Crime Gunman at a Texas elementary school kills 19 students and two adults before being fatally shot, officials say - yeehaw

(CNN)A suspect is in custody after a shooting incident at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, left at least two dead and injured 14 people, including students, authorities said.

The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District (UCISD) posted about an "active shooter" at Robb Elementary at 12:17 p.m. local time and said law enforcement was on site.

The suspect was taken into custody as of 1:06 p.m. local time, according to the Uvalde Police Department.
Two have died after the shooting at Robb Elementary School, a spokesperson from Uvalde Memorial Hospital told CNN.

The hospital received 13 children at their facility who were being treated for varying injuries, he said. Two children were transported to San Antonio and another is pending transfer, Tom Nordwick said.

Additionally, two patients were dead on arrival, he said. Nordwick was not sure of the ages of the two deceased. A man in his 40s was also being treated there, he said.

Nordwick did not have conditions on any of the victims.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/24/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting/index.html

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

Im not claiming the high ground my son. I am claiming the middle path in the storm

First of all I'm no ones son. Second of all I think you're getting to worked up over me being apathetic.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

First of all I'm no ones son. Second of all I think you're getting to worked up over me being apathetic.

You aren't apathetic.

I am trying to lead you to apathy.

And the Johnny Depp av image is infecting my choice of words

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

You aren't apathetic.

I am trying to lead you to apathy.

And the Johnny Depp av image is infecting my choice of words

So. Johnny Depp can influence our words? Like a brain worm?

 

[coomer mcgee]

The myth that prohibition doesn't work strikes again.

oh yeah, because prohibition has always worked perfectly here in the good ol' USA. No one here does any drugs, its crazy, just because they are prohibited by law.

 

[Sailor Kim Jong Moon]

Considering there's a lot of back and forth on this topic, and the last shooting; I do have one question. What do you guys think is a reasonable approach from a legislation standpoint, to stop this kind of shit?

It's pretty clear at this point that schools and shopping centers are being targeted due to low (if any at all) security/threat level. I know the left will freak out at mention of this, but I honestly don't see how anyone can argue about teachers being trained with sidearm and being able to conceal/carry. It could be on a volunteer basis, and to be blunt; all its going to take is one would be shooter getting popped in the fucking head by the gym teacher for them (the left) to shut the fuck up about it. Nobody would be forced to carry, it could be an entirely volunteer program. For those that volunteer, training could be issued by the schools police liason or a state run program by the state troopers. At this point, something has to be done.

Unless you're leaning towards this being a glowop, I can't argue with you. I'm not saying you're right or wrong; just that you can't argue solutions to a conspiracy barring no damning evidence is presented. It's just conjecture at this point in time.

i can’t think of any policy that isn’t egregious that could stop it

Monitoring? Gun bans? Security & barbed wire?

How about people learn a bit about their neighbors & if the kid is clearly a hell spawn, report him to the authorities so he is red flagged & can’t get weapons? Idk

Not all tragedies are best prevented by policy. Sometimes it takes community & culture.

Could change my mind tho

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

So. Johnny Depp can influence our words? Like a brain worm?

I mean when he says things like that it feels fun. You say them it feels fun

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

So. Johnny Depp can influence our words? Like a brain worm?

Only if you're a soulless husk susceptible to OTA updates to your operating parameters

 

[SNAFU]

It's pretty sickening seeing all the people on twitter using dead kids to further their agenda

 

[ModernaisaQuango]

The myth that prohibition doesn't work strikes again.

I hope this is sarcasm. Speakeasy’s..?

 

[JambledUpWords]

The same government spewing altruistic rhetoric about gun control for ‘your safety’— arms and funds terrorists and cartels ffs.

Also, if you don’t already trust or like the government, agreeing to give them more power under the guise of “safety” is dumb. Gun control only serves to make the government more powerful.

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

I mean when he says things like that it feels fun. You say them it feels fun

Oh. Makes sense.

Only if you're a soulless husk susceptible to OTA updates to your operating parameters

Good.

 

[DaBigBopper]

the debates from these shootings are just tiresome at this point. it's always gun control this and not enough background checks are done (never mind 18.5 million checks were conducted towards sales last year). like fuck you if you want to talk about why in recent decades more and more people are shooting up people in everyday places like schools and what's causing them to get so mentally fucked in their heads to this point. this country truly is hell and its people show it.

Because it's something very easy to troll about. Half of the Euro's in here don't give a shit about rights, hell a quarter are here to stir shit up about how A&H should be deleted because Boomers congregate here. Mocking deeply held beliefs is one of the best ways to troll.

You will always have crazy anti-social wackjobs who go nuts and abuse a right or privilege. To deprive everyone of these rights because some crazy idiot can't just kill himself is stupid. Issues lie in the fact that we've built a rat utopia and some people cannot function in it or see the walls. Was Uncle Ted so right or is it the collapse happening in real time?

 

[Wormy]

Considering there's a lot of back and forth on this topic, and the last shooting; I do have one question. What do you guys think is a reasonable approach from a legislation standpoint, to stop this kind of shit?

It's pretty clear at this point that schools and shopping centers are being targeted due to low (if any at all) security/threat level. I know the left will freak out at mention of this, but I honestly don't see how anyone can argue about teachers being trained with sidearm and being able to conceal/carry. It could be on a volunteer basis, and to be blunt; all its going to take is one would be shooter getting popped in the fucking head by the gym teacher for them (the left) to shut the fuck up about it. Nobody would be forced to carry, it could be an entirely volunteer program. For those that volunteer, training could be issued by the schools police liason or a state run program by the state troopers. At this point, something has to be done.

Unless you're leaning towards this being a glowop, I can't argue with you. I'm not saying you're right or wrong; just that you can't argue solutions to a conspiracy barring no damning evidence is presented. It's just conjecture at this point in time.

So how do you handle it the first time a teacher opens fire on a class out of frustration or in response to taunting?

 

[Xarpho]

Getting in a spat with border patrol agents suggests that he wasn't really supposed to be in the country.

Right but feeling bad about something that happens to
A ) people you (most likely) don't know
B ) People you (most likely) will never know
C ) people you likely don't know anyone who knows

That's the opposite of leading an uneventful life.

Thats drama seeking.

Kids died that's sad. If you feel bad about that and some kids need GFM money for health care donate to that.

Thats the absolute apex of what you should feel about that

That is true. I genuinely felt worst when I found out the nice lady that lived downstairs with her labradoodle suffered some sort of medical emergency and now is on a ventilator and can't move her limbs, and there were a few people that were killed in big, documented shootings (or other disasters) that I knew friends of. One of my friend from grade school's dads was killed in a small localized mass shooting.

I live in Texas. I don't any of these kids, or their teachers, or their parents, or anyone that knows them. Before today, I couldn't point to Uvalde on a map.

It will get politicized and blamed on anything but the fact that Sal was a piece of shit who killed abuela and had no empathy for other people.

 

[BillTheButcher]

"The founders believed that the government exists to perform only those services that the people cannot provide for themselves, such as the national defense. Local and state government powers were also to be limited and enumerated with the people self-governing in all other areas."

I highly disagree that people need legislation to address a lone shooter event. That would be allowing the minority to cast the vote for the majority.

Well what I meant by "legislation" is in the sense it would make it legal for non-police/servicemen to be allowed to carry on property such as a public school, and to receive the training to be certified to do so. As far as I know, the only person that is legally allowed to carry on school premises are the police.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Oh. Makes sense.

Yeah. But don't let the media convince you that you need to feel anything about school shootings.

Feeding those psychic vampires is why we have so many of the damned things

Getting in a spat with border patrol agents suggests that he wasn't really supposed to be in the country.

That is true. I genuinely felt worst when I found out the nice lady that lived downstairs with her labradoodle suffered some sort of medical emergency and now is on a ventilator and can't move her limbs, and there were a few people that were killed in big, documented shootings (or other disasters) that I knew friends of. One of my friend from grade school's dads was killed in a small localized mass shooting.

I live in Texas. I don't any of these kids, or their teachers, or their parents, or anyone that knows them. Before today, I couldn't point to Uvalde on a map.

It will get politicized and blamed on anything but the fact that Sal was a piece of shit who killed abuela and had no empathy for other people.

And Sal likely had a history of mental illness. He probably abused his Abuela to. He is probably already well known to cops.

As usual cops can't catch these guys. But they can sure do a great job policing BS crimes.

 

[Grimoire Canthari]

Good, Buffalo can finally be known worldwide for chicken wings and Bills Mafia shenanigans again.

 

[Scale Smerch]

Considering there's a lot of back and forth on this topic, and the last shooting; I do have one question. What do you guys think is a reasonable approach from a legislation standpoint, to stop this kind of shit?

Harsh truth is there is no legislative fix. Allowing teachers to concealed carry (which I personally agree with) is as much a bandaid fix as the leftist dogma of gun control: it does not tackle the root cause nor will stop these tragedies from happening.

As brought up repeatedly ITT the only way of dealing with this is to find, identify, and help (or incarcerate) kids like this shooter before they have a chance to go batshit, and that would take a level of mental health investment and personal diligence that will realistically never happen. We're living the consequences of a diverse and globally connected society.

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

Yeah. But don't let the media convince you that you need to feel anything about school shootings.

Feeding those psychic vampires is why we have so many of the damned things

I personally think people just suck and are violent for no reason sometimes, media be dammed. It just feels unfortunate, but unavoidable that there are fucks like that out there.

 

[BillTheButcher]

So how do you handle it the first time a teacher opens fire on a class out of frustration or in response to taunting?

Are you implying the only thing stopping some teacher out there from shooting up their students, for taunting, is the fact their gun is back home, locked up? I get the concern, but I think it takes a different type of person to rationalize killing someone, even more so when it's kids.