Orbiter 🏳️‍🌈🐱 Nick Fuentes / Nicholas Joseph Fuentes / der America First Pürrer / "Nick the Knife" - CatboyKami's ex. Flipped fed asset after January 6th. Groypers are pardoned for January 6th, still a fag. Kept Ali Akbar, brown muslim boy-hungry pedophile, around groypers knowing what he was. Hates white women more than blacks and jews.

[Lorne Armstrong]

You don’t go to the cops. You get a bunch of trusted Groypers together sit him down find out what he did, and the. You beat the shit out of him if he does appear guilty.

That’s what a healthy white organization does.

You’d trust a Groyper? Look at their “leaders”, the fruits don’t fall far from the tree.

 

[Evilronald]

So is Nick pro-rapist or anti-rapist? He does say criminals are based and he hates women, so I could see it. Maybe he’s a fluffer and likes to clean off his rapists after they have their way with the women Nick chooses for them?

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

You’d trust a Groyper? Look at their “leaders”, the fruits don’t fall far from the tree.

There are some with good instincts just they lack father figures. That’s why they need guidance from the older millenials and Gen Xers on TRS.

Instead they think that they know everything and older generations have nothing to offer them. Unless the older generation licks their boots (Beardson, frannsen, Vince James, Malkin)

 

[Morwyn]

They were still very young and doing semi volunteer work for an uWuvement and none of them seemed to know what they were doing, underpaying is kinda expected. Withholding money is another story.

I suppose that's fair. I guess I misinterpreted exactly what and how much they were actually doing, though minimum wage is still kind of scummy for that in my opinion.

 

[PlatosYoungerBrother]

I mentioned his voice differences in my first post. Here's the archive which is not in that post (his voice starts at 12:40):

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As a chameleon, he blends into whatever environment he's in. When he was on Tara McCarthy's show, Franssen was for abortion because the alt-right was against non-white babies (who are reproducing more than white ones) and tard babies.

Franssen says "he spoke to me as an equal, as a fellow traveler". That's a freemasonic phrase to identify if someone else is a freemason.

"Are you a traveler"
"I am a fellow traveler"

They're also really into egalitarianism and "equality", so maybe there's some freemason lore on Franssen. If anyone knows places he lived, you should look up the masonic lodges there and see if he's in any photos. That's how I found Dalton way back before he was friends with Nick.

Might be a long shot but I thought it was worth mentioning. It wouldn't be the craziest thing this guy has done.

 

[AF Defector]

Any idea how close vincent james is to leaving af? Apart from the time he told retarded lies about ram he seems like a pretty normal decent guy

Truthfully, Vince doesn't have any interactions with the intern team, so I can't give you a definitive answer on it either way.

I have been hearing rumors though that it seems like he has been trying to distance himself but who really knows. I'm sure Nick's going to read these, and then encourage Vince to come out saying how much he still loves and supports AF/Nick, etc.

Are there receipts? For you or any of the other defectors? Claims themselves can only go so far.

I guess you missed the part of my initial statement where I said I won't be giving away anything that could lead to my dox. If you are skeptical to believe me, I completely understand, but for the time being, I can't give you anything personal from myself. I am still an intern, I haven't officially left yet - if I was to decide to leave two days after Jaden and Simon's big showing, I would be considered a complete traitor in the eyes of Nick and others, and they would certainly begin to aim retaliation attacks on me (and others) for leaving.

Few of us have our own chats where we have been discussing options on how to get out of the internship the right way, without Nick sending the fags of the sussy squad on our asses (literally and figuratively). I will keep you all posted on how this planning is going.

 

[Under Arrest]

He desperately needs a strong cat man in his life who can take care of sexual and emotional needs.

 

[AF Defector]

We all know it's unironically going to be Kai the Spy.

It's not going to be Kai, at least yet. Nick has continuously shit talked Kai behind his back, in different groupchats, and we can all see Kai is beginning to try and move away.

Bigger name than Kai is planning on being on the Casino, but I wouldn't be surprised if Kai makes a big move to get out of AF and off Cozy in the coming days/weeks.

 

[Fivehead]

This is actually pretty concrete proof of manipulated view counts. The api is the entry point to their backend, and any response is going to be pulled directly from their db. Unless someone within cozy explicitly set up a junk endpoint to purposefully send back bad data, the peak viewer counts in that json are likely the real ones, and the displayed viewer count is bullshit.

Regardless of whether or not Simon's evidence is compelling; everyone knows the view counts are bullshit. Even Kai and Paul Town said the other day that Nick's view counts seem "sussy baka".

Cozy will have 30 or so viewers on Alex Jones' channel, maybe a couple hundo on Dalton's but literally the second Nick's lobby goes live he has 6,000 with a dead chat (unless the knife bots are activated, of course). It makes no sense and many people have seen it happen.

Nick is nowhere near his popularity of 2019/2020. There's no way he's getting consistently 6-7k viewers a night on an alt-platform for his boring ass show and everybody knows this.

 

[LanceHaver]

Fucking delusional niggas

 

[MunsterCheese]

They were still very young and doing semi volunteer work for an uWuvement and none of them seemed to know what they were doing, underpaying is kinda expected. Withholding money is another story.

Yup. If Nick is threatening legal action and I were in those guy's shoes, this is the first thing I would go for. Normal states have some sort of employment board that will dish out damages for unpaid wages. I am fairly certain that they would love to nail a guy like Fuentes to the wall.

https://www.illinoislegalaid.org/legal-information/starting-case-get-back-unpaid-wages

My best guess is that Fuentes income funds are now limited if they were not already limited before this. So when nick threatens legal action, he will be doing so out of a shrinking pool of money that is not going to be replaced. And if he has been doing shit like sinking $70k on a new car and other splurges I wouldn't be surprised if this zoomer doesn't know how to manage his money wisely.

 

[Total Groyper Death]

These last two streams were super cringe. Just lost a ton of respect for this guy. I was expecting him to at least address the most powerful claims, i.e. the ones about the $70k car and lying about the $500k, and the one about him shutting down funding for AF congressional campaigns. If these claims are true he's a grifter and a thief, and this gay-ass nigger rap stream where he cries like his dog died with sunglasses on and doesn't say anything was weak as fuck. Very sad I actually agree with most of you now that this shit is over -- he has surely lost any high quality fans he had, now he might have a slowly rotting corpse of 14 year old incels but AF is probably done for. Very sad honestly, I trusted this guy.

I've been a lurker on Kiwi for a couple years, but I registered to quote the above for emphasis and weigh in with my two cents.

I am going to try and stay objective as I can but with the whirlwind of claims and topics there is too much hearsay to say much of anything is definitive at this point. I'm going to address things from a general perspective. I'll be referencing the Kino Casino video and Nick's streams/telegram.

01. Someone here is clearly lying
Nick, Jaden, Simon, or a combination of all three. This begs the question of motivation and what each party stands to gain from lying.

02. Simon's motivation
This guy doesn't strike me as particularly bright - I don't care how virtuous your pursuit of AF goals were, getting paid minimum wage with a wife and two children is insanity. However, he does strike me has a humble, noble, and in a state of good spirituality, unlike Nick. I don't know much about Simon but I think his affect suggests he is being truthful.

03. Jaden's motivation
I think Jaden is earnest in his interest in stepping away from AF, and he did so with a cordial "stepping down" post on Telegram. I believe he took the high road when all this started. However, Jaden being so close to the situation may have an axe to grind and has fired some shots below the belt against Nick. Simon and Jaden's stories seem to line up and paint a picture of behavior we've actually already seen from Nick ie Patrick Casey, and others. Nick is the one instigating all of this, and I don't think Jaden has much to gain from this situation either. I don't know if Jaden is lying, but I think embellishing some aspects are present.

04. Nick's motivation
Nick freely admits he's an egomaniac and narcissist. It would seem to me, he's the only one that has much to gain from airing out the dirty laundry. Viewcount, people talking about him, attention, traffic to cozy. As an avid listener of Nick since the groyper wars, I am led to believe Nick sees this as a competition and an opportunity to "crush an enemy" with a scorched earth Machiavellian approach - aka destroy, do not wound. In his eyes, the end justifies the means and is willing to do anything to hurt these people who he know longer sees as allies.

Am I underestimating the motivation of Jaden/Simon? The pattern that I believe to be reoccurring is people around Nick end up having a fallout with him. What am I to believe? Nick's words saying that all these other people are the problem? He's the victim time and time again because of disloyal friends? Who is the common denominator of these friendship fallouts? I was literally defending Nick on other boards two days ago, because like the above quoted poster, I believed this dude. I trusted him. Politically speaking Nick has top tier opinions, and I wouldn't take that away from him, but as of Feb/March, he's really cranked down on the "women problem" and gotten a little more careless with his rhetoric. I've found myself often disagreeing with some of things he's said on his show quite frequently which was not the case since the groyper wars. I gleaned Nick wasn't going to church every Sunday because he made a big deal about going for Easter and his late night Sat streams/general schedule but the hearsay from Jaden/Simon about Nick blowing off meal time prayers and scoffing at Catholic prayer circles was salt in the wound. In defense of Nick, being a young millionaire with a huge fanbase that "rely" on you can really fuck with your head and from a psychological standpoint I think that one ingredient of many that's going into his recipe for erratic behavior which is my last point:

The two streams of him listening to nigger "music" and looking simultaneously butthurt and smug looks a lot to me like someone crying out in pain as he strikes back. I don't think these streams had the effect the thought they would.

Other random thoughts:
- Nick getting his 500k back a year ago is big if true
- Using his money to threaten frivolous lawsuits to bury Simon (and others) is big if true and would raise some serious questions of Nick's morality
- One thing I noticed before all this drama was his "Praise god" Telegram post was implying he just found out he's off the no fly list. A mere three hours later he's on a plane? Sus
- The fat retard in the top left of the Kino Casino literally has boobs and sounds gay. He's really reveling in the downfall of Nick which is poor posture and I don't like him.
- Same thought on bearded guy. Didn't have a lot to say because I think he was drunk.
- Claims of view count manipulation are big if true, but I actually side with Nick here. He hit 30k on Dlive during Nov 2020 election results. Are we questioning Dlive metrics too? Him getting 5-8k peak is not unreasonable. Outside analytic websites show cozy is getting a lot of traffic.
- Nick got owned by KaiClips. Nick's rhetoric on inceldom and women is teethe grindingly cringe. We need to encourage young white men to date and have children, not hate women you fucking faggot. Nick bitches about women in politics then constantly props up Michelle Malkin, Wendy Rogers and Marjorie Taylor? How does that make sense?

oh and hey Nicholas:
I am not choosing a side here (yet) because it's still evolving, but this is looking pretty fucking bad for you, Nick. Character isn't who you are when the decisions are easy, character constitutes the choices a man makes when things are tough. Like you said on your show the other week about humility, this whole drama is an opportunity for you to eat a slice of humble pie, bro. Privately repent, privately settle things with Jaden and Simon, then the three of you come together publicly and you apologize. Own your mistakes, correct course, reexamine your ethics, and fly low for a little while.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

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Xanderhal was streamsniping (not really sniping but still) the entire Kino Casino stream last night on Fuentes

 

[PlatosYoungerBrother]

Sorry for not posting these earlier but I thought it's better late than never. These are some of the highlights I sniped from Alberto's chat. I would periodically hop on to see what groypers were thinking and wow was it ever a mess.


On Nick doxing people:


On AF being a cult:


Cult part 2:


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?????? part 2:


The chat going to flag the video:


Jaden kissing a girl:


Mad at John Doyle:


Kai trying to do damage control:


When Jaden said Nick wore a mask everywhere (this one is my personal favorite):


My face when I join a cult of catboys and edrama:

 

[AF Defector]

How many people left after the KC episode? Did they leave at all once or one by one?
Does nick even have people questioning him anymore?

A small number of people have left groupchats, but for the time being, almost everyone on the inside is going with the usual cope.

"Nick got his money back? That's so based!" "Nick treated his higher ups like shit, and threatened the feds and doxxing? That's so based fuck these guys!"

It's all very predictable; Nick himself even admits he has a cult following, and the Groypers talk about how based it is, but lack the IQ necessary to reflect on the implications. Nick is seen as the second coming of Christ, and it would be unthinkable to betray him like Judas.

So to answer your question, there hasn't been a mass exodus within the interns, or Nicks confidants as of yet, and truthfully that will probably never happen - Nick will always have a core group of sycophants who can never recognize his wrongdoings.

There are some groupchats that I'm in where a number of us have discussed our options and plans for leaving, but all of that is still pending. We will likely delay until this blows over, somewhat, to hopefully take some of the heat off of us when we do finally get out.

 

[Cocktimus prime]

I remember during the TPUSA drama that it seemed to wind down when they had the one event where a white nationalist who likes crossdressing showed up with his friends and they all basically got shut down by Kirk who had finally built up responses to the lunacy and also realized he could have mics turns off. It was a bit noteworthy since it drew some attention to how little of the TPUSA trolling had to do with Nick, it was just these random white nationalist groups doing it on their own and inviting Nick to cheer them on while he himself was blocked out of the events.

So it doesn't even seem like he did anything himself against Kirk, he was just cheering on the others that attempted to annoy people at events by complaining about gays and Israel. I feel like this was pretty much him becoming white nationalists' Greta Thunberg who were eager to prop him up as the face of their movements.

Kirk was getting felted till nick got involved the questions were going on for months before a single groyper got involved. Kirks kill shot was always too ask these faggots if they were gonna vote for trump and they fell apart worse than chinese buildings in a live leak video

 

[Evilronald]

Sorry for not posting these earlier but I thought it's better late than never. These are some of the highlights I sniped from Alberto's chat. I would periodically hop on to see what groypers were thinking and wow was it ever a mess.


On Nick doxing people:
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On AF being a cult:
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Cult part 2:
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?????? part 2:
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The chat going to flag the video:
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Jaden kissing a girl:
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Mad at John Doyle:
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Kai trying to do damage control:
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When Jaden said Nick wore a mask everywhere (this one is my personal favorite):
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My face when I join a cult of catboys and edrama:
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I didn’t realize Simps got any attention from women, usually they just orbit and don’t get anything. It’s pretty hilarious that Jaden got pussy before Nick. I’m surprised Milo didn’t try to get a hooker to fuck Nick, or maybe he did and that explains his hatred of women.

 

[FightenGnome]

Kirk was getting felted till nick got involved the questions were going on for months before a single groyper got involved. Kirks kill shot was always too ask these faggots if they were gonna vote for trump and they fell apart worse than chinese buildings in a live leak video

A lot of people don't remember the lore and credit Nick, when in fact the first time it happened and maybe even the second time, Nick had nothing to do with it.

 

[Cocktimus prime]

A lot of people don't remember the lore and credit Nick, when in fact the first time it happened and maybe even the second time, Nick had nothing to do with it.

Peterstein was gettin questioned like this almost a year prior. Nick is trend chaser and despite pretending too hate them desperately cribs striker and enoch's notes on shit. The first people doing this shit had murdoch murdoch shirts and shit and trs hats. Nick actually ruined it.

 

[Fake Steve Franssen]

So you’re telling me that Nick’s right hand man who worked closely with him for 5 years straight wasn’t able to provide one screenshot? One voice/video recording? To back up anything he said?

When Nick had a conflict with Richard Spencer he had a voice recording of Spencer ready to show.

Yet here there is nothing? And this is supposed to be the end of AF? Lol

"Wow, what a faggot. He recorded conversations? So he was out to get AF from the start!" - @Ipsum_Esse