Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[kuuu]

The commander of the 36th Marine Infantry Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Sergei Volynsky (call sign Volyn), left the Azovstal enterprise in Mariupol and surrendered.


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Volyn shaved, cut his hair before parting with Kalina

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

More hilarious than "Americans will stage a coup in Ukraine and give out cookies to people so they overthrow their Russia-aligned president"? Or "Americans will shake a test tube with God knows what to convince the world there are weapons of mass destruction in a country that had the gall to defy them"?

Oh wait.

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Yes, more hilarious than that.

Iraq did have weapons of mass destruction. They were stored as easily mixed precursors so the definition of a chemical weapon could be avoided on a technicality.

 

[DumbDude42]

More hilarious than "Americans will stage a coup in Ukraine and give out cookies to people so they overthrow their Russia-aligned president"? Or "Americans will shake a test tube with God knows what to convince the world there are weapons of mass destruction in a country that had the gall to defy them"?

Oh wait.

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yeah, acts of piracy against neutral vessels on international waters would indeed be like 3 levels of magnitude more serious than the usual glowie shenanigans
acting like this is a serious option is just asinine, schizophrenia levels approaching sergey "hitler also had jewish blood" lavrov lol

 

[Borscht]

I'm sure the Russia-aligned president passing laws against free speech, free press, freedom of assembly, paying thugs to beat protesters and having riot police fire live rounds at crowds had a greater influence in the Ukrainian people's decisions.
But sure, let's look at a token sign of good will through an even more cynical lens and call it bribery.

Let's. In retrospect, it is hilarious that the kike midget did all that and worse but is somehow considered by the West to have done nothing wrong.

How Zelensky’s administration moves to dismantle press freedom in Ukraine
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'Locals shooting at locals': Kyiv hunts Russian 'saboteurs'

A bastion of free speech, free press and freedom of assembly if I ever seen one.

 

[Mr Processor]

Yeah, it's a pretty hot take. I hope you have enough sun cream for what will happen after that.

It's the only way President John Henry Eden will ever be elected, after all.

 

[UVB-76]

How Zelensky’s administration moves to dismantle press freedom in Ukraine

Things got especially bad during the tenure of pro-Kremlin former President Viktor Yanukovych and the 2013-2014 EuroMaidan Revolution that ousted him.

A May 2014 report from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) found approximately 300 perceived violent attacks on the media in Ukraine since November 2013 and IMI said that there were almost 1,000 violations in free speech in 2014. During that year, 78 journalists had been abducted. Police stormed press rooms and used cyberattacks.

I love how that link only further proves my point.

In February, the National Security and Defense Council at Zelensky’s initiative yanked three pro-Kremlin TV channels off the air: NewsOne, Channel 112 and ZIK, which belonged to pro-Kremlin lawmaker Taras Kozak, widely believed to be a proxy for opposition party leader and Russian President Vladimir Putin’s ally, Viktor Medvedchuk.

The sanctions were applied according to a 2014 law that allows Ukrainian citizens to be sanctioned if they threaten Ukraine’s national interests.

The channels aired Kremlin propaganda even as Russia and its proxies occupied the Donbas and Crimea, having killed close to 14,000 people since 2014. Many Ukrainians were in favor of the channels’ summary shutdown, believing that their content caused explicit harm and getting rid of them in the standard way, through Ukraine’s corrupt courts, would be too long and difficult a process.

Nice.

Only days later, the State Investigation Bureau announced that it opened a criminal probe into a video on Butusov’s social media. In it, the camo-clad Butusov fires a 152 millimeter artillery piece, in the company of Ukrainian troops, saying “fire on the occupiers.” The bureau was to review whether Butusov was “planning, preparing, launching and waging war.”

I'm sorry? Zelensky's government investigated an editor in chief for firing an artillery piece and advocating for violence against the separatists on social media?????
Ohhhhhhh wwwwoooooooooowwwww

Zelensky announces ban on 11 Ukrainian political parties with ties to Russia

Based.

 

[Wy4M]

I forgot which cunt it was, iirc she was part of the Bill Clinton administration.

Believed it was worth it for Iraqi kids to starve to death, in order to own Saddam Hussein lol.

fyi - Madeleine Albright - The deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children was worth it for Iraq's non existent WMD's

Madeleine Albright passed away about 2 months ago on the 23th of March.

 

[Borscht]

Based.
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It doesn't work when 50% of your country are "traitors", and the entire shitshow is a testament to exactly that.

yeah, acts of piracy against neutral vessels on international waters would indeed be like 3 levels of magnitude more serious than the usual glowie shenanigans

Too many people died in Iraq because of that manufactured evidence.

 

[Vince McMahon]

>checks thread
>still the same shit
>leaves

 

[MrJokerRager]

https://odishatv.in/news/international/volodymyr-zelensky-accuses-moscow-of-attempting-to-kill-as-many-ukrainians-as-possible--177314

Spoiler: article

Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky said Russian forces have 'completely destroyed' Ukraine's eastern Donbas region and accused Moscow of trying to 'increase pressure' with 'brutal' and 'senseless' bombardments, the media reported.

The Ukrainian leader said the Kremlin had intensified its offensive following the withdrawal of its troops from Kharkiv, east of Kiev -- putting even more pressure on Donbas, the Daily Mail reported.

Zelensky also repeated that Russia was carrying out genocide and said those who 'give and carry out criminal orders' would be brought to justice 'within the international tribunal'.


Speaking in a video posted to his social media account, Zelensky said: "In Donbas, the occupiers are trying to increase pressure. There's hell and that's not an exaggeration.

"Donbas is completely destroyed. All this doesn't and cannot have any military explanation for Russia," Zelensky said, Daily Mail reported.

He added: "This is a deliberate and criminal attempt to kill as many Ukrainians as possible, and destroy as many houses, social facilities and enterprises as possible.

"This is what will be qualified as the genocide of the Ukrainian people and for which occupiers will definitely be brought to justice," Ukraine President said.

"The first trial in Ukraine against a Russian war criminal has already begun and it will end with the full restoration of justice within the international tribunal. I'm sure of it. We will find and bring to justice all those who give and carry out criminal orders."

Zelensky went on to talk about the 'constant' strikes across the country - referencing the 'terrible' air and missile strikes in Desna, Chernihiv Oblast.

That kike sitting in Kiev reduced the definition of a war criminal from some cunt like Dubya to some 21 year old gopnik who shot some old fart on some reasonable fear that the old fart would give their position away to the hohols.

Usually the perception or connotation of a war criminal is some mastermind or participant who organizes at minimum or take part in some mass rape event or genocide for terror or personal sadistic satisfaction or chaos.

That subhuman in Buffalo was more of a "war criminal" that that showtrial being organized by Z-man.

I don't bother to mention the Donbass shellings or Azov since the hohols don't really care as much at this point and its going to be a tit for tat exchange.

However prosecuting for murder in a war zone is quite top kek and reminds me of Apocalypse Now lol.

 

[White_N]

>checks thread
>still the same shit
>leaves

Constancy is a sign of mastery.

 

[UVB-76]

It doesn't work when 50% of your country are "traitors", and the entire shitshow is a testament to exactly that.

OPZZh got 13% of the votes, Opposition Bloc got 3%, and the rest are literal whos. 16% at best.
Also, some of the Opposition Platform - For Life politicians simply reformed under a new party. Big whoop.

 

[LikeRivenIRL]

>checks thread
>still the same shit
>leaves

No need to announce it sheesh

 

[Captain Autism69]

>checks thread
>still the same shit
>leaves

Heh, you're an expert at leaving, no?

 

[kuuu]

>checks thread
>still the same shit
>leaves

Insightful.

 

[Su-27 Flanker-B]

EVERYONE I DON'T AGREE WITH IS LITERALLY GLOBOHOMO

Not necessarily, however for your glow you probably require an entire nuclear reactor to power it.

Yes, more hilarious than that.

Iraq did have weapons of mass destruction. They were stored as easily mixed precursors so the definition of a chemical weapon could be avoided on a technicality.

My company stores fertilizer, therefore I am employed by a terrorist organisation.

 

[UVB-76]

I dont think AN is dangerous until mixed with the correct ratio of diesel. Even then, it requires a detonator about as energetic as TNT to initiate the explosion. As long as they don't start dousing it with gas and shooting at it with mortars, it should be fine.

Straight AN can explode by itself. Spread out on the ground minimizes the risk.
I still wouldn't want to fight near it because said mortars could land on the prills.

 

[Givi]

Well the Siege of Mariupol is over.

And in the end, the Azov Battalion's claimed total death toll is of 6,000~ dead Russians, this was a city that was defended by 7,000 to 14,000 Ukrainians and attacked by around 14,000 enemy personnel. It was home ground for all these units - a city well known to them. They were well armed, had several well fortified points they were able to use as HQs and regroup at because of their nature (Ilyich, the port, Azovstal) and certainly had a lot of tanks and for a while, an actual air force. They were able to ambush Russian and separatist personnel at will in the start of the war due to Russian incompetence and their belief that all these units would immediately fold. They were only even completely blocked and unable to be supplied (other than the occasional helicopter run) after Volnovakha fell to the DPR. They lasted an OK amount of time, but half of that was spent being blocked in Azovstal, unable to really do anything and being held by nothing but a force of 2 BTGs. The units defending Mariupol were battle hardened (Azov) or well trained (36th Marines), but they had their own share of "normal" troops and even some TDF personnel.

6,000 claimed kills, a number likely inflated, is fairly bad in my opinion. They had ALL the advantages.

Let's look at Grozny for example. Many of those defending Grozny were ill-equipped, certainly not as well equipped as the Ukrainians, and got bombed even worse. Many were ex-Russian military, and there were some Ukrainian volunteers with them, but they were mostly militia and irregulars under the command of different warlords, and so, weren't incredibly well organized like a "proper" fighting force should be. There was a severe lack of armor on the Chechen side, and probably not nearly as many RPGs as they would have liked, as well as obviously no air force. They didn't have any magic fortress like Azovstal to hide under, and had to make use of sewer systems to ambush individual Russian units. They were organized into fire teams and given autonomy to roam around and ambush people as they wished, which in many militaries would have simply resulted in desertion at the first opportunity. One can claim Russian incompetence was a big factor in how well they did, but one could honestly claim the same was true in Mariupol anyway.

And the final death toll, even with Russia's obviously fake numbers (way more Russian soldiers probably died there), was 2,000+ dead to around 5,000 Chechens, in a battle that started as 38 thousand Russians (not all entered the city to be fair) against 5,000 Chechens. Now, as funny as it would be to chalk it up to Chechens being religious ideologues who simply didn't mind dying because Allah Akbar and were therefore more effective, I'm instead going to attribute their great performance to, also funnily enough, literal warlords being more competent commanders than our friends Baranyuk, Volyna and Kalina.

For now, everyone will attempt to pretend like this battle was akshually a fail for Russia because the two BTGs they've had there for a month were totally going to win them the war if only they had gotten to the front, but I truly believe in 10 years this may actually be looked at as either a shining example of how to take a city, or a shining example of how not to defend a city (especially stuffing yourself into a factory you can't leave with 2,500 mouths to feed, lol).

 

[Aidan]

Not exactly brain drain, it's just nobody with a brain goes working there, unless those happy few that find it a calling. Shit pay, questionable work safety and travel restrictions because of secrecy.

Why spend your time welding tanks for $1k if you can weld oil pipes for $3k?

Lots of educated Russians dip out for better economic prospects. The best and brightest by and large don't stay in Russia; I've assumed this is an honest strategy to cripple Russia and it's not a bad one if so. They're not like bugpeople who will steal IP and send research back home on demand.

>checks thread
>still the same shit
>leaves

me with the "news" thread

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Not necessarily, however for your glow you probably require an entire nuclear reactor to power it.

My company stores fertilizer, therefore I am employed by a terrorist organisation.

if you are storing that fertilizer with the intention of turning it into a bomb then yes you are part of a terrorist organization.

likewise, Saddam Hussein was storing chemical precursors underneath school buildings with the intention of turning them into sarin gas.