Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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I don't know if you're just being obtuse or if you're unaware of what went on in the Donbass for the last eight years, but Ukrainian ethnocentrism has been the official policy of Ukraine for some time. And if you're going to try to compare this to the US Civil War, don't. Secession was over economic issues, of which slavery was merely a part, and certainly not the defining reason for the break, tariffs were.
You people ("what do you mean you people?") always resort to the "you didn't know what went on for the last eight years" without ever clarifying what the accusation even is. We've discussed the 2014-2022 events at great lengths, and yet again you flip the chess board and request starting from scratch with the "muh eight years". We know about them. We've been talking about it for 1700 pages.
Ireland for one lol.
Great example. If Ireland said that they'd remove English as one of the languages that could be used officially, is that genocide or just being assholes to the British?
I don't understand the picture. If the right half is trying to convey that the pattern is not Ukrainian and that they use digital camo similar to US Army ACUs then it's from someone who is ignorant. You can see that pattern in the usual Azov pic and in the clip where the Azov guy tells a woman no one is allowed to leave.
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That camo pattern is Multicam, which everyone and their mom uses. It's impossible to tell who that uniform belongs to unless you look at the details like the style of cut and where pockets are placed.
Fun fact, OMRP and PDSS units are known to wear multicam.
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Great example. If Ireland said that they'd remove English as one of the languages that could be used officially, is that genocide or just being assholes to the British?
I never said anything about genocide lol. I'm just talking about language and its cultural significance to the speakers of a language and commenting on potential side effects of language suppression.
So, no, it would not be genocide obviously. It would just be very retarded. I don't think the Brits would give two shits about what ROI decides to do with English, if banning or suppressing it were ever a realistic possibility (which it obviously isn't).
The Irish language was actually historically suppressed by the English and there is still sore sentiment towards the English because of that. Well, one of the reasons.
The Ukraine suppressing Russian for literally millions of speakers multiple times the population of Ireland is likely to sow similar sentiment.
Russia isn't innocent of this either, especially back in the USSR days. It just isn't a good approach imo.
 
It's the equivalent of asking to prove a negative.
You still could present evidence that is the true, for example there could be series of photos from satellite from given period. We don't have access to that, but we can agree that evidence could exist. Also, we could agree on, what level of sloppy propaganda fuck up is too much.
How about reversing a video to deny a Ukrainian tank is towing a Russian one, and claim it is the opposite?

I tell you that: when I look at what putinbois believe it is mindbending to me. How could you believe that, and could we believe similar bullshit. Are we also propagandized to that level?

However then I'm reminding myself that russian propaganda, as well as people from this thread are constantly going back on their words or saying straight up ridiculous shit. Examples like "Kiev will fall in 3 days" by RIA news in Russia, or "Great push in Donbass will crush Ukraine" or "Ukrainians are using black magic".
 
You still could present evidence that is the true, for example there could be series of photos from satellite from given period. We don't have access to that, but we can agree that evidence could exist. Also, we could agree on, what level of sloppy propaganda fuck up is too much.
Sure but it's a waste of time to go "Well if I had all of this stuff I don't have then I could believe X." That can go either way for anything and is a waste of time. I don't get why you're so hung up on it but this ties back to your irrationality.
I tell you that: when I look at what putinbois believe it is mindbending to me. How could you believe that, and could we believe similar bullshit. Are we also propagandized to that level?

However then I'm reminding myself that russian propaganda, as well as people from this thread are constantly going back on their words or saying straight up ridiculous shit. Examples like "Kiev will fall in 3 days" by RIA news in Russia, or "Great push in Donbass will crush Ukraine" or "Ukrainians are using black magic".
All that stuff you quoted as apparently applying to this thread, mind quoting one of those posts?
 
All that stuff you quoted as apparently applying to this thread, mind quoting one of those posts?

Will have to endure a few days of Ukrainian triumphposting until the culminating Russian offensive in the Donbas kicks off and half the professional Ukrainian army is annihilated
The black magic story is from Russian media: https://ria.ru/20220504/magiya-1786707582.html
As well as "we will take Kiry in 2 days!": https://archive.ph/kRSt3
RIA news is russian state media.

About dumb post from this thread I already lost count and stopped bookmarking those, here are example:
https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1OdKrBgvAMzKX Gonzalo Lira podcast 4 days ago explaining what is going on from Kharkov, or so he claims. Regardless of if he is full of shit or not, his theory was correct and he turned out to be right. Russia created a shit ton of pockets, turned them into cauldrons, and the dumb as fuck Western media are eating the Ukrainian propaganda hook line and sinker.
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Or like whole BIOLABS saga.
 
Even more Ukrainian soldiers came out with Azovstal




Some of them look very bad. I suppose this should be expected in the absence of medications for a month.
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Russian news has always said dumb stuff, I was only asking about what people post in this thread and I think your examples don't represent what you said.

@Richardface's post - The Donbass isn't going in Ukraine's favor as far as I know, though triumphposting while simultaneously asking for billions in aid is indefinite.
@The Other Baldwin - What did he say that is wrong? The "cauldron" thing is what Russia does, it's well known. I don't think those our as outrageous posts as you think.

edit: There are Kiev-feint posts one page over you could have referenced though I get that it's not in line with the quotes. This isn't worth going back and forth over, this thread isn't very copey in my opinion is my only point and poor Richardface isn't even able to defend himself I don't think. ❤️
 
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Russian news has always said dumb stuff, I was only asking about what people post in this thread and I think your examples don't represent what you said.
However then I'm reminding myself that russian propaganda, as well as people from this thread are constantly going back on their words or saying straight up ridiculous shit.
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@The Other Baldwin - What did he say that is wrong? The "cauldron" thing is what Russia does, it's well known. I don't think those our as outrageous posts as you think.
You need to open images in that post to see that
 
You need to open images in that post to see that
"...russian propaganda, as well as people from this thread..."
Then you post two posts that aren't going back on their words (?) or saying ridiculous shit? I don't keep up with the map autism to know if the map is clown-tier or not. If the thread was that bad you wouldn't need to go back hundreds of pages to find posts meeting the criteria anyway.

Gonna shut up now as I know I hate catching up and sifting through an entire page (or more...) of non-info.
 
The black magic story is from Russian media: https://ria.ru/20220504/magiya-1786707582.html
As well as "we will take Kiry in 2 days!": https://archive.ph/kRSt3
RIA news is russian state media.

About dumb post from this thread I already lost count and stopped bookmarking those, here are example:

Or like whole BIOLABS saga.
UNSC is actively manœuvring to avoid engaging with Russia on biolab and bioweapon claims 🙃. The claims are there and are being made, very clearly and in-depth. Not commenting on their truthfulness, but the reality is that member states are advising each other to avoid or limit engagement with Russia as much as possible to avoid legitimising them in as many ways as possible.
Even the possibility that even a fraction of Russia's concerns are justifiable would be bad for NATO's propaganda war.
 
Afaik he has an injured jaw/neck/tongue(as in, missing chunks out of all three). Bloated tongue might be a result of simply not having proper antibiotics.
I find it hard to believe they had none-not that it isn't the case but antibiotics are basic bitch supplies in bunkers. My ex did construction and I came over for lunch to a site near my apartment he was working at. The owner was there and he showed me barrels that had been stocked in basement when it was a designated a fallout shelter. Food, (like crackers and canned stuff) and atropine/antibiotics. He let me have what I wanted (they were throwing it out) so I took a little bottle of atropine and repurposed it. It was just a civilian bunker/shelter from the 1960s, today a military bunker would include more including a broad spectrum of antibiotics.

It's also possible they used them all up. Some of those injuries look very serious, the kind that require a doctor to make a quick assessment and do some cutting, which medics aren't really trained to do. Those guy might be in better shape had they surrendered a couple of weeks ago. Infection travels fast despite antibiotics if the source of it isn't addressed properly.
 
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