Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Pocket Dragoon]

apparently Snake Island has been branded with the big Z
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Thanks be to the slavic Streisand-effect; I spotted something more interesting than the Z, down by the pier.


Zoom & Enhance!

 

[White_N]

Thanks be to the slavic Streisand-effect; I spotted something more interesting than the Z, down by the pier.
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Zoom & Enhance!
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Presumably this is a patrol boat of the Raptor series that sank when the Bayraktar UAV hit the boat

 

[St.Davis]

Mitch McConnell went to Kyiv. Even Mommy went to Ukraine. Where's Joey?

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/mitch-mcconnell-zelenskyy-ukraine/2022/05/14/id/1069855/?ns_mail_uid=32ade90a-5dd3-4a6e-937d-3f54e121bd1a&ns_mail_job=DM333215_05142022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010102ftv57j

https://archive.ph/T8pYm

Looks like the Ukrainians have launched a counteroffensive to disrupt Russian supply lines.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-launches-counteroffensive-to-disrupt-russian-supply-lines/ar-AAXgvhn?li=BBorjTa

https://archive.ph/N4sD1

The longer this war goes, the worse things get for Russia, in many areas. They've drawn NATO closer together, plus the likely addition of two new members. They've strengthened the relationship between the USA and Europe. They have shown the weakness and ineptitude of their conventional military. And thousands and thousands of sons of Russia are coming back to the Rodina injured, in a box, or not at all. And for what?

Joey is busy chewing his applesauce and inhaling children's scent. He doesn't have time to visit the latest black hole that the US is pouring money into.

Russia is trading these things for experience against conventional militaries, and particularly against some of the latest tools used by those militaries. As well, of course, as for the securing of Crimea, the Donbass, and presumably the entirety of the Ukraine's Azov Coast. Given that the war is ongoing, we don't know what the end result of this conflict is, nor the actual volume of losses from either side.

What did the US really end up trading soldier's lives in the sandbox for? Hell, Vietnam too?

I think it's very shortsighted to write Russia off like you are doing. At least wait for the war to be over before you declare the whole thing a pointless exercise.

Presumably this is a patrol boat of the Raptor series that sank when the Bayraktar UAV hit the boat

Assuming that the red cube on the pier is a shipping container (And from the dimensions a 40 foot one), I'm estimating that ship to be around 120ft long. How large are Raptors?

 

[Finnegan the Supershark]

Mitch McConnell went to Kyiv. Even Mommy went to Ukraine. Where's Joey?

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/mitch-mcconnell-zelenskyy-ukraine/2022/05/14/id/1069855/?ns_mail_uid=32ade90a-5dd3-4a6e-937d-3f54e121bd1a&ns_mail_job=DM333215_05142022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010102ftv57j

https://archive.ph/T8pYm

Looks like the Ukrainians have launched a counteroffensive to disrupt Russian supply lines.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-launches-counteroffensive-to-disrupt-russian-supply-lines/ar-AAXgvhn?li=BBorjTa

https://archive.ph/N4sD1

The longer this war goes, the worse things get for Russia, in many areas. They've drawn NATO closer together, plus the likely addition of two new members. They've strengthened the relationship between the USA and Europe. They have shown the weakness and ineptitude of their conventional military. And thousands and thousands of sons of Russia are coming back to the Rodina injured, in a box, or not at all. And for what?

At least it's better than the prize Ukrainians won from pretending they didn't know that NATO was never going to let them in.

 

[St.Davis]

At least it's better than the prize Ukrainians won from pretending they didn't know that NATO was never going to let them in.

What do you mean? At present count, about 6 million (OY!) of them won a significantly better life in Western Europe.

 

[draggs]

At least it's better than the prize Ukrainians won from pretending they didn't know that NATO was never going to let them in.

There's no reason for Ukraine to join NATO now, thanks to Vlad daddy's invasion Lockheed and Raytheon and BAE etc. can make even more money than they would have if Ukraine did join. After all, this way it's Western governments paying them to arm Ukraine instead of Ukraine paying. Guess who has more money lol

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Presumably this is a patrol boat of the Raptor series that sank when the Bayraktar UAV hit the boat

Pretty sure that's a landing craft; there's video of it here & elsewhere being hit, during the recent Ukrainian (or whoever) airstrikes.

Edit: Found it

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

The longer this war goes, the worse things get for

*everybody

I don't get why anyone thinks this is a good thing, it's a yuge, big league, slow-rolling disaster that promises to get a lot worse for everybody involved and dozens of countries that aren't

 

[kuuu]

French merc shilling for Russians on French Radio show.

 

[White_N]

How large are Raptors?

17 meters so about 55 feet

Pretty sure that's a landing craft; there's video of it here & elsewhere being hit, during the recent Ukrainian (or whoever) airstrikes.

Edit: Found it

I figured out what it is! This is the Dyugon-class landing craft.

The photo shows 2 landing boats and a floating crane of the Black Sea Fleet.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

17 meters so about 55 feet

I figured out what it is! This is the Dyugon-class landing craft.
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The photo shows 2 landing boats and a floating crane of the Black Sea Fleet.
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Good find.

Makes me wonder what the Russians intend on using the island for, besides turning it into an unsinkable missile/artillery base within range of Odessa.

French merc shilling for Russians on French Radio show.

I didn't know it was possible to carry on a conversation with a mouthful of dick, but there it is.

 

[JosephStalin]

Joey is busy chewing his applesauce and inhaling children's scent. He doesn't have time to visit the latest black hole that the US is pouring money into.

Russia is trading these things for experience against conventional militaries, and particularly against some of the latest tools used by those militaries. As well, of course, as for the securing of Crimea, the Donbass, and presumably the entirety of the Ukraine's Azov Coast. Given that the war is ongoing, we don't know what the end result of this conflict is, nor the actual volume of losses from either side.

What did the US really end up trading soldier's lives in the sandbox for? Hell, Vietnam too?

I think it's very shortsighted to write Russia off like you are doing. At least wait for the war to be over before you declare the whole thing a pointless exercise.



Assuming that the red cube on the pier is a shipping container (And from the dimensions a 40 foot one), I'm estimating that ship to be around 120ft long. How large are Raptors?

The Western weapons Russia captures on the battlefield, such as the US Javelin, have been around many years. Far as experience against conventional militaries, from what has been seen of Russian performance in this war question how able they are to make use of lessons learned. Until this war started many thought the Russian Army to be highly competent and highly capable, conventionally. Not so. Also question just how much any money allocated to rebuild/improve Russian conventional capabilities will actually turn into weapons/ammunition/facilities/troop pay raises instead of disappearing into someone's pocket.

Agree with you re Vietnam, that war should never have been fought. Actually, in 1945 we should have told the French to leave and instead worked with Ho Chi Minh. Desert Storm freed Kuwait. The 2003 Iraq war - good intentions, but mission creep and lack of common sense, maybe one and the same, fucked things up, same with Afghanistan. "Nation-building" only works if there's a nation to build, not a bunch of tribes.

Indeed, the war isn't over. Russia could lose at least some of the territory they have captured. More attacks could happen within Russia itself. No, a pointless exercise.

 

[Simpadoo]

Mitch McConnell went to Kyiv. Even Mommy went to Ukraine. Where's Joey?

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/mitch-mcconnell-zelenskyy-ukraine/2022/05/14/id/1069855/?ns_mail_uid=32ade90a-5dd3-4a6e-937d-3f54e121bd1a&ns_mail_job=DM333215_05142022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010102ftv57j

https://archive.ph/T8pYm

Looks like the Ukrainians have launched a counteroffensive to disrupt Russian supply lines.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-launches-counteroffensive-to-disrupt-russian-supply-lines/ar-AAXgvhn?li=BBorjTa

https://archive.ph/N4sD1

The longer this war goes, the worse things get for Russia, in many areas. They've drawn NATO closer together, plus the likely addition of two new members. They've strengthened the relationship between the USA and Europe. They have shown the weakness and ineptitude of their conventional military. And thousands and thousands of sons of Russia are coming back to the Rodina injured, in a box, or not at all. And for what?

So, it seems Cocaine Mitch and Pelosi also have financial interests in Hoholand, like Romney.

Unreal how corrupt our current legislature is and so blatant.

 

[Peter Piper]

This gear wasn't given out by Russians, it was given out by the DPR/LPR themselves to arm conscripts (who are never supposed to see combat and are instead used to guard HQs and captured territory) because the DPR/LPR don't get much in terms of material support from Russia. I've never seen a frontline separatist using a Mosin or anything outdated enough to be useless, unless they're a sniper who wants to LARP since they tend to get more leeway in terms of using whatever equipment they want.


If I had to guess, at this point the separatists have captured more than enough AKs in arms warehouses and from fallen Ukrainians that they'd have little problem giving them better shit if they eventually need to put conscripts in the frontline (which isn't in their plans). I've only seen one instance so far of separatist conscripts actually fighting, and it was the first UAF counter-attack in Kharkiv when LPR conscripts accidentally had to fight and immediately ran away or got killed. It's 2022 - everyone knows conscripts fight like shit and have very little use in a war, I wouldn't expect any human waves any time soon.

Unsure how things are in the separatist forces now, but there seems to pretty serious mobilization efforts going on. A pretty famous concert pianist got killed, and Strelkov had a rant on how they are sending university professors from Donetsk and Luhansk to the front. I don't know how much I'm going to trust that, but there are reports of people being press-ganged into service and disgruntled DNR/LPR troops complaining of being sent to the front with bad equipment and little training.

 

[St.Davis]

The Western weapons Russia captures on the battlefield, such as the US Javelin, have been around many years. Far as experience against conventional militaries, from what has been seen of Russian performance in this war question how able they are to make use of lessons learned. Until this war started many thought the Russian Army to be highly competent and highly capable, conventionally. Not so. Also question just how much any money allocated to rebuild/improve Russian conventional capabilities will actually turn into weapons/ammunition/facilities/troop pay raises instead of disappearing into someone's pocket.

Agree with you re Vietnam, that war should never have been fought. Actually, in 1945 we should have told the French to leave and instead worked with Ho Chi Minh. Desert Storm freed Kuwait. The 2003 Iraq war - good intentions, but mission creep and lack of common sense, maybe one and the same, fucked things up, same with Afghanistan. "Nation-building" only works if there's a nation to build, not a bunch of tribes.

Indeed, the war isn't over. Russia could lose at least some of the territory they have captured. More attacks could happen within Russia itself. No, a pointless exercise.

I'm not talking about the capture of equipment, but the effect that equipment has on the Russian army, and how they might translate this experience into countermeasures in the future.

You're acting as though the Russians are getting steamrolled, or that they're fighting the equivalent of central African tribesmen with sharp sticks. The Ukrainian army is/was quite large, despite being retarded and corrupt. They've since been supplied with tonnes upon tonnes of materiel from western countries. Their light infantry forces are well equipped, if nothing else. I might similarly ask how much of the billions in aid the west is supplying to The Ukraine is actually helping the common soldiery, and how much is being resold to some tinpot African dictator as we speak?

Desert Storm I I will concede as a success.

I have no idea why you'd think that Russia stands to lose territory. They are clearly winning this war.

 

[Givi]

Unsure how things are in the separatist forces now, but there seems to pretty serious mobilization efforts going on. A pretty famous concert pianist got killed, and Strelkov had a rant on how they are sending university professors from Donetsk and Luhansk to the front. I don't know how much I'm going to trust that, but there are reports of people being press-ganged into service and disgruntled DNR/LPR troops complaining of being sent to the front with bad equipment and little training.

Strelkov is consistently attempting to ramp up rethoric because he wants a full scale invasion of Ukraine and probably the extermination of all Ukrainians, he's not a very reliable narrator for this war unfortunately. He also suffers from a somewhat understandable case of being mad because people called him a traitor when he refused to get his men killed in what he considered a retarded and impossible defense of Slaviansk.

It's true that the DPR/LPR mobilized basically every man of fighting age they could (and certainly every veteran), but they aren't sent to the front, they're sent to hold backlines, guard HQs and play cards while they wait to return (probably similarly to the TDF). As far as I know, they were given no training and whatever available equipment, ranging from mosin nagants to AKMs. Conscripts just have no value in the military anymore, and everyone knows this. It's why I also don't believe it when I see Russian reports of TDF units being transferred for future offensives, it would be a giant mistake.

 

[kuuu]

he wants a full scale invasion of Ukraine and probably the extermination of all Ukrainians

While the rest about Strelkov I agree with, and him being a bloody monarchist kinda implies a "full scale invasion of Ukraine" as a part of a bigger project, I have not seen him go beyond publicly stating that he is a big proponent of Novorossia project (as he himself calls it, with borders ending at Dnepr river), which doesn't include Western Ukraine. Nor did I hear him make calls for Ukrainian genocide. I vaguely remember him going on about Ukrainian culture being fake/false and undeserving of existence, but killing Ukrainians..? Are you sure you got that right?

 

[CometBop]

Holy fuck this meme again. Moscow had the "keys" to these weapons they were completely useless to the Ukraine, the only risk was Ukrainians selling off the components or materials or even scientists who worked on these weapons to "rogue nations"

whether the nukes had value or not seems irrelevant to the point of the fact they signed an agreement to respect Ukraine's borders

 

[CometBop]

I came across an interesting video about weapons and the ability of the United States to project power on its satellites

I think that's an overly pessimistic view of the situation. not something that's necessarily wrong but it takes the most bleak situation as a reality, which is a full throated Chinese invasion of Taiwan.

for one, such a feat would take months if not years of preparation and infrastructure build-up (like the Russian invasion of Ukraine) which the USA would spot, and it doesn't even consider whether such an adventure into Taiwan would be logistically feasible. china's navy is growing but its not quite up to that level yet. and either way. "7 years of javelin stockpiles" is now 3.5 years with the production ramp up already. the american industry is hungry

 

[Givi]

While the rest about Strelkov I agree with, and him being a bloody monarchist kinda implies a "full scale invasion of Ukraine" as a part of a bigger project, I have not seen him go beyond publicly stating that he is a big proponent of Novorossia project (as he himself calls it, with borders ending at Dnepr river), which doesn't include Western Ukraine. Nor did I hear him make calls for Ukrainian genocide. I vaguely remember him going on about Ukrainian culture being fake/false and undeserving of existence, but killing Ukrainians..? Are you sure you got that right?

In my opinion, unless he's terminally retarded, he would understand that a full mobilization would mean the death of upwards of a million of hohols. Extermination was a harsh word to use, though, lol, you're right. He probably doesn't want to kill every single Ukrainian hitler-style, but he probably wouldn't care much if a lot of them died.