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I seriously thought she was a feminist.

Advice by Jamilah Lemieux

May 13, 2022 6:05 AM

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Dear Care and Feeding,

Yesterday, my 17-year-old daughter, a junior in high school, told us she was going to her boyfriend’s house. It turns out she lied.

I only found out because today, I casually mentioned Roe v. Wade may be overturned, and she replied, “I can’t wait. So many innocent lives will be spared.” We got into an argument in which she ended up confessing her actual whereabouts—she went to a “pro-life” rally with her boyfriend.

We’ve grounded her and taken away her phone for going behind our backs, but she’s showing no remorse. I just can’t believe it. This is the girl who dressed up as Ruth Bader Ginsburg for Halloween when she was 10. She’s heading to law school in a couple years. I seriously thought she was pro-choice and a feminist. I’ve been taking her to rallies and protests since she was a baby. We’ve been educating her about safe sex and consent. We donate to Planned Parenthood every year for Christmas. I’m fine with her disagreeing with us on other topics, but I had an abortion years ago. We live in a conservative state. I don’t want her right to choose to be taken away.

And I’m furious at her for going behind our backs. I’m suspicious of her boyfriend—I know he’s a conservative-leaning Christian and I don’t want to have raised a daughter who votes for whomever her boyfriend does. How do I convince her being pro-life isn’t helping her in the long run?

— Just Trying to Raise a Feminist
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Dear Just Trying,

I suppose I should say that sometimes we raise children who have different politics from our own, and if this proves to be more than a phase, you’ll simply have to respect that. Alas, I don’t feel that way; some politics are to be challenged at every turn, and there are even those that should result in one being cut off (in adulthood, of course). Luckily, she’s still in your house and still subject to both your influence and rules. Inundate her with pro-choice content. Require her to read articles and books that explain why it is important for women to have control of their bodies. Remind her that a person can choose for themselves to never have an abortion—or at least intend not to have one—while respecting the rights of others to choose otherwise.

Hopefully, you’ve already had conversations with your daughter about how your family’s politics differ from those of many of your neighbors. It’s time those discussions got more frequent and pointed. Talk about the importance of maintaining one’s own values in a relationship, remind her (as she may have heard otherwise recently) that it isn’t the job of a woman to follow what her man does without regard to her personal thoughts and needs.
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This may be a long and difficult battle. Hopefully, her interest in overturning abortion rights will be short-lived and she’ll move onto another romance. However, young love can be a hell of a drug, and she would hardly be the first girl to acquiesce to some nonsense because of a boy she liked. You need to stay on top of what sort of information she is taking home from this kid and figure out how deep his influence goes.

Don’t allow her to go to with him to any conservative events or any other environment where she’s likely to face some attempts at indoctrination, especially without telling you. You may want to limit the amount of time she spends around his family. Constantly challenge their politics without attacking them as people. Help her to connect the dots between what she (hopefully) feels deep inside and how this boyfriend’s values differ. Resist any urge to just suck it up and allow your daughter to do her own thing politically; you’re fighting for her character, her humanity, and her ability to extend empathy to others. You can’t let this boy win. Good luck to you!

— Jamilah
 
Remember the days when teenage girls used to lie about going to other places when they were really spending time at their boyfriend's house? How the times have changed. I mean, to be fair, for all we know the daughter could have met up with her boyfriend at his house before heading out to the pro-life rally, so technically she might not have lied.

I love how the columnist opens up with how we need to accept how children sometimes end up with views that differ from their parents only to immediately follow up with a how to guide on how to force their own view points down the kid's throat. I can only echo what other posters have already wrote about how this sort of approach will only breed resentment, secrecy and potentially drive the girl away from her parents.
 
This brings to mind something I've been wondering- how long until we start seeing a rash of woke honor killings?
Five years ago I’d have laughed that off and thought it was just a funny joke. I’m still laughing now, because if I don’t I’ll go insane, but I no longer consider it impossible.
 
I thought it was common knowledge that teenagers are naive and still figuring themselves out. I definitely had different opinions compared to my folks but I wasn’t punished for it, my ideas were challenged of course and I was taught how to respectfully debate someone. I was also told I’ll learn more as I aged and that it’s normal for my opinions to change.
This mom isn’t going to like that she’s confirming her daughter’s beliefs by punishing her for her opinion. Mom should have grounded her for lying instead.
 
Its like these people are almost encouraging abortions. Not like it being a last resort, but a badge of honor. Pretty disgusting and if the letter wasn't fake these people had no business having a kid. Given how level the kid must be to lie about going to a pro life rally instead of fucking around with guys, the parents must set a bad example she wishes to deviate from.
 
Oh how the tables turn. Now it's the Left's turn to be old and lame.

I remember being an edgy youth rebelling against my parents. Eventually I grew out of it and reconnected with my faith (after meeting my wife on that journey).
I put my folks though some shit but they just gave me space to rebel and it petered out in time. My mom still wonders about how on Earth she raised a conservative military man when I was exposed to a bunch of kumbaya feel good stuff about world peace and mild lefty things (old school civil rights era stuff, nothing commie) as a kid. I reckon that because she didn't try to make me fit a preconceived mold in her mind and accepted that I thought different is why we still have a good relationship.
Pops never gave me shit, just chiding me to treat mom better (sorry mom).
 
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I hope Albert Einstein gives the mother $100 to cheer her up.

I think we'll see gen X and millennial parents complaining about their kids being apathetic or self serving more than them being christian... unless Revival 2.0 is around the corner. If the economy keeps getting worse, zoomers will sacrifice woke ethics to make ends meet while their retard woke parents laden on the suffering for "the greater good".
The thing about Christianity is that the liberal branches are dying a rapid death while the more socially conservative branches are exploding in popularity.

I can easily see Zoomers becoming more religious as a response to harder times and insane millennials.
 
So you and your kid disagree on something politically. How is that article worthy again? My parents and I disagree on plenty of political things and that's perfectly fine. You shouldn't expect your late-teen/adult children to share all your beliefs, and likewise one shouldn't force their beliefs upon their parents. Raising someone who can think for themselves (I'm not talking doing something extreme like getting a sex-change or joining an extremist religious cult) is a good thing. If your son or daughter agrees with you on everything, you should be a little concerned.
 
Five years ago I’d have laughed that off and thought it was just a funny joke. I’m still laughing now, because if I don’t I’ll go insane, but I no longer consider it impossible.
All the psychosocial elements that are involved in a Muslim honor killing are in place, at this point. You can get destroyed socially for politically incorrect comments and associations. Lose your job, get dragged through the national media. There are "blasphemous" terms and ideas that are deemed completely outside normal discourse. There is a tendency to blame not just the heretic but all his associates for his not snapping into line.

I definitely could see it happening.
 
If I went back in time and told people that in 2022, mothers would be more worried about their daughter dating a religious, community-involved young man who probably also believes in waiting until marriage to have sex than they would be if their daughter was dating a man in a dress, they would literally weep.
 
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