US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

The way Tucker got so heated yesterday I'm starting to believe he's genuinely emotionally invested in this, which would make sense, considering his race.

Tucker has been on a role for the last week or so. The only other vaguely watchable Foxbot is Dana Perino.

Imagine if it somehow reaches $10/gallon..

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I shooped...

 

[Gehenna]

I have a question, so I've never really understood the idea of having the US go through a managed decline, at least from the pov of the political class and the elite. I understand it as a concept but in practice it's insane, even if you get rich off it where are you even going to go if the US goes to hell. The US collapsing would cause such huge problems that you'd be pretty much screwed no matter where you went, so I'm left wondering what the plan is, or hell if they even have a plan

They all expect to be dead by the time shit hits the fan, and they will have secured their immediate descendants for their foreseeable lifespans.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Donkey Chompers is engaged to her longtime "partner" Riley Roberts, a ginger Harry knockoff.

 

[Cuckoman]

Manchin is at a crossroads he seems unsure of how to cross. He doesn't seem to want to switch over to the Republicans but it is also clear he no longer wants to be a Democrat either. He is going through the song and dance on the smaller things but its like a robot. Just mechanical "yes" vote without any soul.

The democratic party will change quite dramatically over the next few years as they will have to rebuild and refocus after having gone too far left. Maybe he is just positioning himself so that once the party purges the progressives and returns to the centre that people will remember that HE was the democrat that stood up against the crazies.

 

[Sithis]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1527438623452413952?s=19

Seems the Left has grown tired of Elon embarrassing them and has pulled out their favorite smear

 

[Wayfaring_$tranger]

They all expect to be dead by the time shit hits the fan, and they will have secured their immediate descendants for their foreseeable lifespans.

I want to say how the fuck could anyone be that short-sighted, but at this point I can't really say that it's suprising given the people we are dealing with

 

[mandatorylurk]

Business Insider ran that horrible smear attempt of Dave Portnoy who is going to sue the ever loving shit out of them, I expect the same thing here.

 

[Gehenna]

I want to say how the fuck could anyone be that short-sighted, but at this point I can't really say that it's suprising given the people we are dealing with

Its the end result of a cultural shift more and more towards viewing short-term profits over long-term growth. Its why I don't entirely reject the commie point of "Late-stage capitalism". In some ways they are right. Our system has grown beyond corrupt and it can largely be linked to a form of capitalism which has gone totally off the rails. Which in turn empowers the commies who actively make it worse by inserting their -own- corrupt policies. So we end up with corruption on top of corruption.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

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https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1527438623452413952?s=19

Seems the Left has grown tired of Elon embarrassing them and has pulled out their favorite smear

>hitting Elon with #MeToo bullshit, just like they did Teflon Don

That's how you know they ain't got nothing on him. Also, thanks for proving his point about how this shit will doom us to live on this barren planet forever by going after SpaceX specifically.

 

[GuntPunt]

I have a question, so I've never really understood the idea of having the US go through a managed decline, at least from the pov of the political class and the elite. I understand it as a concept but in practice it's insane, even if you get rich off it where are you even going to go if the US goes to hell. The US collapsing would cause such huge problems that you'd be pretty much screwed no matter where you went, so I'm left wondering what the plan is, or hell if they even have a plan

Look at the ruling political class. Many are older than 60 and many more have no children. They have no stakes in the future so they would rather burn it down to make some scratch.

US Competition after the Cold War drastically diminished and it was at the time declared the "End of History" because "we accomplished everything humanly possible" which is beyond stupid. Decades of having no direct competitor meant politicians didn't need to keep up appearances and manage the country because it was at very little risk with it being the world's largest and only superpower. So they shifted to just pure money making mode. And with the former pillar of "keep the country running" knocked out, they could start doing things at the expense of the country.

And if they "lose the Congress or the presidency?" Who cares! The entrenched ones like Pelosi, McConnell and Shumer could be a corpse and still win their elections. They play the show for the cameras and have a friendly dinner at 7 in Northern Virginia the same day.

Trump changed it. He was and still is an exsitential threat to the grift by getting him and MAGA candidates elected. That's why they hate him.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Its the end result of a cultural shift more and more towards viewing short-term profits over long-term growth. Its why I don't entirely reject the commie point of "Late-stage capitalism". In some ways they are right. Our system has grown beyond corrupt and it can largely be linked to a form of capitalism which has gone totally off the rails. Which in turn empowers the commies who actively make it worse by inserting their -own- corrupt policies. So we end up with corruption on top of corruption.

Congressional
Term
Limits
Now

 

[Gehenna]

Congressional
Term
Limits
Now

No, that'd only replace the bad with a different kind of bad. California has term limits and it suffers its own massive corruption issues. Namely, the lobbyists get massive power because nobody can get in long enough to gain a real mastery of the system.

Hence why they keep making almonds despite the forest fires.

 

[Constellationzero]

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https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1527438623452413952?s=19

Seems the Left has grown tired of Elon embarrassing them and has pulled out their favorite smear

OH MY GAHD...

IMMEDIATELY--INSTANTLY--I hit the link and the sign up warning box appears.

Only ever happens when the DNC is racking up MAJOR BIGLY LEAGUE L's.

Elon--get rid of this FUCKING warning box.

 

[MrJokerRager]

They all expect to be dead by the time shit hits the fan, and they will have secured their immediate descendants for their foreseeable lifespans.

Looks like they haven't read up on what happened to Oliver Cromwell's grave and his corpse when Charles the 2nd returned to the throne lol.

I have a question, so I've never really understood the idea of having the US go through a managed decline, at least from the pov of the political class and the elite. I understand it as a concept but in practice it's insane, even if you get rich off it where are you even going to go if the US goes to hell. The US collapsing would cause such huge problems that you'd be pretty much screwed no matter where you went, so I'm left wondering what the plan is, or hell if they even have a plan

Well either suck Chinese cock or run to New Zealand or you know what.

Remember a fine and charismatic gentlemam by the name of Charles Manson.

Manson believed that the blacks would once day start a race war against the Whites and destroy them. After the blacks would win, they would still be retarded and turn to Charles Manson for leadership.

The whole ideal is retarded but makes more sense than the endgame of managed decline.

These early baby boomers elites are cancerous cunts and I guess the American elites, their parents, in the 1930s to 1950s were godless subhuman infidel pigdogs and heretics looking at how current day boomer elites in charge turned out.

 

[LurkTrawl]

No, that'd only replace the bad with a different kind of bad. California has term limits and it suffers its own massive corruption issues. Namely, the lobbyists get massive power because nobody can get in long enough to gain a real mastery of the system.

hence why they keep making almonds despite the forest fires.

You cannot convince me that having congressional term limits of at least sixteen years wouldn't be an immediate boon to the nation. I'd rather have twelve years but I get why someone would want another four on top. All of the asshole geriatrics we have in right now have a lot of "mastery of the system" and look how we're doing right now. Something has to be done to keep these cretins from just sitting in office for two, three, four or even fucking five(!) decades in a row.

And if lobbyists are the problem then maybe, just maybe that is a problem that needs to be solved as well.

 

[pwnest injun]

I have a question, so I've never really understood the idea of having the US go through a managed decline, at least from the pov of the political class and the elite. I understand it as a concept but in practice it's insane, even if you get rich off it where are you even going to go if the US goes to hell. The US collapsing would cause such huge problems that you'd be pretty much screwed no matter where you went, so I'm left wondering what the plan is, or hell if they even have a plan

I think that they want to form a global corporate government, which requires that the current hegemon shed its constitutional government and reform its economic system that allows it to purchase all the goods it wants with a never-ending stream of fiat currency.

 

[Potatoherder]

>hitting Elon with #MeToo bullshit, just like they did Teflon Don
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That's how you know they ain't got nothing on him. Also, thanks for proving his point about how this shit will doom us to live on this barren planet forever by going after SpaceX specifically.

All while a massive trial is going on that is tearing #metoo to shreds.

 

[tehpope]

OH MY GAHD...

IMMEDIATELY--INSTANTLY--I hit the link and the sign up warning box appears.

Only ever happens when the DNC is racking up MAJOR BIGLY LEAGUE L's.

Elon--get rid of this FUCKING warning box.

Just use nitter.

 

[Gehenna]

You cannot convince me that having congressional term limits of at least sixteen years wouldn't be an immediate boon to the nation. I'd rather have twelve years but I get why someone would want another four on top. All of the asshole geriatrics we have in right now have a lot of "mastery of the system" and look how we're doing right now.

And if lobbyists are the problem then maybe, just maybe that is a problem that needs to be solved as well.

Lobbyist reform is literally impossible. Let me explain why in brief.

It is impossible to define a lobbyist in any meaningful way that doesn't either run afoul of the first amendment or which is simply unworkable. Why? Well, what -is- a lobbyist? Your mind immediately goes to billion dollar company sending people to washington. This is lobbying... but what else is lobbying?

Have you ever contacted your local politician? Congratulations, you are a lobbyist.

Lobbying is any entreatment of a politician to perform an act. This goes from billion dollar companies asking for tax breaks all the way to grandma asking her politician to name a streat after the mayor's dog. Its all lobbying and there is no real way to legislate regulations on it that does not run afoul of the first amendment right of individuals to interact with the politicians. Lobbying reform is often put on the table as an idea, but the actual nitty gritty of making it is a -nightmare-.


But, let me suggest a change to the system that will get your intended effect and is also workable.


Repeal. The Seventeenth. Amendment.

Fuck the 17th, its the source of so many issues. Senators are not meant to be elected by the public, having them chosen by the state legislatures was meant as a break on insanity and meant that political parties had to always consider their states interests as a whole since it defacto made each senator have to go through its own electoral college. And made it a -lot- easier to primary senators because it meant that senators had to worry about enough rural districts getting pissy.

 

[GuntPunt]

No, that'd only replace the bad with a different kind of bad. California has term limits and it suffers its own massive corruption issues. Namely, the lobbyists get massive power because nobody can get in long enough to gain a real mastery of the system.

Hence why they keep making almonds despite the forest fires.

How do you feel about repealing the 17th Amendment and bringing back electing US Senators based on the state legislatures instead of statewide popular vote like now?

Edit: Goddamn it. Atleast I got my answer.