Supreme Court Watch

[Calandrino]

Reposting here with an addendum: why aren't people who are freaking out about this just promote O&A?

I think they're already doing that. Plus fucking kids... little kids can't get pregnant. Or you could have vaginal sex with a transgender woman. I see liberals entertaining all of these solutions.

 

[Garm]

A username/post combo that would make a helluva punk band name/album title. Or death metal.

In other news, I was thinking of how Antifa was goaded/controlled by Democrats and wondering when we'll see it come out that these seething pro-abortion soon to be riots are astroturfed to hell, and where the money is coming from.

They act like it's all spontaneous and grassroots, but they had those Handmaid Tale costumes really fast when supposedly the left was as shocked as everyone else about the leak and totally didn't know it was coming...

Gehenna has gone over this in the Biden thread. No money or political capital for the Antifa to come out. Especially after Rittenhouse put two in the ground and a third is missing his bicep. Odds are good that we'll get a few "rogue" operators and organizers who will be brought back in line once they see there isn't some massive uprising waiting in the wings.

The handmaid tale costumes have been around forever so they probably just grabbed some out of storage.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Obama and Michelle like flip-flopping about Roe vs Wade from what I read on that article from American Thinker. Him, who was anti-gun call for arms, oh the irony!

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/05/obama_and_michelle_call_to_arms_over_roe_v_wade.html

May 6, 2022

Obama and Michelle Call to Arms Over Roe v. Wade​

By Jeannie DeAngelis

On April 21, 2022, Barack Obama spoke at a cyber symposium hosted by Stanford University. During that address, the former president attempted to redefine the meaning of free speech. Obama argued that in order to safeguard America from opinions he considers dangerous, government regulation of the First Amendment, via constitutional modification, was more than justified.
Fast forward two weeks, on May 3rd, after the news leaked that the U.S. Supreme Court is close to overturning the decision Justice Samuel Alito called “egregiously wrong from the start,” Barack, along with his wife Michelle, immediately responded by contradicting the argument he made at Stanford.

Barack Obama had just decreed that, among other things, questioning the 2020 election result threatens democratic ideals and must be silenced through federal rule. Then when the Roe v. Wade information leaked, the former president did a 180-degree about-face and issued directives that if the highest court in the land decides Roe v. Wade is bad law, and throws abortion back to the states, public rejection of the decision is necessary as well as exercising the First Amendment right to protest.
Simply put, depending on the ideological leaning of the topic, one week, the right to free speech should be restricted and the “flawed” Constitution adjusted, and the next week, the right to free speech exercised and the sacred Constitution protected.
The couple explained why that’s necessary in the following way:

Today, millions of Americans woke up fearing that their essential freedoms under the Constitution were at risk. If the Supreme Court ultimately decides to overturn the landmark case of Roe v. Wade, then it will not only reverse nearly 50 years of precedent – it will relegate the most intensely personal decision someone can make to the whims of politicians and ideologues.

That rant should have begun by ‘relegating’ “intensely personal decisions” to the ‘before you participate in the procreative act’ column. Next the statement could have explained to America why the precedent set by the First Amendment in 1791 is less of a pattern for freedom than a poorly thought-out decision made in 1973?
Please note, when addressing the need to oppose this controversy, both Biden and Obama coincidentally mentioned the word “whims.”
Nevertheless, what Barack and Michelle failed to acknowledge in their quickly released communiqué was that there are “millions of [other] Americans” who’ve also woken up every day for the last 50 years and who lament the 62 million lives snuffed out “under [the auspices of a] Constitution” established to protect both “life and liberty,” neither of which was meant to exclude one from the other. Those Americans are thankful that at least on the federal level, the “essential freedoms under the Constitution” will also apply to the 3,000 unborn Americans whose lives are “at risk” every single day.

What Obama shared, as if it was settled truth, was that despite 98% of all abortions being solely for convenience’s sake, he and his wife believe the more than 60 million women who disposed of 20% of the current U.S. population did not approach the decision “lightly.” How he knows that statistic is anyone’s guess.
Ironically, Obama's statement also argued that ceasing federal support for abortion "pose grave risks" to the health, fertility, and life of – wait for it – schoolgirls without cars and poor working women who choose abortion over the lives of their children.
Wait! Isn’t the former president amongst those who insist federal control of gun ownership ensures the “grave risks” posed by guns would be eliminated? If that’s true, and government equals safety and the assurance that illegal firearms will be impossible to access if gun laws are enacted, why then doesn’t the same hold true when it comes to access to illegal abortion? If restricting guns saves American lives, so should restricting abortion.

 

[Stoicism Is For Losers]

I have no idea why the abortion debate is so toxic and infected, I think both sides have good points. Sure I am on the pro-life side. Now I'm not from US so i lack the US perspective. But why is pro-life seen by many on the pro-choice side as not only incorrect but also highly morally objectionable.
I understand their arguments they use, body autonomy is an important right. But we're talking about eradication of a new human life. I think life is too precious to just allow free abortion. Abortion should be reserved for situations like if the baby is going to come out without skin and no eyeballs and die after two weeks of excruciating agony, or the pregnancy is so dangerous it could end up killing the mother. Just letting someone get an abortion because they "didn't want it" is gross and monstrous. If you cant take care of the baby put it up for adoption.

 

[Null]

I have no idea why the abortion debate is so toxic and infected

It's really not hard to understand. One side thinks it's murder and the other thinks it's a human right as fundamental as speech or voting. It's very hard to find compromise in something so completely polarized. At the end of the day, either you can have an abortion or you can't. There is no middle ground.

 

[Stoicism Is For Losers]

It's really not hard to understand. One side thinks it's murder and the other thinks it's a human right as fundamental as speech or voting. It's very hard to find compromise in something so completely polarized. At the end of the day, either you can have an abortion or you can't. There is no middle ground.

My main annoyance with it all is that I cant express my opinions in a non-anonymous setting. If I did my reputation would go into the toilet instantly with my peers even if I would be calm and non-confrontational about it. I spend a lot of time in left-leaning communities normally and I like to think of myself as "progressive", but because i value human life very highly I cant agree with my friends pro-choice beliefs. Only reason i really came here was so i could just say what I think about it because i have no outlet to express my belief without fearing serious consequences from my communities.

 

[TFT-A9]

It's really not hard to understand. One side thinks it's murder and the other thinks it's a human right as fundamental as speech or voting. It's very hard to find compromise in something so completely polarized. At the end of the day, either you can have an abortion or you can't. There is no middle ground.

Any time kids/babies enter the picture people are going to get their hackles up, and I'd argue this is a good thing at its core even if it leads to some abject "Think of the children!"-branded retardation at times.

 

[Adolphin]

Don't!

 

[Collections Agent]

And possibly it should. This is a moral disagreement on such a fundamental level that possibly it only can be resolved through violence.

If such an event occurs, Billybob and Mohammed likely have a slight advantage over Daniqua and Lilith (38 year old transgender with xir/xhe pronouns)

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

TBH they should just get an IED or their tubes tied, be on the pill, take the special morning after pill, or use a condom.

Ah yes, the old Afghani Birth Control.
Although I'd suggest an IUD; you have to use much less copper but it's just as deadly to the "clump of cells"

 

[Male Idiot]

Don't!
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I know it hurts, but even if there is full on state abortion for niggos readily available, the democrats will just import more directly from Apefri... DA MUDDALAND.

 

[FatalTater]

This shouldn't need saying, but for fuck's sake DO NOT GO TO ANY PROTESTS over this.
The protesters are being encouraged (by who? I dunno) to get violent.
Don't go to these things! Even if you don't plan to be violent, you may be used as a human shield by those who are.

I am so tired of riots and fighting and breaking things and fires and all the other related bullshit.

Have opinions, but be civilized about it. Please.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

This shouldn't need saying, but for fuck's sake DO NOT GO TO ANY PROTESTS over this.
The protesters are being encouraged (by who? I dunno) to get violent.
Don't go to these things! Even if you don't plan to be violent, you may be used as a human shield by those who are.

I am so tired of riots and fighting and breaking things and fires and all the other related bullshit.

Have opinions, but be civilized about it. Please.

Um sweaty. In current year it's my way or the high way. you're either a revolutionary for the communist democratic people's liberation front for the people or a fascist.

 

[Adolphin]

I know it hurts, but even if there is full on state abortion for niggos readily available, the democrats will just import more directly from Apefri... DA MUDDALAND.

And Republicans will protest that those negroes lack Green Cards and do not wear MAGA hats.

 

[Sailor Kim Jong Moon]

Don't!
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I love it when they just decide to leave Asians out of the data completely lol that might open up an awkward conversation about culture, family, and expectations…

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

I love it when they just decide to leave Asians out of the data completely lol that might open up an awkward conversation about culture, family, and expectations…

I think they lump all the gook species into the white category now. Depends if that chart was made at a Ivy league university or not. If not then the mongloids are definitely in the other category because of how little they do it so they need to fluff the numbers with every other racial category that's not the big three in the US.

 

[Josterman]

 

[borsabil]

Don't!
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OTOH prioritizing POC's for access to safe and effective abortion services over whites to make up for billions of years of oppression is very tempting, on the other it's still baby murder. Even an unapologetic racist like me has to draw the line somewhere.

 

[DumbDude42]

OTOH prioritizing POC's for access to safe and effective abortion services over whites to make up for billions of years of oppression is very tempting, on the other it's still baby murder. Even an unapologetic racist like me has to draw the line somewhere.

>keep abortion legal
>make it cost $500.000 and cut it out of insurance coverage so nobody can afford it
>pass a big "reparation for slavery" bill that grants "free access to reproductive health care" to black women
best move
white women would be giga mad but can't say anything because that would be racism

 

[Cryin RN]

It shouldn't be forced, but offered via bribe. If you bribe people to sterilize themselves for cash, UBI or a tax breaks it will clear out a lot of the societal sink people. They want to stay perpetually teenagers, or like, live as pets to society. We sterilize our pets, it's not even strange, but we also provide for them so they can have cushy lives. I'm sure your average pronoun loving, identity switching person would love to just be rewarded for making a decision like that.

I wan to point out that this idea is not going to happen in the West, ever. It's already being tried, is blanket unpopular with both sides, and is questionably legal depending on how strong state protections are regarding informed consent. There have never been any instances of sterilization by government mechanism throughout history, ever, that has ended without massive lawsuits at cost to the public purse and scathing career-ending criticism from the press and public even when it was being applied to literal retards or convicted criminals. This is how you know that puberty blockers are in for millions of dollars of class actions in the future as women realize that a hysterectomy at 16 is not an informed decision. Courts across the world have ruled that fertility, if you have it, cannot be coerced away from you. It's also why rapists can't be castrated.

This leaked decision is really interesting regarding the potential of other civil rights rulings being affected. It's like a Jenga block that makes a lot of other decisions teeter a bit. As a soulless husk who lives on drama, I would laugh for days if race traitor Clarence Thomas accidentally negates Loving.