second Minsk agreements took place. So yeah, the ceasefire violation was officially the position of Ukraine, the good guys.
And guess what parts of the agreements also weren't enacted?

6.A law preventing the prosecution and punishment of people in connection with the events that have taken place in some areas of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts.

7.To continue the inclusive national dialogue.

8.To take measures to improve the humanitarian situation in Donbas.

9.To ensure early local elections in accordance with the Ukrainian law "On temporary Order of Local Self-Governance in Particular Districts of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts".

Which was mostly the responsibility of the Ukrainian authorities, and they officially stated that this would never happen.

(Odessa, 27.10.14)

Poroshenko explains how he intends to win the war.
"Residents of Donbass and Lugansk will soon start asking for it back, because they themselves "don't know how to do anything." Therefore, the pensions earned over a lifetime have stopped paying grandmothers, and "children will sit in basements." Interestingly, having called the war against the "Anti-terrorist operation", they intend to "defeat the terrorists" by driving the children of residents who are supposed to be "terrorized by terrorists" into basements.

So which side are the real terrorists from?

 

[Free_Palestine]

The conflict would end if Russia called it quits

No it would not, it would only expand as has been seen with this conflict happening because Russia did everything it could to avoid being embroiled until it was too late.

You do not understand the dynamics here or you are being dishonest about it, America seeks constant military/social expansion. This is curtailed by a multipolar world, it was the existence of the Soviet Union that prevented America from invading Iraq and the middle east. It was primarily Russia (and Iran) that put ISIS back in the bottle and prevented Syria from collapsing etc

You listen to recent news stories of Chinese language teachers being suicide bombed by easily led Islamic nutbars, who do you think is really behind that?

The idea the state department and friends is running with is that if they can contain Russia and China they can get their forever wars across the globe finally unhindered.

 

[Ponzo]

New video by PL titled "Mariupol. Death"

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Dynamics of Ukrainians' attitude to Stepan Bandera

June 2012 – only 22% of respondents have a positive attitude towards the personality of Bandera, 58% of respondents have a negative attitude;

April 2022 – 74% of respondents have a positive attitude towards the personality of Bandera, only 14% of respondents have a negative attitude.
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The April 2022 statistic is petty useless considering the Rally Around The Flag effect. Fucking George W had an approval rating of fucking 90% or so after 9/11.