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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Lol, Rightoids are NPCs they just take their programming from a different set of grifters like Ian Miles-Cheong instead of ContraPoints or whatever is the name of that twitch champagne commie.
It's even funnier when you realized the rightoids are pretending to be "great American patriots" when they're just parroting what an ugly Malaysian Chink who never set foot in the US for his entire life decided to sell them that day
 
The crying about Nazis comes from people thinking it's some amazing killshot in arguments to label someone or some side as hypocrites. But I really wish the people crying about Nazis would get it that they look about as retarded as when libs in favor of gay rights decry some right winger being gay or calling them disgusting fags.

Other weak ass arguments that have come up are things like "Ukraine has corruption" or "Ukraine wanted to be armed", which don't really work as arguments unless it can be explained why either make Russia's invasion justifiable or why it's not worthwhile to help Ukraine. Just pointing out any of these things doesn't convince anyone of why they should be against supporting Ukraine.

If you genuinely see people larping as Nazis as reason to invade or them being racist as reason to not support Ukraine, just say so or even better, why.
 
Pretty sure that's a shot of Snake Island through the thermal camera on one of those drones that are giving the Russian military so many headaches. But yeah, Old diesel boat on the bottom via sidescan sonar? Surprisingly similar look.
The first parts of the video are definitely the Island. But that one shot isn't a sidescan sonar image; it's an aerial shot from an oblique angle of an underway sub (possibly in the process of diving), with visible wake from the sail.

Because of the light distortion through the water, it's hard to see the exact silhouette, but the only subs supposedly in the Black Sea currently are Kilo-class.
Not sure about the water around Snake Island in terms of depth & visibility, but subs & whales can still be seen while fully submerged, sometimes at depths up to 50m. This is another reason why the Mediterranean & E. Pacific was extra dangerous for German & Nip subs during WW2, because Allied aircraft could still spot them submerged.
 
So the question is did they not have enough planes? Or did they not trust their air force pilots over Putins precious monkee shaped head for some reason?

Granted I don't rule out the SU-57 self destructing in a light drizzling rain.

they announced to fly "judgement day" plane - Il96 VKP, basically a "bunker" plane that has all the controls to launch nuke strikes and command all RF forces as show of force ... and then there was rain

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so basically, if you want to start nuke war against Russia you just need to do it on a rainy day.

Seriously though, with shortage of qualified pilots and spare parts, I'd not risk it.
 
Lol, Rightoids are NPCs they just take their programming from a different set of grifters like Ian Miles-Cheong instead of ContraPoints or whatever is the name of that twitch champagne commie.

They got woke super fast when their controlled opposition fuckheads got paid to change some variables in the scripting, didn't they? God damn.

Edit: Russians are trying to combine all victimhood narratives into one that's about themselves, it's their struggle against the nazis, it's their struggle against the nationalists, it's their struggle against racists, soon they'll start saying how the west is actually homophobic and russia isn't, it's a struggle being russian, they're making themselves such fucking victims I half expect all other professional victims to start demanding russia give them a russian citizenship so they can bitch and moan about how hard they have it in their struggle against the west.
You had Nick Fuentes appear on RT to whine about Russophobia the same way a shitlib would cry about islamophobia after a terrorist attack, you can't make that shit up.
 
Russia threatened Elon Musk?
This comes just minutes after Musk fired off a couple of tweets about apparently receiving a chilling message in the Russian media.
"From the testimony of the captured commander of the 36th Marine Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Colonel Dmitry Kormyankov, it turns out that the internet terminals of Elon Musk's Starlink satellite company were delivered to the militants of the Nazi Azov Battalion and the Ukrainian Marines in Mariupol by military helicopters," Musk's post reads.

"According to our information, the delivery of the Starlink equipment was carried out by the Pentagon."

"Elon Musk, thus, is involved in supplying the fascist forces in Ukraine with military communication equipment. And for this, Elon, you will be held accountable like an adult - no matter how much you'll play the fool"
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God Putin is such a beta. I stayed up late to watch the speech expecting some sort of big escalation yet all I was greeted with was fifteen minutes of butthurt projection and delusion

- Claimed he was forced into the war even though the West tried to warn him and gave him multiple offramps before the conflict started

- Claimed Russia has always sought a peaceful solution to the conflict despite doing everything in their power to delay negotiations

- ACTUALLY tried claiming that American and other western veterans were being prevented by their governments from attending this years parade as if any of them would want to attend this shitty event

- Claimed the West was threatening the Russian state with nukes even though Putin put his nuclear forces on high alert the first few days of the war (although to be fair that last one just turned out to be another one of his "brilliant" feints)

I don't think people appreciate just how scummy it was for Putin to hijack the Victory day parade like he did. He basically tried to reframe the whole thing from a victory against the Nazis to a rallying cry for his shitty failing war effort. Funnily enough he never actually said the word "Ukraine" once, only referring to them as ebil Nazis. In contrast, he mentioned Donbass like six separate times

Victory day is supposed to be a celebration of the destruction of one of the most vile and murderous regimes in world history but under Putin it has been slowly degraded into a Russian jingoistic LARP. When he first came to power, diplomats from around the world were invited to attend; Then it slowly disintegrated into Russia's close allies and now in the year 2022 we have no foreigners present at the parade. The story of Putin's Russia in a nutshell.
 
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God Putin is such a beta. I stayed up late to watch the speech expecting some sort of big escalation yet all I was greeted with was fifteen minutes of butthurt projection and delusion

- Claimed he was forced into the war even though the West tried to warn him and give him an offramp multiple times before the conflict started

- Claimed Russia has always sought a peaceful solution to the conflict despite doing everything in their power to delay negotiations

- ACTUALLY tried claiming that American and other western veterans were being prevented by their governments from attending this years parade as if any of them would want to attend this shitty event

- Claimed the West was threatening the Russian state with nukes even though Putin put his nuclear forces on high alert the first few days of the war (although to be fair that last one just turned out to be another one of his "brilliant" feints)

I don't think people appreciate just how scummy it was for Putin to hijack the Victory day parade like he did. He basically tried to reframe the whole thing from a victory against the Nazis to a rallying cry for his shitty failing war effort. Funnily enough he never actually said the word "Ukraine" once, only referring to them as ebil Nazis. In contrast, he mentioned Donbass like six separate times

Victory day is supposed to be a celebration of the destruction of one of the most vile and murderous regimes in world history but under Putin it has been slowly degraded into a Russian jingoistic LARP. When he first came to power, diplomats from around the world were invited to attend; Then it slowly disintegrated into Russia's close allies and now in the year 2022 we have no foreigners present at the parade. The story of Putin's Russia in a nutshell.
I suppose it's unsurprising he doesn't mention Ukraine as he thinks it shouldn't exist. If it had folded, he might have tolerated its existence under the some satrap like the presentday jailbird Medvedchuk, but now it is resisting quite effectively, it's clear Putin is in permanent cope, seethe and dilate mode. I honestly though that those callup papers meant a major mobilisation, but it seems just like a mobilisation of whatever number is needed to replace losses and perhaps reinforce the invasion slightly. Beta is the word for that little man.
So did Putin declare victory today like he said he wanted? Or more cope form him.

But no seriously my fellow right wingers have been pissing me off lately. their no different than retarded lefties at this point.

No, just cope. About as weak and low key as possible.

“The speech was a toxic mix of grievances, defiance and self-righteousness that we have come to expect from Putin,” said Sergey Radchenko, a Cold War historian at Johns Hopkins University in Washington. “He lives in this make-believe world where the past and the present are indistinguishable.”
 
they announced to fly "judgement day" plane - Il96 VKP, basically a "bunker" plane that has all the controls to launch nuke strikes and command all RF forces as show of force ... and then there was rain

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so basically, if you want to start nuke war against Russia you just need to do it on a rainy day.

Seriously though, with shortage of qualified pilots and spare parts, I'd not risk it.
So much rain today

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Look at the downpour.
 
Getting Serious About SEAD: European Air Forces Must Learn from the Failure of the Russian Air Force over Ukraine

The failure of the Russian air force to gain and exploit air superiority over Ukraine has been a surprise for most air power professionals. However, far from inspiring complacency, Russian failure should make Western air forces reflect honestly on how they would fare under similar circumstances.

There is a lack of granular data available on the air operations being undertaken by both sides during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, especially in open source. To inform their future capability plans, doctrine and tactics, air forces around the world will be analysing the conflict for years to come. However, now that the first phase of the war has ended with the Russian defeat and retreat from its northern axes of advance attempting to take Kyiv, Chernihiv and Sumy, there is already at least one clear lesson on which the RAF and other NATO air forces must act.

SEAD/DEAD Capability is Essential
The immediate lesson is that Russia’s failure and Ukraine’s inability to conduct successful suppression and/or destruction of enemy air defences (SEAD/DEAD) operations has crippled the battlefield effectiveness of both air forces. This is vital to understand because at present no Western air force other than the US Air Force has any serious SEAD/DEAD capability – despite, in many cases, having access to aircraft and weapons designed expressly for the task.

Mobile surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems are being used by both sides and have largely shaped the rest of the air war. The Russian air force has so far failed to demonstrate the capability to reliably find and destroy Ukraine’s SA-11 and SA-8 SAMs from the air. Instead, the majority of Ukraine’s 17 confirmed mobile SAM losses appear to have been caused by Russian ground forces in ambushes, artillery strikes and missile strikes – some of them guided by UAVs. The continued ability of Ukrainian SAM operators to conduct pop-up engagements makes flying over much of Ukraine at medium or high altitudes extremely hazardous for Russian fast jets and helicopters. Russian attempts to conduct sorties at low altitudes by day during the first week of March led to at least 10 fast jet losses. Since then, most of the roughly 200–300 Russian fast jet sorties per day seem to have been limited to either fighter patrols at very high altitudes and at significant stand-off ranges, or strike sorties at night and low altitude.

Russia’s high-altitude Su-35S and Su-30SM fighter patrols have been conducting regular anti-radiation missile (ARM) launches using Kh-31P missiles which attempt to home in on the radar of any Ukrainian SAM system, which illuminates to conduct an engagement. However, the need to stay out of effective range of short- and medium-range SAMs has meant that these launches have a very low probability of kill (Pk), and generally only serve to temporarily force Ukrainian SAM operators to turn off their radars for a short period while the ARMs are in the air. Equally, the widespread presence of mobile (and long-range S-300V4/S-400) Russian SAMs has forced the Ukrainian air force to operate almost exclusively at very low altitude since the first day of the conflict.

At low altitudes, where Russian and Ukrainian strike sorties are flown due to the lack of effective SEAD/DEAD options, both fast jets and helicopters are highly vulnerable to man-portable air defence systems (MANPADS) such as Igla-S, Stinger and Starstreak. They are also vulnerable to being shot down by anti-aircraft cannons and small-arms fire, which remains a formidable threat to low flying aircraft wherever large mechanised forces are deployed. The majority of the 19 confirmed Russian and 11 Ukrainian fast jet losses have likely been caused by MANPADS and ground fire. However, this is not because those threats are more dangerous than radar-guided SAMs, but because the inability to conduct effective SEAD/DEAD against the latter has forced both sides’ fast jets down low into range of the former.

NATO is Dangerously Dependent on the US for SEAD/DEAD
The US Air Force has a unique set of exquisite long-range penetrating assets, including shadowy UAVs like the RQ-170 and the B-2 bomber, to conduct direct strikes and target stand-off strikes on key enemy air defence command-and-control (C2) nodes, long-range radar installations and high-threat SAMs at the outset of a conflict. However, these assets are both too expensive and too scarce to rely on for large-scale SEAD/DEAD against mobile medium- and short-range SAM systems. For these threats, the US Air Force and Navy have traditionally conducted SEAD/DEAD by generating major self-escorting strike packages which enemy air defenders cannot afford to let reach their targets and so must unmask to engage. This tactic relies on close tactical coordination between electronic attack aircraft to degrade enemy SAM radar performance, specialised ‘wild weasel’ fighters with both ARMs to suppress SAMs and direct-attack munitions to conduct immediate follow-on ‘hard-kill’ attacks, and air superiority fighters to provide offensive counter-air cover. Flying such complex operations safely and effectively under fire requires extremely well-trained pilots who can perform their own missions almost instinctively, and who have trained regularly as part of large, mixed tactical formations. It also requires aerial refuelling tankers to keep the strike package elements sufficiently fuelled while forming up and transiting to the area of operations, as well as to refuel those attempting to return to base having used more fuel than planned in afterburner-intensive offensive and defensive combat manoeuvres. Finally, it requires intensive ISTAR flights by both penetrating and stand-off aircraft, and a highly sophisticated targeting, planning and C2 framework staffed by well-trained intelligence professionals and experienced officers to accurately detect and map the main threat dispositions in an enemy air defence network prior to each mission, and conduct battle-damage assessment afterwards to effectively plan and brief the next one.

The Russian air force appears unable to do this, but, aside from the US, all other NATO air forces also lack this capacity at a sovereign or even pan-European level. They lack sufficient penetrating assets to conduct initial direct strikes and targeting for stand-off munitions – with only a slowly increasing but overcommitted F-35 fleet on which to draw. They lack sufficient suitable munitions stocks. The pilots in most air forces also lack experience of regularly operating as part of large, mixed and mutually supporting strike packages – outside the usually once-in-a-career opportunity to deploy on the US-hosted Exercise Red Flag. European air forces also lack the large stand-off ISTAR fleets traditionally used to map and understand enemy air defence networks, and the intelligence and C2 staff capacity to run complex large-scale operations without significant US personnel and enabler support. As a result, if the US was committed to a major war elsewhere or otherwise politically unwilling to shoulder the primary SEAD/DEAD responsibilities, NATO air forces would face similar problems establishing air superiority over territory contested by Russia or any other state opponent with mobile SAMs. This severely limits sovereign freedom of action, and is a key bottleneck to any attempt to reduce the Alliance’s military over-dependence on the US.

The RAF is in a better position than most European air forces to potentially try to fix some of these shortcomings as it has a combination of aircraft and weapons systems already in its inventory which could be developed into a highly effective specialised SEAD/DEAD force. The Typhoon force, for example, can launch Storm Shadow cruise missiles against long-range radar and SAM sites. F-35B sorties might allow these to target mobile long-range SAMs, like S-400 batteries, if the location data can be passed to the launching Typhoon and the missile in-flight. They are also more than a match for all operational Russian fighter aircraft on both a technical and pilot competency level, so can provide self-escort capabilities against any likely air threats. However, Storm Shadow itself is large and expensive, and as such cannot be fielded in sufficient numbers to be used for more than high-value targets. In spite of over 1,000 Russian cruise- and ballistic-missile launches, which have had significant success against Ukrainian radars and S-300 long-range SAM batteries, mobile Ukrainian SAMs remain active and so Russian air superiority remains elusive. Unlike the Russian air force, which has limited precision guided munition (PGM) stocks and pilot familiarity, the RAF uses advanced targeting pods and the precision guided Paveway IV bomb and Brimstone missile as its primary air-to-ground weapons. However, neither are well suited for SEAD/DEAD as they both require Typhoons to get well within the engagement zone of medium-range mobile SAMs like the Russian SA-17 to use. The RAF no longer uses the ALARM missile which used to equip the Tornado force for SEAD, and few other European nations have a modern ARM capability either. For the small UK F-35B fleet, getting close enough to modern layered SAM threats to use Paveway IV significantly increases risk and the time needed to get within launch parameters of a pop-up SAM if it briefly illuminates nearby.

A much more suitable weapon is the new SPEAR 3 missile which has a stand-off range of more than 130 km, a multi-mode seeker that allows it a significant degree of fire-and-forget capability against even moving vehicles once launched with accurate target data, and is designed to be carried on triple-launchers underwing by Typhoon or internally for F-35s. In conjunction with the F-35’s unrivalled situational awareness and stand-in electronic attack capabilities, SPEAR 3 and the putative SPEAR EW variant could give the UK a seriously credible self-contained SEAD/DEAD capability. On Typhoon it can provide a credible self-defence and strike-package SEAD escort capability. However, it is an expensive weapon for an expensive aircraft, and the current UK contract only covers limited initial production and flight testing. SPEAR 3 also cannot currently be used by the ammunition handling system on Queen Elizabeth-class carriers.

If the UK were to significantly uplift its planned purchases of SPEAR 3 and ideally SPEAR EW, and start to train its Typhoon and F-35 crews for SEAD/DEAD in highly contested environments, it would need significantly increased funding or significant cuts elsewhere in an already diminished force structure. However, it would also give the NATO alliance a rapid path to additional modern SEAD/DEAD capability, which is already a critical bottleneck with full US participation, or a critical weakness without it. It would give the UK a key unique selling point as a NATO framework nation and make the RAF indispensable to any future NATO operation. It would also enhance sovereign freedom of action. If there is one clear lesson to take away from the air war over Ukraine, it is that if an air force cannot credibly find, suppress, fix and kill mobile, modern SAMs operating as pop-up threats, it will not be able to gain air superiority over even moderately well-equipped state opponents. Any attempt to work around the SEAD/DEAD deficiency by staying at stand-off ranges or flying in at very low level to stay under the radar will likely meet the same combination of limited battlefield effectiveness and high losses as Russia has found in Ukraine so far.

Justin Bronk is Senior Research Fellow for Airpower and Technology at RUSI

RUSI Fellow Justin Bronk analyses the complete Russian failure to gain air superiority despite apparent superiority of numbers
 
You've got to feel a bit sorry for old Putin, I mean he joined the KGB in 75, got to go to about collating information for the KGB hoping you're doing a good job to gloriously further the nation, then you get sent to East Germany in 1985 just as the wheels come off only to watch it all fall to absolute shit in 1990.
 
You've got to feel a bit sorry for old Putin, I mean he joined the KGB in 75, got to go to about collating information for the KGB hoping you're doing a good job to gloriously further the nation, then you get sent to East Germany in 1985 just as the wheels come off only to watch it all fall to absolute shit in 1990.
He played a role in guiding the Red Army Faction. Now his $700 million super yacht is now seized. Can be a yachtsman no more.

Italian officials seized a $700 million luxury yacht with ties to the Russian government, Rome's ministry of finance announced Friday.

Italian authorities scrambled to investigate the nearly 460-foot superyacht known as the Scheherazade, which was dry-docked in the Tuscan port of Marina di Carrara as concerns mounted the Kremlin-linked vessel would set out to Italian waters shortly.

RUSSIA MOVES FORCES TO MARIUPOL AHEAD OF 'VICTORY DAY' PARADE, OFFICIALS WORK TO RESCUE TRAPPED TROOPS

The yacht was seized under coordinated measures with the European Union due to Russia's involvement in "undermining or threatening the territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence of Ukraine."

The Scheherazade Superyacht Under Investigation By Italian Police
The Scheherazade 459-foot superyacht docked at the shipyard in Marina Di Carrara, Italy, on Wednesday, March 23, 2022. (Photographer: Francesco Mazzei/Bloomberg via Getty Images)
The finance ministry said the vessel, which flew the flag of the Cayman Islands, "had long been under the attention of the authorities."

Despite the acknowledged investigation that found the yacht to have "prominent" links to Russians targeted under EU sanctions, Italian officials omitted the name of the owner of the Scheherazade.

Some reporting has suggested the Scheherazade belongs to Russian President Vladimir Putin, while other reports have pointed to Eduard Khudainatov, a Russian former executive of a state-owned oil company, .

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Italy's financial police patrol boat is seen in front of the multi-million-dollar mega yacht Scheherazade, docked at the Tuscan port of Marina di Carrara, Tuscany, on May 6, 2022 (Photo by FEDERICO SCOPPA/AFP via Getty Images)
Khudainatov does not appear to have yet been specifically sanctioned, but a decree passed by Italian Finance Minister Daniele Franco barred the vessel from sailing away.


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenksyy specifically referenced the megayacht in a March address to Italy’s parliament in a plea for action.

"Don't be a resort for murderers," he said in a translated address. "Block all their real estate, accounts and yachts — from Scheherazade to the smallest ones. Block the assets of all those who have influence in Russia."


Ukraine has pressed the international community to impose harsher sanctions on Russia as it has continued its deadly war in Ukraine for more than 10 weeks.

The U.S., along with several European nations, have made moves to cut Russian oil ties, while others have pledged to do so by the end of 2022.

Pootin yot taken
 
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