General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

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Guys... don't forget that AV idol is a thing
don't be surprised if there are idols in the spectrum between seiso & straight up porn.

Idol is mythological creature that doesn't exist. It just means entertainer.

Only hilarious coomers who coom to asmr and get butthurt when their idol is called slut believe in idea of idols. Shy, seiso, wallflower idols... who sell porn. But porn without men, that's important! 🤣

I mean, it's not so shocking, there are people in pornhub comments writing love poems to sluts. But it is funny.
 
That's smart. Why dedicate to one market when you can diversify your portfolio. Shirgane "I'm never collabing with holostars" Noel. That's clever entrepeneurship.
Noel may be a hamster-sniffing weirdo, but I've always got the impression she has a genuinely good head for business atop those strained and sore shoulders. I remember someone, possibly Rushia or Matsuri, bemoaning how hard it was to get a credit card at some dinner meet-up, only for Noel to promptly start going through how to navigate the process and use a card as a tool to build your credit rating.
 
After a week, V&U's members seem to have gotten a hang of it and has done better than I expected so far.

Liora is still the standout and her Vampire Survivor streams do well for background with a deeper voice, Lofi/Penelope is showing a dedication to the games that comes through and makes up for not reading the chat which is fair for the games she's playing. The twins are the least experienced but getting over the language barrier and most importantly playing bigger games than I usually see on vtubers, does Korea have the same strict streaming rights as Japan does with games? They also try to use their actual roommate ability to collab, they played Pico Park together last night. I think they need their manager to just give them a once over to check things on their back ends (I don't think they know how to embed chat in the actual stream and are reading from the sidebar), and it seems it's taking youtube about 12 hours to upload their most recent streams into videos which is probably taking away some easy same day views.
 
Honest question: What is wrong with the EN Vtuber sphere?
I just noticed that there is a new trend on twitter of vtubers posting their IRL boobs vs their vtuber persona ones. I'm not going to post pics for the sake of this thread but what's the fucking point in doing this if you can just be e-thot for this kind of attention? I think there is a specific meaning of the V in Vtuber.
They post under the hashtags #VTuberUprising and #VTuberEN if you want to check for yourself.
Jesus fucking Christ. Might as well be a regular e thot if your personality behind a waifu isn't getting you views. If you have a good body, fucking use it if you're actually serious about your 'hustle'
Rpr is at least more generally liked than Connor. I can't see the same happening with him. Basically, I don't think anyone sees him as a threat lol
Anything Towa Sama approves of, I approve of.
 
Also, does anyone know what's said in this one?
She gave her a ticket to go on a date with her to Disneyland

And people complaining about Noel when there is a torrent with all her hardcore shit and one is literally she doing asmr while using a bdsm suit, i respect her hustle to keeping a very good line between the two accounts and not blowing up her business like the menhera did
 
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Notable Pippa simp Ken Ashcorp seems to be planning something.
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It better be something along the lines of this classic, Ken. :story:

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Meanwhile, Noel and Mel still doing sexual asmr as their side career is an even bigger disaster waiting to happen since all it's gonna take are bitter people to stir shit that spills over into the Hololive side, it won't be rushia level (since neither of them do GFE pandering) but they're kind of working on a trust system with fans.
I can't see how. it's not exactly a secret for the fanbase (Noel in particular have a large channel), they would do more spicy ASMR as holos too if youtube wasn't so retarded about it. I wouldn't say that Noel doesn't pander to GFE crowd though, she promised to never betray her gachikoi (with a man) etc. she's pretty BASED like that, not sure about Mel.

I'm sure Vox has some personal experience with what can happen, considering he used to be known for voicing various Sans in comic fandubs and had a thirsty fanbase over there because of that as well. (People really want to fuck the Undertale skeleton, man.) He's been fielding that kind of attention on a smaller scale for a while now, and the lessons you learn don't change no matter how big your fanbase is - it's just the slip-up that will be scary (and he knows it) and I'm glad we'll all be here to see it if and when it happens.
Thirsty fanbase is one thing but there is also notable cultural/language barrier here as most of them seem to be Asian women, many from China and we've already seen how unstable this kind of fans can become over things Western streamer wouldn't even noticed. Correct me if I'm wrong but none of the niji boys seem actually knowledgeable about the Chinese language and sensibilities etc. like I've said they're playing with fire just like hololive 2 years ago. Also doesn't seem like VOX actually bothered to set up any boundaries. I wasn't too interested in their PL but afaik he's actually the worst at dealing with excessive parasocial stuff together with Mysta out of the whole bunch.

Yeah, this is just sad at this point. Clearly this is a targetted attempt at Vtubers.
French people are proven cowards
 
the fucking point in doing this if you can just be e-thot for this kind of attention? I think there is a specific meaning of the V in Vtuber.
They post under the hashtags #VTuberUprising and #VTuberEN if you want to check for yourself.
Easy, theres a good overlap in the degenerate coomers who follow anime thots and the people who watch two bit coomer v-tubers, most people wont give a shit about a daki or some shitty merch you printed out, but coomers damn well will spend 10 bucks a month on patreon or only fans if they can get 5 minutes of shitty coom asmr or a titty pic
 
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Its like some westeners have a problem with Noel showing her tits on her roomate account while deciding not to collab with males in holo. JP bros have 0 complaints with this, maybe they comprehend something else than westerners dont, or they see shades or grey while here its just black & white regarding sexual content.

All the sperging because someone mentioned Noel while talking about Towa & RPR :(
 
In my opinion, this is what idols are supposed to be for. There's a lot of 'no male contact ever' retardation that gets thrust upon everyone with the idol label, but look here. Towa has been an inspiration for this guy, and it wouldn't have happened had she been totally constrained by the people who don't understand there are varying levels to this industry.
I think people forget that actual "irl" idols do interact with guys all the time on stuff like TV shows and web radio. It's not like Love Live or something where guys almost literally don't exist.

As for the Noel stuff, she's an e-thot. People here spend thousands of words on arguments as to why e-thots are the devil and then are stuck trying to rationalize actually liking one of them. Just be fine with it. Chicks have been using sexuality to earn money since ancient Mesopotamia. Even "regular" female vtubers do it to a degree. Some of them are cringe, some are fine. Noel's more or less fine.
 
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I think people forget that actual "irl" idols do interact with guys all the time on stuff like TV shows and web radio.
The problem with gachikois its not the male interaction per se, but the male love relationship, its there when they start sperging
People here spend thousands of words on arguments as to why e-thots are the devil and then are stuck trying to rationalize actually liking one of them.
Maybe thats why Projekt Melody was liked back when she debuted: she didnt acted as the typical badmouthed Stacy e-thot but instead was a lovable weeb dork who barely swore. Thats the difference between her, Noel & Mel, and lets say, that e-whore that used the vtuber tag and went menhera.
 
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