General Wrestling Discussion

[Never Scored]

Don't almost all American Wrestlers today rehearse everything spot for spot with little to no ad libbing or going with the flow.

I remember hearing back in 2003 that basically all matches were mapped out spot for spot beforehand.

It's possible. I know guys like the Bucks do. If guys like Danielson, FTR, Punk, Moxley and MJF are doing it, they sure do a good job of making it look natural. Wrestlers like Sasha come off as the wrestling equivalent of an actor that just remembers their lines and waits for their turn to talk as opposed to the kind of actor that internalizes the character and focuses on reacting to the other person's line.

 

[blablabla]

mjf bowed out to the trannies and used his jew victim card? send that fucker to new york so that vincent kennedy can destroy him

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

It's possible. I know guys like the Bucks do. If guys like Danielson, FTR, Punk, Moxley and MJF are doing it, they sure do a good job of making it look natural. Wrestlers like Sasha come off as the wrestling equivalent of an actor that just remembers their lines and waits for their turn to talk as opposed to the kind of actor that internalizes the character and focuses on reacting to the other person's line.

Sasha Banks was interviewed at Fenway, it was cringey (and no I'm not making fun of her brother)

She comes off like any other brain dead celebrity. "This is everything for me" NOT ANYMORE

 

[Cuatro Vaginas]

LOL MJF eats dicks, rotten detached dicks that is. What a way to ruin his only redeeming quality but I didn't expect much from someone insecure and we all know what Vince thinks about people like that.

It's hilarious how high Sasha thinks of herself, her generation is so underwhelming. I hope she's so far up her own ass that she actually quits and goes to Japan so the Joshis show her how much she sucks. Joshis get a bad rep from autistic territory fans but they are tough, the great ones fight and scream like actual wrestlers and would beat the shit out of someone who makes mistakes in the ring like Sasha. For fucks sake she's now considered a veteran and still has moments where she doesn't know what to do next.

 

[Big Scumfuck]

LOL MJF eats dicks, rotten detached dicks that is. What a way to ruin his only redeeming quality but I didn't expect much from someone insecure and we all know what Vince thinks about people like that.

It's hilarious how high Sasha thinks of herself, her generation is so underwhelming. I hope she's so far up her own ass that she actually quits and goes to Japan so the Joshis show her how much she sucks. Joshis get a bad rep from autistic territory fans but they are tough, the great ones fight and scream like actual wrestlers and would beat the shit out of someone who makes mistakes in the ring like Sasha. For fucks sake she's now considered a veteran and still has moments where she doesn't know what to do next.

I can't believe they didn't drop Sasha when she injured Paige enough to force her to retire.

 

[King Ghidorah]

The more I think about it, the more I believe Kevin Nash may actually be one of the most destructive men in wrestling history. Not in the sense that he had devastating offense in the ring; in the sense that everything he touched turned to shit.

WWF made him champion and he was one of the lowest-drawing champions of all time. He went to WCW and the NWO caught a lot of attention, but he made WCW all about him and basically choked the life out of it, even after Hogan had left. Seriously, looking at how he behaved in WCW, it was like he was TRYING to destroy the promotion for lulz. although he was admittedly far from the only deciding factor on that

Later he went to TNA and screwed that up as well, although that can also be put on Hogan with Nash just along for the ride. He came back to WWE and ruined the Summer of Punk.

And it’s not like he was ever even a good wrestler. He was tall, had an imposing presence, and had pretty good charisma on the mic (even if he didn’t know the difference between an adjective and a verb), but even Hogan was a better actual worker (never mind Hall, who was legit great).

I’m sure he has fans who will tell me at length how great he was and how I’m stupid, but the evidence is there in the trail of scorched earth stretching back for miles behind him.

 

[captkrisma]

Don't almost all American Wrestlers today rehearse everything spot for spot with little to no ad libbing or going with the flow.

I remember hearing back in 2003 that basically all matches were mapped out spot for spot beforehand.

It depends on where you go and who you're working with these days. I've had lucha shows where every spot was mapped out in a multi-man elimination match and I have had matches with old hands that whisper "do a back bump" and execute. I prefer the latter over the former because you feed off the crowd easier that way.

 

[Salubrious]

LOL MJF eats dicks, rotten detached dicks that is. What a way to ruin his only redeeming quality but I didn't expect much from someone insecure and we all know what Vince thinks about people like that.

It's hilarious how high Sasha thinks of herself, her generation is so underwhelming. I hope she's so far up her own ass that she actually quits and goes to Japan so the Joshis show her how much she sucks. Joshis get a bad rep from autistic territory fans but they are tough, the great ones fight and scream like actual wrestlers and would beat the shit out of someone who makes mistakes in the ring like Sasha. For fucks sake she's now considered a veteran and still has moments where she doesn't know what to do next.

It's weird because I'm sure Stardom would take her for the name recognition, but I actually can't imagine her trying to wrestle a main event with their top eight women.

I'll feel like Syuri would just legit beat the shit out of her at some point in the match.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

The more I think about it, the more I believe Kevin Nash may actually be one of the most destructive men in wrestling history. Not in the sense that he had devastating offense in the ring; in the sense that everything he touched turned to shit.

WWF made him champion and he was one of the lowest-drawing champions of all time. He went to WCW and the NWO caught a lot of attention, but he made WCW all about him and basically choked the life out of it, even after Hogan had left. Seriously, looking at how he behaved in WCW, it was like he was TRYING to destroy the promotion for lulz. although he was admittedly far from the only deciding factor on that

Later he went to TNA and screwed that up as well, although that can also be put on Hogan with Nash just along for the ride. He came back to WWE and ruined the Summer of Punk.

And it’s not like he was ever even a good wrestler. He was tall, had an imposing presence, and had pretty good charisma on the mic (even if he didn’t know the difference between an adjective and a verb), but even Hogan was a better actual worker (never mind Hall, who was legit great).

I’m sure he has fans who will tell me at length how great he was and how I’m stupid, but the evidence is there in the trail of scorched earth stretching back for miles behind him.

Biggest drawing champ ever:

Those are just profits mind you.

 

[captkrisma]

It's weird because I'm sure Stardom would take her for the name recognition, but I actually can't imagine her trying to wrestle a main event with their top eight women.

I'll feel like Syuri would just legit beat the shit out of her at some point in the match.

She's a "safe midcard match with Hanan" type. No way I'd main event her.

 

[King Ghidorah]

On a similar track since hall was clearly the janetty of the "core" NWO why did he never get a single world title reign despite being clearly the best worker of the 3? Was it really something as simple as Hogan and nash wouldn't allow it as long as they were around? Or was it something else?

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

On a similar track since hall was clearly the janetty of the "core" NWO why did he never get a single world title reign despite being clearly the best worker of the 3? Was it really something as simple as Hogan and nash wouldn't allow it as long as they were around? Or was it something else?

Um maybe being a drunk?

 

[Big Scumfuck]

The more I think about it, the more I believe Kevin Nash may actually be one of the most destructive men in wrestling history. Not in the sense that he had devastating offense in the ring; in the sense that everything he touched turned to shit.

WWF made him champion and he was one of the lowest-drawing champions of all time. He went to WCW and the NWO caught a lot of attention, but he made WCW all about him and basically choked the life out of it, even after Hogan had left. Seriously, looking at how he behaved in WCW, it was like he was TRYING to destroy the promotion for lulz. although he was admittedly far from the only deciding factor on that

Later he went to TNA and screwed that up as well, although that can also be put on Hogan with Nash just along for the ride. He came back to WWE and ruined the Summer of Punk.

And it’s not like he was ever even a good wrestler. He was tall, had an imposing presence, and had pretty good charisma on the mic (even if he didn’t know the difference between an adjective and a verb), but even Hogan was a better actual worker (never mind Hall, who was legit great).

I’m sure he has fans who will tell me at length how great he was and how I’m stupid, but the evidence is there in the trail of scorched earth stretching back for miles behind him.

Money and miles, that's all that matters

 

[King Ghidorah]

Um maybe being a drunk?

Fair enough though it's not like companies haven't put their main belt on worse

 

[Hucklejo]

Whooo boy I was wrong about it being a work.

Apparently Molly Holly was the one who broke the news that the original plans were still going on, that it would lead to a breakup angle. They already announced the main event by then, and the two walked out shortly after the show rundown. Vince was at Gorilla (as usual), so he had no idea what was happening backstage between the two and producers until it was too late. The promo with Becky Lynch and Adam Pierce was completely done on the fly at Becky's request.

The feeling from the other wrestlers backstage is that Banks and Naomi walking out came out of left field and that they are taking themselves too seriously.

They are absolutely taking themselves too seriously. To the rest of the current convo about Kevin Nash, say whatever you want about him but he's a prophet as evidenced by Sasha/Naomi last night. The marks are in the fucking ring.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Someone landed on their head on Dark after doing a dive. I guess they're alright if the spot still aired.

 

[Big Scumfuck]

I've been hearing rumors that due to the Hitler salute thing, Nash Carter/Zachary Wentz has been secretly removed as part of the next WWE 2k22 DLC from within the files, as MSK is no longer listed as a team in there..
This is from the guy who's dug through the game's files to get wrestlers that are locked behind modes and putting them up as DLC.
The 2K site lists him as still being in but if they end up removing him at the last minute, that'd be fucking shitty. Could it potentially lead to a class action due to them not putting a disclaimer about changes to DLC post announcements?

 

[King Ghidorah]

As someone who fucking hates smarks and general smark culture as it has overtaken the industry I kinda want to aks fellow farmers who watch our retarded sport

WHEN DID YOU HIT PEAK SMARK AND WHY?

 

[XYZpdq]

Money and miles, that's all that matters

yeah as much as I have reasons as a viewer to dislike Nash, I don't blame him at all.
and that stuff with Paparazzi Productions was great

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

The 2K site lists him as still being in but if they end up removing him at the last minute, that'd be fucking shitty. Could it potentially lead to a class action due to them not putting a disclaimer about changes to DLC post announcements?

I know a lot of you on this forum are on the spectrum, but please consider for one second how stupid the idea of getting hundreds of people together to form a class action lawsuit over Nash fucking Carter being DLC is. He'd just join guys like Yoshi Tatsu who were DLC and literally nobody fucking used.