Mister Dongs
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Notionally, "the chat" are the ones in a compact with the creators, a sort of vestigial concept from before Comicsgate generally agreed that making their own comics was the right course of action and the movement consisted entirely of disaffected fans of Marvel and DC. The idea being that professional comic creators would court the chat, be sure to hail them and overall show due respect to the movement and in return Comicsgate would fund the book, the success of early creators validating their claims of representing "the real customer".I'm not sure what the difference is. Don't CG chat denizens only exist to suck off the creators anyway?
Gradually though as CG wore on, it became clear that the balance of power was steadily shifting on the side of the creators as most of the leading figures and strongest personalities in the movement, the ones that would be expected to uphold values like customer supremacy, at some point naturally wanted to cash in for all the time and effort sunk in in some form and either became creators themselves or moved on to fresh, more lucrative fronts in the culture war as monetized professional youtubers. The main resistance to this trend was Ro Kabir and Warcampaign, who felt that the weak position of the individual customer against the disregard of a well-funded and powerful creator could be offset by taking the most driven and motivated non-creator activists within the group and organizing them into something that would serve as a customer vanguard, carefully courting dozens of whales, gayoppers as well as characters like Liam Gray and Sketch Therapy to form a brigading/collective bargaining unit that would ensure that the customer's voice would always be heard.
But, far from being the hero of this story, this generally expressed itself in the form of constant shit tests directed at isolated small creators who just wanted to make an indie comic book (any refusal to eat their shit was considered "an affront to the customer") as well as brigading anyone who questioned their authority or behavior. It goes without saying that things like "merit" were never a priority in this system, which generally weeded out talented people with self-respect and replaced them with obsequious people who would submit to anything to get in and more often than not turning out to be incompetent grifters, which defeated the whole purpose of a customer vanguard in the first place. But at this point that didn't really matter. The smallest creators were targeted at first and after they either bent the knee or were driven off, they would work their way up to gradually larger and larger figures. It was working out quite well until eventually Ro actually began to believe his own rhetoric about actually possessing the authority of the customer and started to make serious strategic missteps, cornering Frog with threats of revoking the customer's support for Cyberfrog. The creators coordinated among themselves for a mass block of everyone in WC, the customers didn't disappear, and after that Warcampaign disappeared in a puff of smoke.
It was around at this point Leroi started thinking to himself "hey wait a second this retarded indian doesn't speak for me, I don't see any of these so-called representatives in the chat" as all this played out on various livestreams, resolving that if anyone's going to speak for The Chat, it's going to be him.
But while Ro Kabir used the authority of the people to try and subjugate all of Comicsgate under a brutal spergocracy, Leroi instead mostly leveraged that same power to get comic book letterer Eric Weathers and CG's whipping boy Shane Davis to hang out with him. At least until Leroi let the awesome power of hanging out with Eric Weathers go to his head and he thought it wise to ask where the overdue books he ordered were and they felt unsure about hanging out with him anymore, at which point he completely capitulated (he says he was threatened with doxing by a creator but refused to prove it) and purged his channel.
By contrast, Crackhead is straight up that CG consists of a framework of "creators" and "fans" and his show is for the fans of the creators. Which is a grim but not wrong assessment of the Comicsgate prole of today. But that's the difference between "a show for the chat" and "a show for the fans".
Hey thanks. I know all of the above text was boring so here's this classic episode of Rekeita Law, where Liam Gray faces off against DA Talks over the matter of flagging Thomas Roiloup.Thanks for spoon feeding me. That explains a lot about how they come across as believing that they have this outsized, exaggerated amount of relevancy compared to reality.
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