Containment Official Decision Regarding Gender and Chris/Gender Discussion Megathread

[catinasock]

Not so happy Mother’s Day this year for her daughter though.

barb doesn't have a daughter, hope to god you arent calling chris a girl

 

[Thumb Butler]

barb doesn't have a daughter, hope to god you arent calling chris a girl

Bigot, last time I checked Christine was a girl's name and she is a transgirl so heckin' valid. Whatever.

 

[Merried Seinor Coomer]

Bigot, last time I checked Christine was a girl's name and she is a transgirl so heckin' valid. Whatever.

Christine is already 40 and has no kids. Judging by her latest pic "the change" is already upon her and she's rapidly running out of eggs, no matter how often she recycles her menses.

Sad to say but it looks like Chris will never be a mother.

 

[BigTubboWithLittleChina]

Just because they did something bad, that doesn't give us the right to take away their basic human privileges.

Yeah, no. When you're an arrogant wanker who forces yourself on your own octogenarian mother, then we get to decide what pronouns you're addressed by. Act like scum, then don't expect me to call you 'she/her/hers' just because you wear a skirt.

Besides, it pisses Chris off, and that's reason enough in itself.

 

[BentDuck]

Yeah, no. When you're an arrogant wanker who forces yourself on your own octogenarian mother, then we get to decide what pronouns you're addressed by. Act like scum, then don't expect me to call you 'she/her/hers' just because you wear a skirt.

Besides, it pisses Chris off, and that's reason enough in itself.

I normally respect people's pronouns, because honestly, I don't give a shit what people want to call themselves, it does effect me, so why should I care. But I'm with you on this one. While I don't deny that Chris has some form of gender identity fuckery going on, mainly due to his brain being wired differently, his motivation to go through with is was a very poorly thought out ploy to try to get china, by opening himself to lesbians.

I just don't get why people defend Chris so much on this issue. Do you want this person to seriously be a giant target for anti-trans people to latch onto and basically be a strawman for your movement? There are already enough troons that give trans people a bad name (but to be fair, you can pick any group of people and find repugnant people). You really want to add a literal rapist and a motherfucker into your in-group?

 

[King Kiwi]

I normally respect people's pronouns

I have yet to have someone correct me (thank fucking God) and even than I'll probably just use their first name.

Whether it makes grammatical sense or not, I'm not learning 62 godamn pronouns and no motherfucking mother fucker like Chris is going to make me.

 

[FinnSven]

There are already enough troons that give trans people a bad name (but to be fair, you can pick any group of people and find repugnant people). You really want to add a literal rapist and a motherfucker into your in-group?

Well this actually says a fair bit in that they are willing to accept Chris as trans, in that it is uncharacteristic integrity.

At least they are willing to stick by their ideology, to the point of accepting someone who has shown themselves to be not above the worst taboos.

More commonly they are willing to defend a trans identified person from hideous crimes, on the basis that they are trans. Now at least they are accepting that trans people can be twisted for reasons which people are not attributing to gender confusion.

 

[Mukhrani]

The logic is that non-trans people don’t get punished (as they see it) by having their pronouns ignored. We don’t call Ted Bundy “she” because we know he wanted to be called “he,” for example. To them, ignoring it for one person is as bad as ignoring it for anyone else, regardless of whether the person is good or bad. Just sharing the explanation, not endorsing it.

I think a huge part of why it irks them so much is that trannies want to believe that everyone who calls them 'she' or 'her' thinks that they are true and honest women. They want to believe that they genuinely pass. In reality, in 90+% of cases where their pronouns are used, people are doing it because it's considered polite, or to avoid confrontation, or out of fear of losing their job. It's just a formality, everyone knows it's a crazy dude in a dress, we're just humoring them.

They're correct in the logic that you laid out, but they get so pissed off over it because people feel comfortable 'revoking' Chris's pronoun precisely because of this 'formality' situation that exists: you don't have to be polite to people who are literal motherfuckers, so people don't lie to bend reality for his sake. A normal dude wouldn't be offended by someone misgendering Bundy because a normal dude isn't neurotic, and hung up on the idea that the rest of the world sees him as a dude. However, that's exactly how some hulking shemale with linebacker shoulders feels about the situation, and so they feel very threatened by any hint of the real underlying situation. If everyone is just humoring them, they're a pathetic spectacle, not stunning and brave.

 

[Ophelia]

I think a huge part of why it irks them so much is that trannies want to believe that everyone who calls them 'she' or 'her' thinks that they are true and honest women. They want to believe that they genuinely pass.

Aside from the idiot whiners on social media, they know they don’t. They’re trans and they look trans.

Spoiler: Thoughts on pronouns and shit

Most people would be irritated if they said “I’m Robert, but I go by Bob” and someone persistently and pointedly referred to them as “Robert.” Generally, if you told people you were a man and you did your best to look like the men around you, you’d be pissed if someone kept calling you a woman. I can understand the frustration for the people who try to send out signals about what they’d like to be referred to. It’s just good manners, but society likes good manners.

 

[GypsyBard]

I think a huge part of why it irks them so much is that trannies want to believe that everyone who calls them 'she' or 'her' thinks that they are true and honest women. They want to believe that they genuinely pass. In reality, in 90+% of cases where their pronouns are used, people are doing it because it's considered polite, or to avoid confrontation, or out of fear of losing their job. It's just a formality, everyone knows it's a crazy dude in a dress, we're just humoring them.

They're correct in the logic that you laid out, but they get so pissed off over it because people feel comfortable 'revoking' Chris's pronoun precisely because of this 'formality' situation that exists: you don't have to be polite to people who are literal motherfuckers, so people don't lie to bend reality for his sake. A normal dude wouldn't be offended by someone misgendering Bundy because a normal dude isn't neurotic, and hung up on the idea that the rest of the world sees him as a dude. However, that's exactly how some hulking shemale with linebacker shoulders feels about the situation, and so they feel very threatened by any hint of the real underlying situation. If everyone is just humoring them, they're a pathetic spectacle, not stunning and brave.

Why I don't call Chris she
Chris would ask woman out and to politely put him down they would use the old "I have a boyfriend" line
Chris thought every woman had a boyfriend because of this
So he sat down one day and had a good old think about ithe thought "what group of women don't have boyfriends?"
The answer is lesbians
But the problem is lesbians only date other lesbians so Chris thought "I need to become a lesbian"

That mixed with Chris believing whatever collective he surrounded himself with in this case the left on Twitter who for some reason are obsessed with trans people caused him to adopt that persona

The fact is he is a predator disguising himself as a woman to hopefully trap some prey. Granted he was not good at it and failed

 

[Liquid Vergil]

It's really funny watching troons and their supporters talk about Chris when he is a poster child for what being "trans" is really about without the intelligence to cope it into something more palatable sounding

 

[ObservingTheMadness]

Chris-Chan was never a she to begin with. As I see it, Chris was so desperate for a woman, he started to believe he was once.

 

[TheLastJoestar]

I think a huge part of why it irks them so much is that trannies want to believe that everyone who calls them 'she' or 'her' thinks that they are true and honest women. They want to believe that they genuinely pass. In reality, in 90+% of cases where their pronouns are used, people are doing it because it's considered polite, or to avoid confrontation, or out of fear of losing their job. It's just a formality, everyone knows it's a crazy dude in a dress, we're just humoring them.

They're correct in the logic that you laid out, but they get so pissed off over it because people feel comfortable 'revoking' Chris's pronoun precisely because of this 'formality' situation that exists: you don't have to be polite to people who are literal motherfuckers, so people don't lie to bend reality for his sake. A normal dude wouldn't be offended by someone misgendering Bundy because a normal dude isn't neurotic, and hung up on the idea that the rest of the world sees him as a dude. However, that's exactly how some hulking shemale with linebacker shoulders feels about the situation, and so they feel very threatened by any hint of the real underlying situation. If everyone is just humoring them, they're a pathetic spectacle, not stunning and brave.

Gonna power-level a bit here but it relates to Chris

Spoiler: Long Comment.

The entire movement is a power grab by psychotic degenerates who've been thrown away by society and want power over you as revenge. Fundamentally, their movement is about controlling others to even break the rules of grammar for them. If you control what people say, you begin to control what they think.

Pronouns are a tool of language, you don't get to chose them, they're means to describe a person/place or thing. "They and Them" can only be used to address a single "Hypothetical" person/s. Get a person to misuse these commonly and you're basically rewriting their reality and attempting to get them to capitulate to you. Get enough loud people to do it, and spread them out and from there it's group psychology. The movement knows this, but most of them are too psychotic to care - after all the whole thing is an exercise in getting people to lick their boots. If they cant get you to capitulate, they have to go after the next generation who're too young to mentally defend themselves and have no personal autonomy to stand up to the movement as they've become authority figures. Even then, this is only allowed to get so far because it's being bankrolled by individuals with subversive interests.

Like you said, people don't really believe any of their bullshit, and this infuriates the movement. When people call Chris "he" it means they're not going to "Play pretend" with Chris because he's morally abhorrent - but that just means they're playing pretend with every troon, now doesn't it? That just means they're not really in as much control as they think they are, doesn't it? They're smart enough to realize they have to maintain the illusion for everyone or the whole thing falls apart, and they'll be forced to realize they're just really nasty, pathological perverts - so Plan B: go after the kiddies.

Obviously, they're also desperate to lie to themselves, but I believe we all know deep down when we're fucking up, no matter how messed up in the head you are. If you do suffer legitimate dysphoria and want help, more power to you, but I'm not going to break language or live a lie to suit your pathological delusions. Playing along with mental illness is dangerous and the less we do it, and the more we treat these people like the suffering mental-cases they are, the better for everyone.

Now, refer to Chris. The quintessential beta. Funny how so much of this just naturally applies to him, right? He couldn't rape Megan like he wanted cause she'd kick his ass, so He went after Barb but only when she was too frail to stop him and he had control of her finances. He does that incel thing where he thinks being "nice" and giving gifts entitles him to china (Which itself is a power-mechanism through debt). Down to his very delusions of being Mayor of CWCville. He hates other men, because men show him just how little control he has. Obviously, he puts his own autistic spin on it, but it's all there in spades. Hell, it seems he never really cared about the infamy, just that he couldn't control the narrative on himself.

Is it wrong to want to control your life and interactions? No. It's normal. But you must control yourself before you can "control" anything else. These people don't want to control themselves. They want to control you and attack standards to make themselves look better. That's the problem. Welcome to reality, Chris. Nobody's going to play along. You're just a weird dude with long hair in a Jail of Fail.

 

[Squirrelcop]

I respect pronouns whenever I feel its appropriate. When someone is suffering from gender dysphoria and sees no way out after countless therapy sessions than to get the help they need (i.e. hormons and such), I respect that and I respect their pronouns, because it was their choice and their struggle.

But when you gonna change your gender because "being a man is super fucking hard for me you guize", only to win competitions real (*cough* Lia Thomas *cough*) and fake (any retard who seeks clout/underage pussy) you dont deserve the benefit of the doubt. Most somewhat sane people see it this way, I believe, even most transgender people who just want to be left in peace and dont scream retardedly into the twitter void. Or, yknow, wanna diddle people against their will.

Chris fucked his mom because even after trannying the fuck out he couldnt get any other pussy. Thats fact. He is the same predatory scum in the trans community as Jessica Yanniv and Synthia the Dragoness, assholes who hide behind their gender identities to get away with being sexpests.

 

[Got Milk!]

Chris-Chan was never a she to begin with. As I see it, Chris was so desperate for a woman, he started to believe he was once.

There's numerous tranny post screenshots that say things to the effect of "I'm the (insert adjective i.e. goth, submissive, slutty etc) girlfriend I've always wanted".

So it definitely occurs in those circles

Edit: Duke Nukem beat me to it but same idea

 

[Undersideofcwcspillow]

What's really sad is that Chris didn't have to become a woman to get laid. He could have gotten fucked at any time in his life. There are WAY uglier and grosser people than Chris who get laid and develop happy, loving relationships. Chris's problem is that no woman is good enough for him. The women who would fuck Chris aren't 18 year old, 110lb blonde virgins.

I guarantee there is some slightly overweight girl into MLP who maybe has thin hair or acne or something, who would have totally fucked Chris, but because she ism't conventionally attractive, he overlooked her.

Hell, there was the girl at MAGfest who was freaking out over Chris touching her hand. She totally would have fucked Chris.

Chris thought he needed to become a woman and a "lesbian" to get some china, but the reality is he just needed to turn the lights off, put a bag over some butterface's head, and lower his fucking standards.

 

[AnOminous]

Well this actually says a fair bit in that they are willing to accept Chris as trans, in that it is uncharacteristic integrity.

At least they are willing to stick by their ideology, to the point of accepting someone who has shown themselves to be not above the worst taboos.

It's more that so many of them are frauds that they don't want to attract even more attention to this, so there's an unspoken rule they put up with the scams, grifts, perversions, lies, and other bullshit from fellow troons, lest they be cannibalized themselves.

 

[FinnSven]

What's really sad is that Chris didn't have to become a woman to get laid. He could have gotten fucked at any time in his life. There are WAY uglier and grosser people than Chris who get laid and develop happy, loving relationships. Chris's problem is that no woman is good enough for him. The women who would fuck Chris aren't 18 year old, 110lb blonde virgins.

I guarantee there is some slightly overweight girl into MLP who maybe has thin hair or acne or something, who would have totally fucked Chris, but because she ism't conventionally attractive, he overlooked her.

Hell, there was the girl at MAGfest who was freaking out over Chris touching her hand. She totally would have fucked Chris.

Chris thought he needed to become a woman and a "lesbian" to get some china, but the reality is he just needed to turn the lights off, put a bag over some butterface's head, and lower his fucking standards.

I think the same can be said for the majority of incels.

It’s not that hard to lower your standards enough to at least fuck some woman, even if she is a screaming harpy with no teeth, a fuck is a fuck when one needs a slump breaker. Then once a guy has shed the V plates, it gets easier to get along with more and less desperate women.
Hell, even buying a hooker to show themselves that sex is not as big a deal as it’s hyped up to be.

Chris did that at least, and to be fair to him after that he was starting to be more social and less of a joke.

The guys who never understand and just continue on the incel path, expecting pretty girls to be like the women they see in fiction, be they manic pixie girls, or seven of nine, maybe even cheerleaders who are sick of the jocks and looking for a man with character.

How many of these incels are only children, I wonder? Or if they have siblings, is there a big age gap, they live with separate parents or what?

I ask because having a sibling usually gives a person at least one direct peer who can help them understand social interaction to a certain extent.
Especially if they have at least one sibling of the opposite sex.
If nothing else it teaches a person that not everyone agrees with them all the time.

 

[Ophelia]

If Chris was going to be restricted from sending leters while in jail, they most likely would have done it from day one.

Would they preemptively deny his right to send and receive mail? I think if the hospital says, “This idiot shouldn’t be communicating with those other idiots,” it would make a difference.

I suppose the content might be nice but at some point, the lulz train is over here, and we may have hit that point and gone past it.

I mostly want an idea of what has happened. If a cwcism or two is thrown in, great! If not, just Chris existing makes me laugh. I’ve got Pat for the prime laughter and Chris for the weirdness.


Regarding incels, it’s their personalities which prevent them from having a relationship with a woman. Eliot Roger was rich, privileged with Hollywood connections, and was California cute. There are absolutely girls who are into guys like that. But he was boring and depressing while thinking women should fall at his feet because he exists. Women hate that. I wouldn’t wish an incel on anyone.

 

[Squirrelcop]

But the reality is he just needed to turn the lights off, put a bag over some butterface's head, and lower his fucking standards.

Well uh he did exactly that, tho...