Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

A friend of mine told me that it halts your progression by stopping the bar from rolling out of your hands as easily and will lead to muscle imbalances.
I was told it’s because if you fuck it up you could get a bicep blown out.
I use straps for my heavier sets, personally.
 
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I don't think you need to worry about blowing a bicep if you're full natty brah for life, in fact of all the tears I've seen on youtube, I think all of them were enhanced, you're just not going to be pulling enough weight as a natty to tear a muscle or tendon 99.999% of the time unless you do something really stupid.
 
I don't think you need to worry about blowing a bicep if you're full natty brah for life, in fact of all the tears I've seen on youtube, I think all of them were enhanced, you're just not going to be pulling enough weight as a natty to tear a muscle or tendon 99.999% of the time unless you do something really stupid.
Being enhanced immediately makes you more at risk of injury, because when on AAS your muscles can outpace your tendons and all that in strength gains, it's still good practice to at the very least to try real hard and not engage your biceps at all with a mixed grip deadlift.
I don't care how natty or not you are, it's just a bit too risky if you move respectable weight.
 
I've recently gone up from 1200cal a day to 2200cal now that I've lost the majority of my body fat...feeling/looking bloated IS normal before my muscles start growing with such a huge increase....right?

Worried I am being retarded and going to undo all my efforts of weightloss but I'm at the point where I'm starting to see small muscles but want them to be bigger, so I need more food.
 
You won't see huge increases without steroids. Instead of doubling your intake straight off the bat I'd gradually increase my calorie intake weekly until I see that I've started gaining weight. There's a limit to how much muscle you can pack on per week, so if you go overboard you'll just get fat. Again, unless you're taking steroids. Hollywood actors who pack on a bunch of muscles rapidly for a role aren't doing it without 'assistance'.

Note that you'll still gain some fat doing a slow bulk, just as you'll lose some muscle cutting, but it won't be nearly as extreme.
 
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Is there any way to speed up my muscle recovery? Specifically, when they hurt for a day or two after exercising. And even more specifically, when I may possibly have done something retarded and they hurt for longer than that.

Heat? Ice? Ibuprofen? Crack?
 
Is there any way to speed up my muscle recovery? Specifically, when they hurt for a day or two after exercising. And even more specifically, when I may possibly have done something retarded and they hurt for longer than that.

Heat? Ice? Ibuprofen? Crack?
Eat protein after you workout, not the 30 minute window that’s nonsense but in a reasonable amount of time.
Stretch after you workout.
And you’ll get less sore the better you get at working out.
 
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I found I recovered a lot better after I had started taking creatine. I still have my days of soreness but it is no where near as bad as when I started last year and I couldn't walk properly and with out immense pain the day after leg days.
 
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Is there any way to speed up my muscle recovery? Specifically, when they hurt for a day or two after exercising. And even more specifically, when I may possibly have done something retarded and they hurt for longer than that.

Heat? Ice? Ibuprofen? Crack?

Studies have shown that if you consume carbs equivalent to a can of soda, but actual glucose, not garbage fructose, within a reasonable window after exercise it can enhance the restoration of glycogen stores in the muscles.

Interestingly, with anti-inflammatories, it can actually harm the process. The inflammation is actually an essential part of the process of restoration of muscle fibrils, and subsequent hypertrophy.
 
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Weightlifting as a concept is such a product of faggotry it's truly incredible.

How does a man look at his lack of muscle or strength and instead of thinking to himself "I need to better fulfill my role as a man by using my body and muscle more to complete worthwhile tasks", instead think "I should travel to somewhere that's known to be a gathering place for homosexuals to gain awkwardly distributed muscle that never actually turns out to be useful on a day to day basis and doesn't impress women any more than organic working muscle distribution, but will probably impress other insecure guys"?

It's legitimately disgraceful. Flabbiness is a symptom of poor and aimless lifestyle, not a problem unto itself. Incels love both weightlifting and transexualism, both involve consumption of hormones, both involve trying to take advantage of shallow conventions to embody a social role you aren't fit to fill...
Muscles are meant to be tools to help you accomplish things, not help you encourage other men to check out your lats then sodomize you in the locker room.

Is there any way to speed up my muscle recovery? Specifically, when they hurt for a day or two after exercising. And even more specifically, when I may possibly have done something retarded and they hurt for longer than that.

Heat? Ice? Ibuprofen? Crack?
Well this depends on why you're exercising.

@Manul Otocolobus is right, anyone who's familiar with extreme bodybuilding practices like blood flow restriction training can tell you that if you're looking exclusively to build muscle a buildup of lactic acid and inflammation factors is important. To oversimplify things you need your body to believe that you need a greater repository of available burst strength at any given time, with a major indicator being the inability to be appropriately oxygenated on the fly. Lack of oxygenation produces lactic acid, which everyone knows is what makes your shit burn. Your shit burning is a sign to your body that it needs more muscle. Even beta adrenal agonists (which reduce peripheral blood flow) like albuterol have a long history in body building.
Now there's obviously much more to it, but essentially the hurt is what leads to muscle growth.

On the other hand, if you're looking for actual recovery like someone who isn't a fucking retard who wants to be in a wheelchair by 45 then you should absolutely focus on the consumption of antioxidant/anti-inflammatory substances and manage your blood pressure. That will be far more beneficial to your health and mental state overall.

I'd recommend the latter, I don't understand why you'd put more weight in muscle mass on yourself than you have to, that's just going to weigh you down and increase cardiovascular load, wear out your joints, reduce your agility...but I undersand. It's a little like women who get outrageous breast implants: sure, it's crippling and not useful for anything and will wear your body out much faster, but that's a fair price to get tons of guys to screw you from behind.
 
Weightlifting as a concept is such a product of faggotry it's truly incredible.

How does a man look at his lack of muscle or strength and instead of thinking to himself "I need to better fulfill my role as a man by using my body and muscle more to complete worthwhile tasks", instead think "I should travel to somewhere that's known to be a gathering place for homosexuals to gain awkwardly distributed muscle that never actually turns out to be useful on a day to day basis and doesn't impress women any more than organic working muscle distribution, but will probably impress other insecure guys"?

It's legitimately disgraceful. Flabbiness is a symptom of poor and aimless lifestyle, not a problem unto itself. Incels love both weightlifting and transexualism, both involve consumption of hormones, both involve trying to take advantage of shallow conventions to embody a social role you aren't fit to fill...
Muscles are meant to be tools to help you accomplish things, not help you encourage other men to check out your lats then sodomize you in the locker room.


Well this depends on why you're exercising.

@Manul Otocolobus is right, anyone who's familiar with extreme bodybuilding practices like blood flow restriction training can tell you that if you're looking exclusively to build muscle a buildup of lactic acid and inflammation factors is important. To oversimplify things you need your body to believe that you need a greater repository of available burst strength at any given time, with a major indicator being the inability to be appropriately oxygenated on the fly. Lack of oxygenation produces lactic acid, which everyone knows is what makes your shit burn. Your shit burning is a sign to your body that it needs more muscle. Even beta adrenal agonists (which reduce peripheral blood flow) like albuterol have a long history in body building.
Now there's obviously much more to it, but essentially the hurt is what leads to muscle growth.

On the other hand, if you're looking for actual recovery like someone who isn't a fucking retard who wants to be in a wheelchair by 45 then you should absolutely focus on the consumption of antioxidant/anti-inflammatory substances and manage your blood pressure. That will be far more beneficial to your health and mental state overall.

I'd recommend the latter, I don't understand why you'd put more weight in muscle mass on yourself than you have to, that's just going to weigh you down and increase cardiovascular load, wear out your joints, reduce your agility...but I undersand. It's a little like women who get outrageous breast implants: sure, it's crippling and not useful for anything and will wear your body out much faster, but that's a fair price to get tons of guys to screw you from behind.
Post physique fag.
 
Weightlifting as a concept is such a product of faggotry it's truly incredible.
So you're a faggot if you take interest in maximizing the capabilities of your muscles?

Sounds like you're the type of "guy" who tried using packs of lemonade as dumbbells.
 
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I do agree however, that from a utilitarian standpoint, there's a legit reasoning for being swole. It's why I have been trying different approaches for pull-ups and chin-ups; weighted and grenade pull-ups, for instance. It's one thing to look strong, but it's pointless if you aren't actually strong.

EDIT: it's why I think that, pound for pound, Franco Columbu was the best classic bodybuilder, while also being a strongman. He not only looked the part, he was legit strong.


EDIT 2: From the man himself. I admit that am getting good at pull-ups and chin-ups, but I'll put even more emphasis on getting clean, perfect chin-ups with no weight at all (don't over-extend your arms, explode from the bottom, go all the way up and squeeze, hold for 1 second, then slow controlled descent counting to 3, then start over), before adding any more weight to it.


Arnie doing weighted pull-ups with strict form, that's what I am going for.

 
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A friend of mine told me that it halts your progression by stopping the bar from rolling out of your hands as easily and will lead to muscle imbalances.
Yea that's fair but, also grip gets stronger doing trad, after about 255 I mix it up, but I want clean pulls and reps I probably could get more but diff strokes diff folks. But yes go as hard as you can normal grip imho.

Friend got me on typewriter pull ups. I'm going to stop doing them so I have the upper body to strangle them, my lord rough.

Also sore from rubgy.

In re: creatine, if it works use it for sure for me i just got bloated on it.
 
Weightlifting as a concept is such a product of faggotry it's truly incredible.

How does a man look at his lack of muscle or strength and instead of thinking to himself "I need to better fulfill my role as a man by using my body and muscle more to complete worthwhile tasks", instead think "I should travel to somewhere that's known to be a gathering place for homosexuals to gain awkwardly distributed muscle that never actually turns out to be useful on a day to day basis and doesn't impress women any more than organic working muscle distribution, but will probably impress other insecure guys"?

It's legitimately disgraceful. Flabbiness is a symptom of poor and aimless lifestyle, not a problem unto itself. Incels love both weightlifting and transexualism, both involve consumption of hormones, both involve trying to take advantage of shallow conventions to embody a social role you aren't fit to fill...
Muscles are meant to be tools to help you accomplish things, not help you encourage other men to check out your lats then sodomize you in the locker room.


Well this depends on why you're exercising.

@Manul Otocolobus is right, anyone who's familiar with extreme bodybuilding practices like blood flow restriction training can tell you that if you're looking exclusively to build muscle a buildup of lactic acid and inflammation factors is important. To oversimplify things you need your body to believe that you need a greater repository of available burst strength at any given time, with a major indicator being the inability to be appropriately oxygenated on the fly. Lack of oxygenation produces lactic acid, which everyone knows is what makes your shit burn. Your shit burning is a sign to your body that it needs more muscle. Even beta adrenal agonists (which reduce peripheral blood flow) like albuterol have a long history in body building.
Now there's obviously much more to it, but essentially the hurt is what leads to muscle growth.

On the other hand, if you're looking for actual recovery like someone who isn't a fucking retard who wants to be in a wheelchair by 45 then you should absolutely focus on the consumption of antioxidant/anti-inflammatory substances and manage your blood pressure. That will be far more beneficial to your health and mental state overall.

I'd recommend the latter, I don't understand why you'd put more weight in muscle mass on yourself than you have to, that's just going to weigh you down and increase cardiovascular load, wear out your joints, reduce your agility...but I undersand. It's a little like women who get outrageous breast implants: sure, it's crippling and not useful for anything and will wear your body out much faster, but that's a fair price to get tons of guys to screw you from behind.
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