This has all been tried before on this and every other forum ever. The result is always the same: it descends into a slapfight. That's just the tribal nature of people.
Personally I think it's a waste of time to try to have good faith discussions online or change people's opinions. I only ever change (or soften/broaden) my own opinions when my 'side' at the given time becomes too delusional for me to associate myself with it any more. This has happened many times, both when I considered myself 'left' and 'right'. I am now unabashedly of the opinion that both sides are full of drooling retards. That's my horseshoe theory.
It's simply easier to put up a wall between the two threads and laugh about specific strains of stupid people therein, while having a gentlemen's agreement to not get in each other's hair. I'd have posted in this thread more if I was a member sometime in 2016-2020, but the autistic pendulum has shifted and I prefer to hitch my wagon to Enslavement mockery now.