The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

You're a stupid faggot.

The problem wasn't that the government let people riot, it was that they didn't let people defend themselves. How the fuck does a person look at the rittenhouse trial and the amount of work it took to get that guy off, and the corruption on the prosecutor's side, and this random 17 year old's absolute superiority with a firearm vs. the mobs and think "Clearly the problem here is a lack of governmental involvement"? And even that little bit of watching their people get turned to swiss cheese without punishment was enough to seriously, seriously dampen the riots.

At this point federal governmental involvement doesn't help anyone. They're a group of gangsters out to collect their dues, and unless you're necessary for their bread line you can screw yourself.
The problem was definitely that the government did not involve itself. No one would defend someone shooting a man for breaking a window. There's not much else you can do to defend your property. No, that was a problem that could only have been solved by the city, not state or federal government. But the cities and their prosecutors did nothing.
 
Unironically yes. Why do you luv black babbies so much but are against the benefits they're going to need?
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If you consider "politically opposed to the killing of babies, including nigbies" to be love, sure. I just think everyone deserves a chance at life. For niggers, preferably they get their chance far away from me, like in Africa.

Yes. Would you want to live that way? What if society crashed? They would be instantly eaten by wolves.
They're better off with the wolves than you libtards, frankly.

read my above post. do you think that it’s morally right to force someone who can’t even speak or move to be stuck in a vegetative state for years? you lack any nuance, accepting that it’s time to let go isn’t the same as going up to a random person and shooting them in the head. there’s a point where you need to let go because they can’t keep someone alive when it’s more humane to kill them.
First of all, even if I agreed, those are rare exceptions. Most people aren't born in these extreme situations you're presenting. Do you agree that only those cases should be approved for abortion? No? Then you're pointing to these cases for NO good reason except as a talking point.
 
He didn't hate it enough to commit suicide.
No, just to be an abusive POS to his caregivers. Clearly had a complex about needing his ass wiped. Would you want that?
Maybe we'd have that technology now of people would stop murdering babies.
How? Are you unironically espousing the "they couldn't cured cancer" fallacy? Aborted fetuses have contributed a lot to medical science. Far more than the tards and niggers you insist be born.
 
First of all, even if I agreed, those are rare exceptions. Most people aren't born in these extreme situations you're presenting. Do you agree that only those cases should be approved for abortion? No? Then you're pointing to these cases for NO good reason except as a talking point.
you said there’s no reason to kill innocent people then i gave you a reason. doesn’t change my stance on abortion
 
So now you are advocating for abortion on the grounds that the child might grow up to be abusive to their spouse?
They like killing and they look down on everyone else. They are arrogant enough to think that if "society crashed" they and their anime avatar would somehow not be "eaten by wolves." These people have zero capacity for self-reflection. They're antisocial losers.
 
you said there’s no reason to kill innocent people then i gave you a reason. doesn’t change my stance on abortion
Your stance is that it's okay to abort for any reason because they're "not alive", which is not only incorrect but immoral. If you can justify the average case, then we can talk fringe cases.

To humor you, however, even disabled people deserve life. Don't get distracted by that though, let's see you justify the bulk of abortions (medically unnecessary, elective abortions of healthy babies).
 
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"Parasitism is a close relationship between species, where one organism, the parasite, lives on or inside another organism, the host, causing it some harm, and is adapted structurally to this way of life."

An unborn member of any species relies on its mother for life but it cannot by definition be a parasite because a parasite is a member of another species.
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a fetus still acts just like a parasite.
No, it acts like a fetus. Even if you observe some superficial similarities between the two things, that does not make them the same thing. For instance, you demonstrate the intelligence of a gerbil. This does not make you equivalent- morally, scientifically, legally- to a gerbil.
 
No, it acts like a fetus. Even if you observe some superficial similarities between the two things, that does not make them the same thing. For instance, you demonstrate the intelligence of a gerbil. This does not make you equivalent- morally, scientifically, legally- to a gerbil.
Tell me Einstein, how is a fetus not similar to a parasite (aside from the species thing)?
 
Tell me Einstein, how is a fetus not similar to a parasite (aside from the species thing)?
I didn't say they aren't similar. I said that having similarities does not make them the same for any scientific, moral, or legal purpose.

Their similarities are very superficial- they live inside somebody else and take her nutrients. But a parasite is an unhealthy aberration to the host organism. Unborn young are part of the natural life cycle of the organism. Emotionally not wanting to reproduce is not the same thing as being injured ie as by a tapeworm. Pregnancy complications are often originating from the mother's side, threatening the fetus, rather than vice versa. Even the ones that threaten the mother's well-being as well are most often malfunctions of her own systems in response to the pregnancy, overreactions. It isn't the "baby threatening her life" it is the pregnancy process going wrong and threatening both.
 
I didn't say they aren't similar. I said that having similarities does not make them the same for any scientific, moral, or legal purpose.
According to who?

Their similarities are very superficial- they live inside somebody else and take her nutrients. But a parasite is an unhealthy aberration to the host organism. Unborn young are part of the natural life cycle of the organism.
Then why are infant and maternal mortality rates so high when there is no medical help available? Also, natural doesn't always mean good. Parasites are natural. So is cancer.
Emotionally not wanting to reproduce is not the same thing as being injured ie as by a tapeworm. Pregnancy complications are often originating from the mother's side, threatening the fetus, rather than vice versa. Even the ones that threaten the mother's well-being as well are most often malfunctions of her own systems in response to the pregnancy, overreactions. It isn't the "baby threatening her life" it is the pregnancy process going wrong and threatening both.
The fetus is disrupting her immune system. Your immune system's job is to keep you from getting poisoned and dying. I'd trust it.
 
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