Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[DrJonesHat]

What I raise issue with is that in all his amended complaints he consistently refers to him skipping the audition as "judge ordering him to perform". In his injunctions he specifically keeps asking not to be ordered to perform, but to audition.

Maybe I'm just reading way too deeply into his bad writting

It's his shitty writing. I looked it up, and the initial audition is the cattle call. Anyone can audition for that, you don't need permission. As @StinkySnack said, he hasn't been banned from trying again next year (yet). He wouldn't need to sue for that. What's confusing is there are in fact two auditions. The first is watched by a producer. That's the one where Russ thought he was on the show because the producer said "good job." The second audition is the first round of AGT. There are a limited number of slots in initial round of AGT where contestants audition in front of the celebrity judges. Those are prerecorded and aired for the first few weeks. Then the judges winnow down the initial pool of contestants to those who will appear on the live rounds. Russ is asking they either create an extra spot just for him for the first round, or bump someone who qualified on their own merits and put him in their place. Either way would be massively unfair to the other contestants, but I doubt Russ even considered that and if he did, he doesn't care. Russ can't write clearly to save his life, so it's understandable there's some confusion over what he's actually asking(demanding).

Now, it's quite possible that Marathon, or even NBC itself bans him from further auditions for any of their productions. Then he might file ANOTHER suit demanding to be allowed to try again.

 

[Supreme Dingus]

$800k in damages?
Oh Russ, you demented little goblin...

 

[Useful_Mistake]

As @StinkySnack said, he hasn't been banned from trying again next year (yet). He wouldn't need to sue for that.

Yeah, but he's Russ.

It's his shitty writing.

Probably. In that case sorry for my autistic screeching in this thread.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Probably. In that case sorry for my autistic screeching in this thread.

It's fine. Legalese is confusing on the best of days, but Russ seems to go out of his way to obfuscate his meaning ("seems to" being the key phrase. I know it's just because he's an idiot.) You have the patience of a saint to not only make sense out of Russ's ramblings, but to explain it to we who are even more confused than you.

 

[AnOminous]

Doesn't the Church also direct the ladies to dress modestly? A bikini doesn't seem very modest, and she's obviously not wearing the Garments. Do you have to formally resign from the Church, or can you just stop showing up for services and eventually whoever keeps track of such things takes your name off the list?

No, there are tons of so-called "Jack Mormons" who don't really adhere to the religion any more or participate, but this doesn't get you struck off the record. Doing something seen as actually disgraceful, like promoting homosexuality, or routinely being publicly drunk, might get you disfellowshipped.

That isn't the same as excommunication because in that event you can still attend church social events (other than the Temple). They're also allowed to wear the magic underoos if they so desire and pay tithes. Generally in all but the most serious cases, like actual blasphemy or heresy, there's something you can do to get good with LDS again, and it's usually as simple as knocking off whatever you were doing and asking.

Excommunication does exist, but you have to do something that really pisses off Azathoth the octogenarians and nonagenarians who run LDS, like suggest they should quit leaving their questionable clergy in the company of kids because shit has happened.

 

[DrJonesHat]

It's fine. Legalese is confusing on the best of days, but Russ seems to go out of his way to obfuscate his meaning ("seems to" being the key phrase. I know it's just because he's an idiot.) You have the patience of a saint to not only make sense out of Russ's ramblings, but to explain it to we who are even more confused than you.

It took several read throughs to figure out he was demanding to be put on the show despite failing the initial round (like tens of thousands of other people). He does finally state plainly he thinks the ADA entitles him to special treatment when he complains that Marathon treated him like every other contestant (which is what the ADA actually requires) instead of realizing he's super special and giving him the celebrity treatment right off the bat.

 

[SamTheEagle]

Doesn't the Church also direct the ladies to dress modestly? A bikini doesn't seem very modest, and she's obviously not wearing the Garments. Do you have to formally resign from the Church, or can you just stop showing up for services and eventually whoever keeps track of such things takes your name off the list?

Are Mormon ladies allowed to wear swimsuits at all?
I wondered what they did with the undergarments as well.

Modesty's encouraged, and some leaders (and a pamphlet written for teens) have specifically said that bikinis are inappropriate. I notice less talk about clothing these days (but then, I'm a guy and we've always gotten less talk about how we dress), and I've seen more backlash regarding the focus on clothing when talking about modesty (as opposed to, say, modesty in attitude). You'll also find plenty of bikinis on Mutual, an LDS-focused dating app.
And yeah, Church members can wear swimsuits, regardless of gender. Most members I know take off the temple garments when they're impractical, i.e., for sports, showers, sex, etc.

You can stop showing up to services, but that won't get your name removed. In all honesty, you're more likely to show up on some leader's list of people who need a visit to see what's up.

 

[DrJonesHat]

Modesty's encouraged, and some leaders (and a pamphlet written for teens) have specifically said that bikinis are inappropriate. I notice less talk about clothing these days (but then, I'm a guy and we've always gotten less talk about how we dress), and I've seen more backlash regarding the focus on clothing when talking about modesty (as opposed to, say, modesty in attitude). You'll also find plenty of bikinis on Mutual, an LDS-focused dating app.
And yeah, Church members can wear swimsuits, regardless of gender. Most members I know take off the temple garments when they're impractical, i.e., for sports, showers, sex, etc.

You can stop showing up to services, but that won't get your name removed. In all honesty, you're more likely to show up on some leader's list of people who need a visit to see what's up.

Yeah, there's been a backlash against the idea that women must dress modestly lest they tempt men into sin. Pastor at my parent's church told the congregation that's your own damn job to control yourself, not anyone else's, particularly not women.

 

[ConSluttant]

Yeah, but he's Russ.

Probably. In that case sorry for my autistic screeching in this thread.

The problem is that if we take Russ at his precise word, he's asking for two very separate and distinct things - neither of which is what he claims to want which is the audition with the celebrity judge. If you can't be bothered to spell it out in your prayer for relief then you are done for. He wants what he hasn't asked for at all. He talks about it, yes but he doesn't ask for it.

And how on earth did he think that his preliminary injunction would actually be granted when the injunction would give him what he seeks? Like was said before the injunction is to keep the status quo. The current status quo is that Russ isn't appearing before the judges.

 

[Stinkyboy]

He sure is self-deluding that any of these models/cheerleaders/strippers/hookers run their own social media.
It’s always a man on the other end.

 

[Pickle Built]

He sure is self-deluding that any of these models/cheerleaders/strippers/hookers run their own social media.
It’s always a man on the other end.

How mad do you think russ would be if someone convinced him that the media manager guy managed to woo x celebrity with the song russ wrote for them?

 

[pr3nt177]

It’s always a man on the other end.

Eh, how do you work that one out?

 

[Stinkyboy]

Eh, how do you work that one out?

You’ve never heard of entertainers using PR firms who are pros at interacting with fans instead of their client?

Okay

 

[pr3nt177]

You’ve never heard of entertainers using PR firms who are pros at interacting with fans instead of their client?

Okay

"it's always a man".

You do know women have the vote now?

 

[moorhen]

You’ve never heard of entertainers using PR firms who are pros at interacting with fans instead of their client?

Okay

You really think the average “influencer” or hooker is paying someone to post on Instagram for them? 90% of their “job” is just social media, they think theyre doing a hard days work by posting two pictures and a 30 second video talking about whatever scam theyre currently shilling.

Rusty targets those people because they aren’t celebrities, they don’t have social media managers who post for them so they can concentrate on their careers.


Also, from what ive seen, a lot of social media managers are women.

 

[Drowningman]

And his comment about the lds is gone from the ladies photo but he is still following her.

 

[DrJonesHat]

The problem is that if we take Russ at his precise word, he's asking for two very separate and distinct things - neither of which is what he claims to want which is the audition with the celebrity judge. If you can't be bothered to spell it out in your prayer for relief then you are done for. He wants what he hasn't asked for at all. He talks about it, yes but he doesn't ask for it.

And how on earth did he think that his preliminary injunction would actually be granted when the injunction would give him what he seeks? Like was said before the injunction is to keep the status quo. The current status quo is that Russ isn't appearing before the judges.

Yes, I'm not a studly legal expert like Russ, but injunctions STOP you from doing something. I can't bulldoze the house, I can't sell the property, etc until the matter in dispute is resolved. I'm half surprised that Russ didn't file a motion for an injunction to stop AGT from filming at all until the suit is resolved. He filed a for an injunction to stop Taylor Swift's tour when he was suing her, so demanding a major TV show grind to a halt until his hurt fee-fees are fixed would be in character for him.

And his comment about the lds is gone from the ladies photo but he is still following her.

Yeah, maybe he reads here or maybe she responded to his super cool DM and told him she was a Scientologist now and would he like a free personality test? Oh, by Xenu, Russ joining the CoS would be our reward for the last two years!

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

The problem is that if we take Russ at his precise word, he's asking for two very separate and distinct things - neither of which is what he claims to want which is the audition with the celebrity judge. If you can't be bothered to spell it out in your prayer for relief then you are done for. He wants what he hasn't asked for at all. He talks about it, yes but he doesn't ask for it.

And how on earth did he think that his preliminary injunction would actually be granted when the injunction would give him what he seeks? Like was said before the injunction is to keep the status quo. The current status quo is that Russ isn't appearing before the judges.

He asks for them because he knows enough not to ask for what he really wants: Heidi Klum as his trophy wife.

 

[DrJonesHat]

He asks for them because he knows enough not to ask for what he really wants: Heidi Klum as his trophy wife.

He doesn't think he needs to ask. He thinks if he just can perform in front of her, she'll be all over him. That's why he thought he was compromising when he said if Marathon just let him perform in front of Klum, he'd drop the suit. He thought he had the upper hand, and that Marathon would eager to keep his lawsuit out of the news, so they'd give into his demand. I have a feeling, just a feeling that after the judge grants the motion to compel, Russ is going to start trying to contact Klum directly to explain how unfair Marathon was to a disabled songwriter and she should make them let him be on the show. I bet he also tries to get his song to her, which even if he had a chance of being on the show would disqualify him. There's a rule against contacting the judges or their staff. He already to tried to get in touch with her through her agent, so I wouldn't be surprised if he tries again.

 

[Plight of the Bumblebee]

The funniest thing, really, is how Russ has been so caught up with Marathon's smackdown of a legal document, his struggling against going to arbitration, and the extremely tight deadline he has set for himself. He hasn't attempted to prove once that he's been discriminated against or that his act should have passed the audition.