Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Male Idiot]

Ruskies will win, but more bloodily than previously I would have thought.

Piggos are making them bleed. Erdrogan Gigachad, Mighty Turkish Sultan and Israel, Greatest Ally, are winning.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Kiwifarms. Never before has there been a thread with so many people completely disconnected from reality, schizoposting about how Hohols/Vatniks are totally owning everyone and winning the war guys, and autistically screeching at each other about how their side is committing the least amount of war crimes.

On a side note i find it endlessly amusing how Ruskies did a total 180 on their sabre rattling in relation to Finland.

One other thing i will note, Russia seems to have a tendency to fail upwards so short of it seriously fucking up and getting other countries involved militarily, it will probably be fine.

They are getting their asses kicked in Ukraine. What are they going to do with Finland? It also makes the Russians excuse for invading Ukraine look like total BS, like most people know it is. Putin even said that Finland and Sweden joining NATO are no threat to Russia. They can't do anything about it anyway.

 

[White_N]

Ruskies will win, but more bloodily than previously I would have thought.

Piggos are making them bleed. Erdrogan Gigachad, Mighty Turkish Sultan and Israel, Greatest Ally, are winning.

You forgot to mention the big jade rod, Mister Xi himself.

 

[Agent of Z.O.G.]

Zelensky's life story was turned into a comic book.

Thought TidalWave(formerly BlueWater and also apparently Stormfront) would have folded by now since they've been putting out bottom of the barrel shit for decades.

Spoiler: Their more recent works

Stormy Daniels: Space Force (same illustrator)

 

[No. 7 cat]

Deny the west resources. Taking Kiev would have accomplished that without infrastructure damage across the country. Now Russia has denied the west resources and fucked Ukrainian infrastructure into the ground.

Please look up definition of "Pyrrhric victory."

Things will pick up again when Ukrainian forces start cracking from the strain.

This is psychiatric levels of delusion. If you believe Russia lost just 1300 troops as Lavrov still says, that the flag ship Moskva and other vessels just vanished (its dead sailors are mostly classed as AWOL), if you think the attack on Kyiv, Sumy and other population were masterstroke diversions rather than failures that has the whole civilised world laughing at Russia, the delusion can be comprehended. I hope you get better.

Russia has barely the economic output of NYC or Belgium. Europeans and Americans are still overwhelmingly sending near expired and obsolete systems like Stinger, S300 and T-72 (but more competently updated and maintained). Ukraine has plenty of updated (Neptune) and well maintained Soviet gear (BUK, Hind, MIG-29, Mil Mi-17 etc.) plus their own purchases along with NATO training. Russia might be trying still to obstruct food exports (10% of the world's grain), but this has only one outcome, defeat for Putin.

I note someone mentions PRC. They are complying with US Treasury regs. The Chinese surely appreciate the dirty cheap natural gas and purchases of unencrypted Baofeng radios and assorted cast offs.

 

[Male Idiot]

This is psychiatric levels of delusion. If you believe Russia lost just 1300 troops as Lavrov still says, that the flag ship Moskva and other vessels just vanished (its dead sailors are mostly classed as AWOL), if you think the attack on Kyiv, Sumy and other population were masterstroke diversions rather than failures that has the whole civilised world laughing at Russia, the delusion can be comprehended. I hope you get better.

Russia has barely the economic output of NYC or Belgium. Europeans and Americans are still overwhelmingly sending near expired and obsolete systems like Stinger, S300 and T-72 (but more competently updated and maintained). Ukraine has plenty of updated (Neptune) and well maintained Soviet gear (BUK, Hind, MIG-29, Mil Mi-17 etc.) plus their own purchases along with NATO training. Russia might be trying still to obstruct food exports (10% of the world's grain), but this has only one outcome, defeat for Putin.

You do know which button he'll mistake for a banana at that point, right?

I mean California getting nuked would be worth it...

 

[UVB-76]

It was a masterstroke from the Ukrainians to use Kiev as a feint. It forced the Russian invasion to split its forces.

 

[No. 7 cat]

You do know which button he'll mistake for a banana at that point, right?

I mean California getting nuked would be worth it...

Now maybe Commiefornia can be exempted from any nuke penalties.

If Putin had confined his ambitions to the Donetsk and Lugansk oblasts, via updated 2014 'little green men' methods, at worst, his 'special operation' probably wouldn't have had the present fallout.

 

[White_N]

whole civilised world laughing at Russia

Russia has barely the economic output of NYC or Belgium

this has only one outcome, defeat for Putin.

You are hired.

 

[No. 7 cat]

You are hired.
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Cool man. If I was a journo, the al Beeba behemoth is not a bad place. Rather better than RT, Sputnik or RIA-Novosti.

 

[Male Idiot]

Cool man. If I was a journo, the al Beeba behemoth is not a bad place. Rather better than RT, Sputnik or RIA-Novosti.

Nothing can be as bad as the BBC. Maybe Al Jazeera or BBc in goat.

 

[Bold&Brash]

What's the suprise?

 

[DumbDude42]

Nothing can be as bad as the BBC. Maybe Al Jazeera or BBc in goat.

niggerspeak bbc is the best of them all

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

This is psychiatric levels of delusion. If you believe Russia lost just 1300 troops as Lavrov still says, that the flag ship Moskva and other vessels just vanished (its dead sailors are mostly classed as AWOL), if you think the attack on Kyiv, Sumy and other population were masterstroke diversions rather than failures that has the whole civilised world laughing at Russia, the delusion can be comprehended. I hope you get better.

Russia has barely the economic output of NYC or Belgium. Europeans and Americans are still overwhelmingly sending near expired and obsolete systems like Stinger, S300 and T-72 (but more competently updated and maintained). Ukraine has plenty of updated (Neptune) and well maintained Soviet gear (BUK, Hind, MIG-29, Mil Mi-17 etc.) plus their own purchases along with NATO training. Russia might be trying still to obstruct food exports (10% of the world's grain), but this has only one outcome, defeat for Putin.

I note someone mentions PRC. They are complying with US Treasury regs. The Chinese surely appreciate the dirty cheap natural gas and purchases of unencrypted Baofeng radios and assorted cast offs.

The delusion and all the copium huffing from the vatnik Russiaboo fags has been hilarious from the start. But yeah, it's serious mental illness levels of delusion.

Russia doing anything in Ukraine is not going to deny the West resources, most certainly not the US. Russia has the GDP of Italy. That 40 billion the US just gave Ukraine is just 20 billion shy of Russia's yearly defense budget. They spend $60 billion a year on defense and as we can all see from Ukraine it's not going into their army. Russia denying Western Europe oil and natural gas just hurts Russia because they depend on the euros they get from Western Europe. It makes up 30% of their economy. Russia imports more than it exports. Western Europe has already cut itself off from Russian oil. Last I heard the Russians were sending the oil to India. They have to ship it from their Baltic Sea port all the way around Africa to India and by the time the oil gets there it's going to be devalued because of shipping cost. The Russians and Indians haggled over the deal and the Russians said they could pay in rubles and the Indians said no, they would pay in worthless rupees. So, the Russians used to get euros for the oil which are about equivalent to dollars in exchange rate. Then the Indians said they wanted a discount and I believe they agreed to a 30% or 50% discount. The Russians are so desperate they agreed to all of it.

 

[Ponzo]

Now maybe Commiefornia can be exempted from any nuke penalties.

If Putin had confined his ambitions to the Donetsk and Lugansk oblasts, via updated 2014 'little green men' methods, at worst, his 'special operation' probably wouldn't have had the present fallout.

Russia already achieved most of what they came for. They control a big land bridge to crimea with an ethnic russian majority and control the fresh water north of crimea



Since Ukraine won't sit down and refuses to cut a deal i would not be surprised if they even end up grabbing most territories up to the Dnipro River.

niggerspeak bbc is the best of them all
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That Russian looks like he just spent a week being waterboarded in the SBU basement

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

What's the suprise?

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Putin has already said that Finland and Sweden joining NATO are of no threat to Russia and aren't a concern. Totally making his excuses for invading Ukraine look even more like the total 100% grade A BS that they are.

The surprise is nothing. There is nothing Russia can do.

 

[kuuu]

I liked it when the guy shat on modern western democracy concept and went full "India uber alles".

Indian English accent is one of the most foul things in existence.

 

[Ponzo]

 

[Fougaro]

Deki, the Serb sniper whose stream I posted pages ago, did another Q&A stream. Tism post incoming!

Key takeaways:

• Because the Russians destroyed most of Ukraine’s rail bridges, foreign equipment is arriving on two major locations. The Russians wait until the stuff arrives and then bomb it. Sometimes however the equipment does arrive at its destination. Most of the western military hardware the Ukrainians receive are things the Europeans are able to smuggle through civilian trucks.
• Recently the Ukrainians got artillery pieces from the United States which in action was almost immediately destroyed. Deki promised that in a few days he’ll post some videos of it.
• Speaking of which, the Russians do have some GoPro footage of their own. The fact that we only get stuff that has been approved by the Russian MOD is one of the reasons we have so little Russian footage (excluding the Chechens).
• In regards to Kharkov Kharkiv Deki repeats more or less what he said last time. The Russian troops there were mostly understaffed and under equipped LPR troops with neither air nor artillery support. Their retreat was not a 4D gamer move, but a genuine L they took. The Ukrainians did a good job scouting out the area and preparing for that battle.
• Deki estimates that the Ukrainians are currently outnumbering the Russians 5:1 now and 10:1 very soon, which to the Russians is of no concern since what the Ukrainians have in quantity, they severely lack in quality. He doesn't expect Russia to send any reinforcements, let alone to mobilise, since the sentiment seems to be that what the Russians have in Ukraine is "more than enough".
• As funny as the “two more weeks” meme is to dab on the (pro-)Russians – and personally I think it is, Russia has no official timetable for the SpedOp and is in no hurry.
• The main priority now is the Donbass campaign. After that the SpedOp should go on faster, but it is still going to take a good while. What hampers Russian advances into the big cities the most are their orders to keep civilian casualties at a reasonable minimum. The Russians also put a much greater emphasis on destroying the Ukrainian military and inflicting as many casualties as possible, mostly through artillery and aircraft from which the Ukrainians take most of their losses, over taking territories. If the Donbass campaign is successful, Nikolayev Mikolayiv and Odessa are most likely next.
• Deki confirms the rumours that the Russian military is currently undergoing a purge. A part of the officer corps were fucking things up through criminal incompetence and just as much, if not more so, through active sabotage. The reason for that being said officers are butthurt at Putin over the sanctions lowering their standard of living and their way of getting back at him was to compromise the entire op. Unsurprisingly, most of these officers in question were, as a lot people even some on the Farms IIRC rightly speculated, appointed through bribery and nepotism rather than merit. These troublemakers were already sacked and replaced and Deki said how Russia will "show no mercy to them". It would explain Russia’s poor counter-intelligence track record. IIRC, Deki did mention in an earlier stream in March at some of the dead Russian generals were actually oofed by the Russians themselves. Pretty wild if true.
• Around 90% of the Russian people have now a better opinion of Putin than before the SpedOp.
• There are, as I'm writing this, still some 1,500-ish people left in the Azovstal cumpit while around 1,000 have been evacuated by the Russians. The commanders of the Azov Battalion and the foreigners (likely NATO officers/instructors) are still inside and have yet to officially surrender. The people from inside Azovstal are let out in small numbers so that they can be more effectively screened wheras the wounded are immediately sent to hospitals. The civilians and civil servants (cops, firefighters, EMTs etc.) were used as human shields by the Azov Battalion and are now expected to be exchanged for Russian POWs. What makes it for the Russians easier to find out who committed war crimes is the fact that the Azov Nazi LARPers are all too eager to snitch on each other. The victory at Mariu/pol/' was also a significant morale boost for the Russians.
• Russia is dead-set that not a single member of the Azov Battalion or any other Neo-Nazi LARP militia will be exchanged or otherwise returned to Ukraine, and there is absolutely nothing Ukraine can offer to get them back. Instead the Azovites will be tried for war crimes. A small number of them will remain in Russia, while the majority will be put at the mercy of the DPR and LPR, who unlike Russia, still have the death penalty. In other words: They’re fucked. Every single one of them will almost certainly be executed after a Nürnberg style (show) trial. Foreign volunteers and mercenaries BTW will be treated the same. When you play stupid games, you win stupid prises. Are you winning Reddit?
• Denys Prokopenko, one of the commanders of the Azov Battalion who makes all these videos from Azovstal you see so many times on the news, is according to Deki a stolen valour LARPer who never actually fought on the front lines a single day in his life. Deki describes Prokopenko as a guy who has the typical looks of "someone who hasn't seen a single day of combat". Prokopenko is merely a media figure the Ukrainians sent there for propaganda purposes. Personally I don't think the idea of a bunch of LARPers being led by a LARPer himself is that far fetched, it's even quite appropriate.
• The regular Ukrainian army did the overwhelming majority, if not the entire fighting in Mariu/pol/’. The Azov Battalion’s sole contribution on that front was harassing and murdering civilians.
• Deki speculates that the Azov commanders and NATO officers/instructors will remain in the cumpit deluding themselves that the Western politicians and the rest of the world will get them out of Azovstal somehow. Russia hopes to capture them for a massive propaganda victory. Alternatively the Azov commanders and their NATO friends will be left to starve to death and buried alive inside like servants of an ancient pharaoh.
• As of today, officially around 7,500 Russians have been confirmed KIA. 3,500 of the regular Russian military and 4,000 of the LPR and DPR combined. While Russian casualties of 3,5K are not insignificant for a 200K army, losing 4K people for an army that combined consists of 35K is kind of an oof for the LPR and DRP to say the least.
• In regards to the Severodonetsk river pontoon bridge fiasco: At first there was a small Russian unit present that got felted by the Ukrainians. Then the Russians destroyed the Ukrainians with artillery and took over the position. And then the Ukrainians covered the place again. According to Deki there are 31 destroyed vehicles, of which 20 are Ukrainian and 11 Russian. If true, it would explain why you can see both exclusively Ukrainian armour and Z-painted vehicles there. The main lesson here however is that the Ukrainians have excellent intel (which is provided by the United States) and an effective propaganda machinery.
• Contrary to some rumours, Russia hasn’t shifted its goalposts and is still dead-set on seeing its officially stated goals through, which includes “demilitarisation” and “denazification”. The latter was described by Deki as literally exterminating the Azov, Aidar and other Nazi LARPing battalions.
• The Chechens, at least the Kadyrovtsy, are almost uncharacteristically kind towards civilians, especially towards children. Shocking if true, given their history.
• A second attempt at Kevin isn't in the cards right now. Deki too is of the opinion that the op was meant to tie down as many Ukrainian troops as possible because if the Ukrainian military is defeated, it will be in the Donbass and not Kevin. As a matter of fact, any advance into a major city is currently on hold until enough Ukrainian military infrastructure and equipment has been destroyed via artillery and aircraft. Both the hope and the cope is that if the Russians stack up enough dead Ukrainian soldiers, Ukraine will throw the towel without the need to storm the capital. Given that Burgerstan is more than willing to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian, I personally have my doubts. As said, the Donbass campaign has right now the highest priority and what will come after that remains to be seen.
• Contrary to some histrionic retards - be it on Twitter, Reddit, among alleged "journalists" or even on the Farms, Russia has, even if they take half of Ukraine, no intention of eradicating Ukrainian identity or genociding the Ukrainians in any other way shape or form. A lot of DPR and LPR fighters are Ukrainians themselves who want Ukraine in the same intimate relationship with Russia as during the Soviet days.
• Regarding POWs in general: The Russians estimate that they have around 5,000 Ukrainian POWs and estimate additional 10K in the near future. Regular Ukrainian troops will be either exchanged for Russian POWs or stay in Russian custody for the remainder of the war if they choose to do so. A number of Ukrainian POWs pick the second option instead of returning home only for Zelinsky to immediately throw them back into the meat grinder. The Russians want to exchange their POWs for the Ukrainians’, which Zelinsky flat out refuses. He’s only willing to trade imprisoned pro-Russian and other Ukrainian opposition politicians for Ukrainian POWs.
• Zelinsky allegedly wanted to capitulate after two months which is why some optimists on the Russian side believed they would be done by the Victory Day on May 9th, but was forced by the Burgers to keep on keeping on and to believe in the Endsieg.
• Speaking of May 9th, the recent catastrophic defeat the Ukrainians suffered on Snake Island, what should have been a major propaganda victory, was a military operation planned by British officers. Fucking omegalul if true.
• Since Ukraine has declared general mobilisation, a lot of (male) Ukrainian civilians left the cities and villages and were hiding in the woods. And since the borders with the EU are closed, they’re trapped. Personally, I wonder if it’s not too late for them to beg Belarus and Russia for asylum/amnesty.
• While in the west there was indeed an anti-Russian hysteria going on due to normalfags normalfagging, the average Russian people reacted with the utmost schadenfreude when they heard the news about their oligarchs having their property confiscated abroad. The oligarchs are, to my understanding, a disproportionately powerful parasite class more or less akin to the eunuchs in ancient China, and are seen as thieves and vultures who are blamed for the average Russian having to eat shit, both figuratively and literally.
• Deki confirms that the Russians did indeed capture a Hugh Jazz amount of Javelins. Problem: The Javelin is even more of an overhyped meme weapon than the Bayraktar. 90% of the time it doesn’t even work, and when it does, it doesn’t do shit against armour than can withstand more than harsh words. Tanks with active protections systems have to be hit up to seven times to be killed. Deki has even fewer kind words for the NLAW and described its performance as “absolutely catastrophic”. The Ukrainians are destroying Russian armour mostly either with their artillery or with their native Soviet era TUR/ТУР(?) system. Personally I'm starting to wonder if instead of weapons the Burgers are sending action movie props to the Ukrainians, which would be an epic practical joke.
• The biggest problem the DPR and LPR armies have is the lack of bullet proof vests, night vision goggles, thermal vision, quality boots etc. The regular Russian military has basically everything they need.
• When asked about the biolabs, Deki said he can only repeat what has been officially stated: Two of them have been taken by the Russians who are now combing through the files. One of the labs was apparently specialised in conducting research on how viruses can be transported through animals, in particular bats. Sounds interesting and I'd normally wait for it to be either confirmed or deboonked, but I have long ago given up hope that we don't live in a world where Francis E. Dec was right all along.

That would be it for now. I understand if some people here are sceptical, and rightfully so. Deki is mostly giving his perspective from the Donbass Front while recounting second-hand info from everywhere else, which I'm writing up for the sake of posterity to see what will turn out to be true and what not.

If Deki does another Q&A stream I will do another summary if there is still an interest for it.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Russia already achieved most of what they came for. They control a big land bridge to crimea with an ethnic russian majority and control the fresh water north of crimea

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Since Ukraine won't sit down and refuses to cut a deal i would not be surprised if they even end up grabbing most territories up to the Dnipro River.



That Russian looks like he just spent a week being waterboarded in the SBU basement

Pure cope. Putin thought he had free real estate. The Donbas and landbridge to the Crimea is a severe scaling back of Putin's ambition, and they still do not have the full Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts. He can barely utter the word Ukraine. He denies its nationhood. Barring some post 2014 settlers, (many now selling up in Crimea) plus some of the mostly far eastern Russian forces, there are no 'ethnic Russians' in Ukraine. Almost all Ukrainians can understand or speak both quite similar languages with people identifying with, or using one or the another in preference. Ukrainians increasingly opt for Ukrainian which they were strongly discouraged from speaking, at best, in Soviet times, and on account of monke's outrages. Putin won't be allowed gain from this war, and Russia has lost so much already, albeit relatively few enough from Moscow and St Petes. Ukraine is eating away at the Russian gains slowly but surely in both the north and south and the central pushes look set to be another RU tragedy.