Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[White_N]

is there any actual proof of staging in Bucha?

Yes, you are not the first to ask. Simply search the thread for "white armbands," but here is one example.

You can't be this retarded. Oh wait, you absolutely can!

Gerashchenko lost the entire information and psychological operation of Kiev in Bucha. Right in front of dozens of foreign journalists, a body with a white armband is carried past him.

I wonder if at least one of the dozens of these reporters will wonder what this bandage is and what it means. And it means exactly that the man was lynched by the Ukrainian security forces themselves for this particular bandage as an identification mark of the Russian forces.
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[mr.moon1488]

What benefit? Share this secret with us! What benefit gives countries to align themself with Russia. That when they decide that they have enough of this "partnership" Russia will send artillery to flatten to the ground their cities?

It's amazing to me (not really) how you're unable to put two and two together here. If a western nation racks up massive debt in order to bail out your shithole country, that might be a benefit to you, but that is obviously not beneficial to the citizens of those countries.

 

[Borscht]

how does this dispute bodies on satellite view being there for weeks

Why did Bucha mayor never mention piles of bodies so huge they could be seen from space? Why were the bodies in the video so fresh if they had been lying there for weeks?

The only thing we know for sure is that shenanigans took place, not who perpetrated them. And when in doubt, I go with the goold old "who benefits" principle.

Zelensky benefits from an international "muh dead bodies" scandal blowing up, Russia does not. Also, Zelensky has been caught lying so many times it is not even funny anymore. Ghost of Kiev, Snake Island defenders, asphalt Nutella street lamps, etc. So why not throw another outlandish narrative to the proverbial pile of bullshit?

 

[CometBop]

Yes, you are not the first to ask. Simply search the thread for "white armbands," but here is one example.

this is hardly definitive to actually prove this and answer these questions:
>has a some form of mortician verified how long he has been dead for
>was he killed during the Russian occupation or the Ukrainian occupation.

then again I could just as easily say:
civilians scared of the Russian soldiers wore armbands to leave their houses and not be shot to find food, but the Russian soldiers shot him too for whatever reason like the other civillians who were killed in bucha.
as you can see the narrative of the situation can be drawn on both sides but one video is hardly substantive proof, whilst the satellite imagery seems exceedingly clear evidence. tryna be good faith though so if theres anything im missing im interested

 

[kuuu]

Satellite pics with a comment from western intelligence that says "Russians did it".
100% Legit.

 

[Elbereth]

It's amazing to me (not really) how you're unable to put two and two together here. If a western nation racks up massive debt in order to bail out your shithole country, that might be a benefit to you, but that is obviously not beneficial to the citizens of those countries.

Ah yes. Those who lend money are always at loss

Banks are never really pulling any profits, they are just charity organisation. Same with EU. Pure charity. In no way they get some benefits of those transactions.

 

[Mark Antony]

Ok, so Germany did some crimes almost hundredth years ago and now they are repaying their debts by supporting Polish economy.

Once again, why should I feel bad about it?

None of those who participated in it are alive today and Ukraine after the war will shift as major pro-polish country.

How is this bad?

Lol, cope and seethe.

I know, aserwing such a simple question "what benefit aligning with Russia gives?" is impossible for you.

Because aligning with Russia gives no benefit

Is this what it's like to be a Pole? Look at this gutless, brainless, spineless, cockless bitch chatting me up like a redditor whilst claiming genocide is a-okay if a perpetrator just gives him gibs. You toilet-licking neanderthal. You gomorrhic leech. Catholic refuse. How dare you talk to me in my beautiful language when you barely pass as a human being?

 

[CometBop]

Satellite pics with a comment from western intelligence that says "Russians did it".
100% Legit.

>sattalite of area under russian occupation
>civillian bodies start showing up on the roads

 

[UVB-76]

woah, so profound

Well here's another profound take on war:

And when in doubt, I go with the goold old "who benefits" principle.

Zelensky benefits from an international "muh dead bodies" scandal blowing up, Russia does not.

The US didn't benefit from the Maywand District murders or the Mahmudiyah rape and killings.
Sometimes bad people with a gun and a uniform do bad things solely for themselves, without concern for the enemy incidentally benefitting from it.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Ah yes. Those who lend money are always at loss

Banks are never really pulling any profits, they are just charity organisation. Same with EU. Pure charity. In no way they get some benefits of those transactions.

Lol so now it's a "loan" and not "free money?" You're talking yourself into circles.

 

[Elbereth]

Is this what it's like to be a Pole? Look at this gutless, brainless, spineless, cockless bitch chatting me up like a redditor whilst claiming genocide is a-okay if a perpetrator just gives him gibs. You toilet-licking neanderthal. You gomorrhic leech. Catholic refuse. How dare you talk to me in my beautiful language when you barely pass as a human being?

In Polish when somebody tries so hard to be bossy and tough guy and maneged to look desperate for respect, we tell him "nie zesraj się", which translates directly to "don't shit yourself".

So, my dude. Don't shit yourself

 

[White_N]

Yes. They did. The minute an offensive war kicked off would be the minute the aid stopped. Not to mention such an offensive would be deeply unpopular with Ukrainians. Zelensky was a Russian detente guy, don't forget, and he won by a pretty huge margin.

He won because he promised peace. The battalions told him to fuck off and continued to escalate.
Battalions that have Nato training equipment and money, oy vey.

Acting like they are totally independent free countries acting without outside influence is a misrepresentation of reality, to put it mildly.

But Ukraine is sovereign and independent, not to mention a free, brave and democratic country.

one video is hardly substantive proof, whilst the satellite imagery seems exceedingly clear evidence

tryna be good faith though so if theres anything im missing im interested

Try harder. But, if you're sincere, I recommend returning to the thread and searching for "Safari," "white armbands," and "military rations."

 

[Borscht]

Well here's another profound take on war:
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The US didn't benefit from the Maywand District murders or the Mahmudiyah rape and killings.
Sometimes bad people with a gun and a uniform do bad things solely for themselves, without concern for the enemy incidentally benefitting from it.

A very valid point, actually. But this war is politicized to Hell and back, so I would expect the commanders to keep their soldiers on a particularly short leash to keep up with Putin's "liberation" narrative.

You may very well be right, atrocities do happen. I won't pretend every Russian soldier is a precious cinnamon bun uwu who would NEVER. It's just Ukraine has been putting up such egregious bullshit ("and then they sewed explosives into children and sent them to Ukrainean troops but the children cried "kill us"!) that I would not believe Ukrainean Ministry of Defense if it told me the Sun will be rising tomorrow.

 

[kuuu]

>sattalite of area under russian occupation
>civillian bodies start showing up on the roads

Says the expert who is on board with intelligence agencies and can totally tell by 4-6 pixel dots who is who and when it happened.
Totally unbiased and independant take, right on.

 

[Elbereth]

Lol so now it's a "loan" and not "free money?" You're talking yourself into circles.

Well, I'm not actually naive to call money from EU "free money" Much of given money goes back directly to EU, in order to buy their goods and services, and on other hand money is exchanged for influence which yet again translates to money.

However, it is kinda hard to see both sides gain something as a negative, you know?

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Satellite pics with a comment from western intelligence that says "Russians did it".
100% Legit.

It was actually the New York Times using commercial satellites that broke the story.

 

[kuuu]

It was actually the New York Times using commercial satellites that broke the story.

I know. It goes hand in hand with my comment.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Well, I'm not actually naive to call money from EU "free money" Much of given money goes back directly to EU, in order to buy their goods and services, and on other hand money is exchanged for influence which yet again translates to money.

However, it is kinda hard to see both sides gain something as a negative, you know?

>Well, I'm not actually naive to call money from EU "free money"
But you did basically say it was free money until I pointed out how it's parasitic to the citizens of western nations.

So the west is so fucking awesome, they will give you money at net loss for them just so you join them?

Fucking amazing! Why would anybody choose to align themself with Russia then? What do they offer?

 

[White_N]

People need to read War And Peace. Leo Tolstoy delivers the perfect message that can be reflected now I think.

"War bad, and people who participate in it are retards. None more so than the person who started it."

In my opinion, more appropriate for this conflict would be "Crime and Punishment."

"Fuck Around and Find Out." Also God "

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Mariupol Zoo. Animals survived.

 

[Mark Antony]

It was actually the New York Times using commercial satellites that broke the story.

In Polish when somebody tries so hard to be bossy and tough guy and maneged to look desperate for respect, we tell him "nie zesraj się", which translates directly to "don't shit yourself".

So, my dude. Don't shit yourself