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  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 385 26.1%
  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 53 3.6%
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i know it's bad form to agree/quote a lolcow but...Mr enter was right. There's a reason the 90's is so beloved a decade in terms of animation. It wasn't perfect but there was a TON of animation that hit every emotion. It made us laugh, it made us cry, it took leaps and bounds that changed everything for all time, and most of all it made us feel.
Funny you post a toy story video after typing that, Toy Story 3 must have been the last time I felt ANYTHING watching a movie. When i saw the final scene where they are in the junk yard about to die when they look at each other and hold hands while accepting their fate, I was like "... WOAH.... that got DARK!"
 
Funny you post a toy story video after typing that, Toy Story 3 must have been the last time I felt ANYTHING watching a movie. When i saw the final scene where they are in the junk yard about to die when they look at each other and hold hands while accepting their fate, I was like "... WOAH.... that got DARK!"
Toy Story 3 is just a remake of The Brave Little Toaster.
 
and most of all it made us feel.

Ian Miles Cheong (thread) went on a rant.
Watching too many Marvel movies made people dumb, confusing escapist fantasies for reality.

So why is there even an “MCU”? It was drip fed by one or two yearly movies and it’s now become an entire torrent of content through Disney+. You’re a part of the ecosystem, invested in this metaverse. Facebook has nothing on Disney when it comes to total psychological submersion.

Disney honestly scares me. It’s a cult—what used to be criticized as the cult of Disney fans who’d visit Disney World every year has now obtained much broader reach than ever before. No one, you’ll note, ever comes to the defense of Zuckerberg. The same can’t be said of Disney.

Disney movies are scripted by psychologists. It’s how they get you to cry at the end of the film. They have formulas that work. They know how to manipulate your emotions and they’re very good at it.
The only Disney movie I like is Aladdin, because of how tightly scripted it is. I've never cried at the end of any Disney movie (ok I screamed at the end of The Rise of Palpatine on Movie Night), not even as a kid. I've never seen a single MCU movie and never wanted to. Out of the recent animated movies, I remember seeing Tangled (pirated, very bad), Frozen (pirated, very bad) and Coco (in a theater, decent but not rewatch material). I like reading about animation techniques Disney invented, but it sure seems like what they amount to these days is moar processing power, signifying nothing. I'm not all that based; I cry over (better) cartoons, I have a waifu in all but name, etc. And still all I get from Disney is boredom and disgust. Wouldn't even pirate.

(Also, neuromarketing is snake oil.)
 
Ian Miles Cheong (thread) went on a rant.

The only Disney movie I like is Aladdin, because of how tightly scripted it is. I've never cried at the end of any Disney movie (ok I screamed at the end of The Rise of Palpatine on Movie Night), not even as a kid. I've never seen a single MCU movie and never wanted to. Out of the recent animated movies, I remember seeing Tangled (pirated, very bad), Frozen (pirated, very bad) and Coco (in a theater, decent but not rewatch material). I like reading about animation techniques Disney invented, but it sure seems like what they amount to these days is moar processing power, signifying nothing. I'm not all that based; I cry over (better) cartoons, I have a waifu in all but name, etc. And still all I get from Disney is boredom and disgust. Wouldn't even pirate.

(Also, neuromarketing is snake oil.)
My friend, that is very understandable.....
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but could I interest you in the story of a little Hawaiian girl and her (alien) best friend? Dunno if you've seen it before, but if you haven't, it's a good'un. Plunder it from the high seas if you must.
 
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Ian Miles Cheong (thread) went on a rant.

The only Disney movie I like is Aladdin, because of how tightly scripted it is. I've never cried at the end of any Disney movie (ok I screamed at the end of The Rise of Palpatine on Movie Night), not even as a kid. I've never seen a single MCU movie and never wanted to. Out of the recent animated movies, I remember seeing Tangled (pirated, very bad), Frozen (pirated, very bad) and Coco (in a theater, decent but not rewatch material). I like reading about animation techniques Disney invented, but it sure seems like what they amount to these days is moar processing power, signifying nothing. I'm not all that based; I cry over (better) cartoons, I have a waifu in all but name, etc. And still all I get from Disney is boredom and disgust. Wouldn't even pirate.

(Also, neuromarketing is snake oil.)
Damn.. Talk about a harsh way to sober up and see things for how they really are. This the equivalent of an ice shower, some boiling hot coffee and a deep breath high up on a mountain.

And you know what the worst part of it is? No matter how many times you see the wizard behind the curtain, or take the red pill or put on the shades whatever old pop culture analogy you want.

There's always gonna be that small part of you that wishes you never did. That little part buried deep within your psyche that wants to embrace old "uncle Walt's "loving arms so he can pat you on the back and say "everything's gonna be OK. " but then you snap back to reality and its ugly head rears itself. Uncle Walt's dead, and what he left behind is all you have and the strangers wearing his clothes can say they can be just as fun as he was but nothing will be like how it was when he was there.


And yes I dont just mean when he was alive from 22 to 66, I mean when it felt like he was because your sense of youthful wonder kept him alive in your heart.
 
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Ian Miles Cheong (thread) went on a rant.
Yes, let's listen to the Malaysian who can't talk about anything but American politics.

(No one comes to the defense of Zuckerberg because social networks are not movies.)

Toy Story 3 is just a remake of The Brave Little Toaster.
You know, Lasseter tried to get The Brave Little Toaster done at Disney back when he was there originally in the mid-80s, but no one at the company saw any potential in it.

Of course, later it did get made, but at Hyperion Pictures, with outsourced animation and a score recorded in Tokyo. And yet, the film persevered.
 
You know, Lasseter tried to get The Brave Little Toaster done at Disney back when he was there originally in the mid-80s, but no one at the company saw any potential in it.

Of course, later it did get made, but at Hyperion Pictures, with outsourced animation and a score recorded in Tokyo. And yet, the film persevered.
The 80's were an interesting time for animated movies because the best animated movies out of that decade were dark, and for a few brief years this was acceptable. Even Disney experimented with it with The Black Cauldron (although most of it didn't remain in the movie) and Oliver and Company.

I'd say that The Brave Little Toaster is probably the darkest animated movie out of the 80's though because of how much it adds up. You've got:
  • Air Conditioner's death
  • Toaster unintentionally killing the beautiful flower through simple honesty
  • Toaster's nightmare in the spooky forest
  • Leads right into Blanket getting blown away in a storm
  • Leads into Lampy purposely gets struck by lightning in order to charge the battery so the group can continue (it's revealed that he lives one scene later though)
  • The Blender getting murdered in Parts for his motor
  • The entirety of the Parts sequence in general
  • When The Master repairs Air Conditioner and Air Conditioner silently sees and realizes that The Master really did love him all along, too
  • The entire dump sequence
  • Special shoutout to when Toaster willingly commits suicide so that his friends and The Master don't get crushed to death themselves
Don't get me wrong I love the movie to death, but it's kind of amazing how much sad/scary shit squeezed into a 90-something minute movie about talking and singing appliances. A shame that it didn't get a proper wide theatrical release.
 
i know it's bad form to agree/quote a lolcow but...Mr enter was right. There's a reason the 90's is so beloved a decade in terms of animation. It wasn't perfect but there was a TON of animation that hit every emotion. It made us laugh, it made us cry, it took leaps and bounds that changed everything for all time, and most of all it made us feel.
there's a reason anime is more popular than ever.

Ian Miles Cheong (thread) went on a rant.

The only Disney movie I like is Aladdin, because of how tightly scripted it is. I've never cried at the end of any Disney movie (ok I screamed at the end of The Rise of Palpatine on Movie Night), not even as a kid. I've never seen a single MCU movie and never wanted to. Out of the recent animated movies, I remember seeing Tangled (pirated, very bad), Frozen (pirated, very bad) and Coco (in a theater, decent but not rewatch material). I like reading about animation techniques Disney invented, but it sure seems like what they amount to these days is moar processing power, signifying nothing. I'm not all that based; I cry over (better) cartoons, I have a waifu in all but name, etc. And still all I get from Disney is boredom and disgust. Wouldn't even pirate.

(Also, neuromarketing is snake oil.)
while some of the MCU hate is certainly deserved, people need to get a fucking grip. the summer/winter blockbuster has been a thing for fucking ages, all disney did was reduce it to a single brand to make it easier to produce (while still having enough variety). no one was keeping other studios from doing their own thing, them being too retarded to compete can't be blamed on disney.
it's also easy as fuck to shit on blockbusters long before the MCU since most of them were just "loud, dumb movies", because that's what people wanted and were willing to spend money on. people also forget hollywood always had phases, ffs there was a time they were shitting out a fuckload of western movies - which then stopped, just like now no one is giving a shit about the MCU anymore after endgame.

also
>coco over tangled
duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude
 
I actually read the bill. What Hawley wants to do won't apply retroactively unless you're a company that makes over 150 billion a year... so it'll only apply to Disney. Bugs Bunny, Tom and Jerry, and the like would not be public domain at all.

If you're actually serious about copyright law don't support this shitty attempt to get back at Disney for stopping donations to the GOP.

(And it won't matter anyhow. Disney's trademarks can be renewed infinitely.)
 
The 80's were an interesting time for animated movies because the best animated movies out of that decade were dark, and for a few brief years this was acceptable. Even Disney experimented with it with The Black Cauldron (although most of it didn't remain in the movie) and Oliver and Company.

I'd say that The Brave Little Toaster is probably the darkest animated movie out of the 80's though because of how much it adds up. You've got:
  • Air Conditioner's death
  • Toaster unintentionally killing the beautiful flower through simple honesty
  • Toaster's nightmare in the spooky forest
  • Leads right into Blanket getting blown away in a storm
  • Leads into Lampy purposely gets struck by lightning in order to charge the battery so the group can continue (it's revealed that he lives one scene later though)
  • The Blender getting murdered in Parts for his motor
  • The entirety of the Parts sequence in general
  • When The Master repairs Air Conditioner and Air Conditioner silently sees and realizes that The Master really did love him all along, too
  • The entire dump sequence
  • Special shoutout to when Toaster willingly commits suicide so that his friends and The Master don't get crushed to death themselves
Don't get me wrong I love the movie to death, but it's kind of amazing how much sad/scary shit squeezed into a 90-something minute movie about talking and singing appliances. A shame that it didn't get a proper wide theatrical release.

The Brave Little Toaster genuinely traumatized me as a kid. That said, I simultaneously never missed it when it aired. I'd honestly never seen another kid's film like it. Still haven't.
 
The Brave Little Toaster genuinely traumatized me as a kid. That said, I simultaneously never missed it when it aired. I'd honestly never seen another kid's film like it. Still haven't.
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Also I would love to see someone conquer their fear by cosplaying as him at some convention or Halloween party.
 

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Also I would love to see someone conquer their fear by cosplaying as him at some convention or Halloween party.

The clown was pretty terrible. The flower is what fucked me up the most. I distinctly remember crying for hours about it and my parents both laughing their asses off and being genuinely stumped on how to console me.
 
The clown was pretty terrible. The flower is what fucked me up the most. I distinctly remember crying for hours about it and my parents both laughing their asses off and being genuinely stumped on how to console me.
My parents still make fun of me for hiding behind the couch when I was 4 when the master was almost crushed
 
The flower is what fucked me up the most.
That's because there's no intentional malice involved, Toaster was just being honest when he said he's not a flower. He didn't even say it in a mean way. And yet the flower was so heartbroken it immediately wilted and died on the spot. It immediately changed the meadow scene from just dumb animal shenanigans to an extremely important part in Toaster's character development.

The Brave Little Toaster genuinely traumatized me as a kid. That said, I simultaneously never missed it when it aired. I'd honestly never seen another kid's film like it. Still haven't.
This actually proves what Don Bluth said about how kids can handle all sorts of fucked up shit so long as there's a happy ending.
 
This actually proves what Don Bluth said about how kids can handle all sorts of fucked up shit so long as there's a happy ending.
Bambi's Mom

Funy thing is I didn't know she died until after I had seen that scene online. I had a bunch of disney read-along-books as a kid and Bambi was one of them and they just glossed over that shit like it was nothing.
 
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Also I would love to see someone conquer their fear by cosplaying as him at some convention or Halloween party.
The Brave Little Toaster genuinely traumatized me as a kid. That said, I simultaneously never missed it when it aired. I'd honestly never seen another kid's film like it. Still haven't.
I liked it as a kid and don't even remember the clown. It didn't traumatize me in the least either.
 
I liked it as a kid and don't even remember the clown. It didn't traumatize me in the least either.
After a couple more viewings I actually really enjoyed the nightmare sequence (maybe I have an appreciation for it now due to years watching Stephen King's IT on repeat and listening to Insane Clown Posse juggalo music growing up. lol.
 
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