Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Elbereth]

Sure. Like Obama said, Ukraine is strategically important to Russia. It's not important to the United States.

Imagine bragging about living in Poland
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Poland has better standards of living than Russia, or Belarus

 

[Borscht]

What's the deal with Ukraineans and cannibalism? Apparently they're making canned beef and marking it as "Stewed Luhansk separatist", "Sour cream separatist" and "Oiled separatist" now. At least I hope it's beef.

Is that some Elvish humor I am too Ork to understand?

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

What's the deal with Ukraineans and cannibalism? Apparently they're making canned beef and marking it as "Stewed Luhansk separatist", "Sour cream separatist" and "Oiled separatist" now.

I'm starting to think neo nazis might be bad people

 

[mr.moon1488]

What's the deal with Ukraineans and cannibalism? Apparently they're making canned beef and marking it as "Stewed Luhansk separatist", "Sour cream separatist" and "Oiled separatist" now. At least I hope it's beef.

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[White_N]

The same leader that Belarusian glowies wanted to overthrow not so long ago?

Yes, as well as Tokayev, and this is exactly what happened to Shevardnadze. It is funny how any pro-Russian country suddenly feels the need for revolution.

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Soy slipped into my separatist meat. Feels bad man

 

[ColtWalker1847]

What I actually said right afterwards:

I never claimed NATO was specifically training and arming the UAF to retake the separatist regions. I said that it was an inevitability that the conflict would flare up again and it wouldn't be a separatist offensive that did it, and when faced with the prospect of Ukraine giving Russia a bloody nose by removing its Ukrainian assets and connections, they would continue to provide support, covertly.

And I called you out on that. That's what kicked this all off, if you recall. Your sperg revisionist history lesson that I pretty much ignored really had nothing to do with it and was just you jerking yourself off to the correctness of your "neutral" position that you totes know more about.

Let's be perfectly fucking clear here. Western help was about, it was always about, countering Russian ambitions. Your insertion of Ukrainian fantasy invasions is just the voices in your head. The west didn't give help so that they could go on an offensive that would likely bring in Russia. It would be a PR and strategic disaster. Strings were attached.

 

[Elbereth]

Yes, as well as Tokayev, and this is exactly what happened to Shevardnadze. It is funny how any pro-Russian country suddenly feels the need for revolution.

Every time people dislike dictators is only because of glovies

 

[DumbDude42]

Ah, this is so cute. No, really, it is. I'm American, have had family in the military and this is not the military that won WW2, forced Korea into a stalemate, pounded Vietnam during the sixties and very early seventies, executed Desert Storm and deployed to Afghanistan and and Iraq from 2001 to last year, and I'm not even going to mention all the sorties we flew in various NATO excursions. The ability to project force is noticeably diminished and thus, so is the dollar.

This current situation is unsustainable at a time of runaway inflation of the dollar, food supply issues and general societal disintegration in the US. An Empire needs competent and innovative administrators, and we do not have any. Biden is a senile puppet everyone laughs at. Whatever your personal feelings about Putin, he's not senile and doesn't seem to suffer fools gladly.

All empires come to an end, the issue is whether they do so gracefully or abruptly. Europe is going to crash when the US can't sustain itself and project force at the same time, and crash hard. Best be prepared.

none of this relates to the actual point lol
you think the world will stop using USD as reserve currency. so what do you think will they use instead? chinese rmb? russian rubel? indian rupee? turkish lira? argentine peso?

 

[Givi]

And I called you out on that. That's what kicked this all off, if you recall. really had nothing to do with it and was just you jerking yourself off to the correctness of your "neutral" position

Let's be perfectly fucking clear here. NATO help was about, it was always about, countering Russian ambitions. Your insertion of Ukrainian fantasy invasions is just the voices in your head. The west didn't give help so that they could go on an offensive that would likely bring in Russia. It would be a PR and strategic disaster. Strings were attached.

You didn't call me out on shit you dumb boomer faggot, I'm the one who replied to you. If your old-age addled brain can't remember it, there's a reason you can go backwards in the forum pages, exactly so you don't come out with retarded posts like this.

Your sperg revisionist history lesson

Still haven't said what parts of my posts were revisionist.

that I pretty much ignored

I know you ignored it, grandpa, because your posts have no arguments in them and are essentially shit recycled off from low quality Red Scare posters from the 1970s, and you don't know anything about this conflict other than "Russia invaded Ukraine".

Your insertion of Ukrainian fantasy invasions

Sincerely how fucking retarded do you have to be to think that Ukraine was going to want a frozen conflict within their borders for the remainder of Earth's lifespan?

The west didn't give help so that they could go on an offensive

And the Ukrainians have absolutely zero say on what they do, militarily and politically, through several administrations? Again, this stupid fucking American mindset of "we gave them guns so they now have to do what we want forever!" is so fucking stupid and characteristic of your retarded generation that it's literally painful to have to argue against in Current Year. This shit has backfired a MILLION TIMES.

It would be a PR and strategic disaster

Again, quick decapitation of LPR/DPR. War over in 3 days before Russia can do anything about it. Conflict over with, minimal casualties, territory regained. NATO membership and full time protection from Russian invasions soon. It isn't that hard to fucking comprehend unless you're a complete mongoloid.

PS: Since you're so fucking stupid that you already forgot the original posts, here's the relevant part again, where I literally addressed what you said in your last paragraph.

Yes, because Ukraine was surely planning to never deal with the separatists ever, since they totally didn't want to join NATO to prevent exactly what happened.

I'm sure they were preparing for the strong possibility of a Russian invasion as well, but it's a joke to say they didn't want to eventually take a crack at the LDPR. Hell, maybe they were preparing for a Russian invasion in response to a real military campaign against the separatists, instead of what happened.

Your entire argument is accusing me of being a vatnik, which I am the furthest thing from (I have been very critical of Russia's handling of this war, military incompetence and general political system, as well as Putin himself), and continuously willfully misinterpreting or straight up not even reading my posts. It's the lowest quality of shitposts there is. All you've been doing is contributing to the lowering of quality of this thread by refusing to engage in honest discussion and instead smearing shit all over the forum's proverbial walls.

 

[Borscht]

I'm starting to think neo nazis might be bad people

And yet the Entire World™ is supporting them and telling me to feel bad for these people?

Imagine what happened if England sold "Tinned Irishman with potatoes" or Spain made "Basque with nautral juices".

 

[White_N]

Every time people dislike dictators is only because of glovies

No, only if these countries surround the main geopolitical opponent of the United States and suddenly see large foreign investments in non-profit organizations, an uprising, and then a revolution.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

NATO help was about, it was always about, countering Russian ambitions.

If by "ambitions" you mean "desire to not be surrounded by hostile states and deal with endless CIA-funded glowfaggery", sure.

History and geography has determined that Ukraine is Russia's wang, just as the same impersonal forces decreed that Canadia would be America's hat. NATO's Ukrofuckery was designed to provoke Russia, and it succeeded.

Simping for a mafia state run by murderous sociopaths such as Russia or Ukraine is dumb, simping for an even more murderous gang of sociopaths such as NATO/the Biden gerontological regime (same thing) is dumberer. We should simp for Jesus Christ the King instead, because nothing is more based or redpilled than the Lord of the Universe.

 

[Exorcist]

The same leader that Belarusian wanted to overthrow not so long ago?

Well I'm sure you are underage and from rich family probably son of some fucking corrupt politician ruining our shit hole, mostly because even biggest EU lovers know very well that germans have been assfucking us since we joined, as soon as our "anti-inflation shield" is gone we will be so fucked, when bread is going to cost 100zł a loaf, coal already costs twice as much as it did because our friends in EU told us to close down mines and go green, fuck me the times we live in are so screwed.

 

[Elbereth]

Well I'm sure you are underage and from rich family probably son of some fucking corrupt politician ruining our shit hole, mostly because even biggest EU lovers know very well that germans have been assfucking us since we joined, as soon as our "anti-inflation shield" is gone we will be so fucked, when bread is going to cost 100zł a loaf, coal already costs twice as much as it did because our friends in EU told us to close down mines and go green, fuck me the times we live in are so screwed.

I'm not underage, nor from rich family, lmao.

And no, bread loaf won't cost 100zł. Not even after shield is gone.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

none of this relates to the actual point lol
you think the world will stop using USD as reserve currency. so what do you think will they use instead? chinese rmb? russian rubel? indian rupee? turkish lira? argentine peso?

You realize that the US dollar is backed by petroleum, hence the moniker "petro dollar", right? And you know how that's enforced, right? Or have you slept through the last 20 years?

THE UNITED STATES MILITARY AND ITS ALLIES.

The American hegemon is fracturing, and whatever replaces it, will also replace its currency.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I swear, polish people will live in your mind rent free for ever

Jadwiga pls.

 

[Elbereth]

Guys, I know that US IS GOING TO FALL ANY SECOND NOW, but please could you ping me when it will finally happen?

 

[Mark Antony]

Guys, I know that US IS GOING TO FALL ANY SECOND NOW, but please could you ping me when it will finally happen?

What's your phone number?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Guys, I know that US IS GOING TO FALL ANY SECOND NOW, but please could you ping me when it will finally happen?

I don't think the US fall is imminent but the Ukraine certainly is. Cheer up, you will have new toilets to clean in Galicia for your new Ukie oligarchs.

 

[Exorcist]

Jadwiga pls.

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Don't encourage our slave mentality its already bad enough, Poland can never be free because we love being someone's bitch it's either soviets or germans or US, god forbid we run our own country responsibly, but oh well at least some people are happy about it.