Crime Gunman at a Texas elementary school kills 19 students and two adults before being fatally shot, officials say - yeehaw

(CNN)A suspect is in custody after a shooting incident at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, left at least two dead and injured 14 people, including students, authorities said.

The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District (UCISD) posted about an "active shooter" at Robb Elementary at 12:17 p.m. local time and said law enforcement was on site.

The suspect was taken into custody as of 1:06 p.m. local time, according to the Uvalde Police Department.
Two have died after the shooting at Robb Elementary School, a spokesperson from Uvalde Memorial Hospital told CNN.

The hospital received 13 children at their facility who were being treated for varying injuries, he said. Two children were transported to San Antonio and another is pending transfer, Tom Nordwick said.

Additionally, two patients were dead on arrival, he said. Nordwick was not sure of the ages of the two deceased. A man in his 40s was also being treated there, he said.

Nordwick did not have conditions on any of the victims.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/24/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting/index.html

 

[edgymovies]

Considering there's a lot of back and forth on this topic, and the last shooting; I do have one question. What do you guys think is a reasonable approach from a legislation standpoint, to stop this kind of shit?

It's pretty clear at this point that schools and shopping centers are being targeted due to low (if any at all) security/threat level. I know the left will freak out at mention of this, but I honestly don't see how anyone can argue about teachers being trained with sidearm and being able to conceal/carry. It could be on a volunteer basis, and to be blunt; all its going to take is one would be shooter getting popped in the fucking head by the gym teacher for them (the left) to shut the fuck up about it. Nobody would be forced to carry, it could be an entirely volunteer program. For those that volunteer, training could be issued by the schools police liason or a state run program by the state troopers. At this point, something has to be done.

Unless you're leaning towards this being a glowop, I can't argue with you. I'm not saying you're right or wrong; just that you can't argue solutions to a conspiracy barring no damning evidence is presented. It's just conjecture at this point in time.

I don't actually think school shootings are common enough for us to really even consider this seriously.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

those damn stupid feminists. nothing at all scandalous about a woman being murdered

I suppose you don't have the concept of "feminicide" as we have it here. Hispanic (including of course Spain) countries have created that word to make the murder of women different from common murders. So, whenever a woman is murdered, you have all media panicking and talking constantly about feminicides this and feminicides that, in the same scandalous way USA media does about shooting. And then, of course, more start to happen. Like shootings.

 

[rando0675309]

Considering there's a lot of back and forth on this topic, and the last shooting; I do have one question. What do you guys think is a reasonable approach from a legislation standpoint, to stop this kind of shit?

It's pretty clear at this point that schools and shopping centers are being targeted due to low (if any at all) security/threat level. I know the left will freak out at mention of this, but I honestly don't see how anyone can argue about teachers being trained with sidearm and being able to conceal/carry. It could be on a volunteer basis, and to be blunt; all its going to take is one would be shooter getting popped in the fucking head by the gym teacher for them (the left) to shut the fuck up about it. Nobody would be forced to carry, it could be an entirely volunteer program. For those that volunteer, training could be issued by the schools police liason or a state run program by the state troopers. At this point, something has to be done.

Unless you're leaning towards this being a glowop, I can't argue with you. I'm not saying you're right or wrong; just that you can't argue solutions to a conspiracy barring no damning evidence is presented. It's just conjecture at this point in time.

For me, actually following through with implementing the changes to NICS, the instant background check database after the Virginia Tech shooting. A large number of the major mass shootings since VTech (most recent example being the sperg in Buffalo) involved people who were technically ineligible to purchase a firearm because they were adjudicated by the courts to some form of psychiatric treatment. However, due to lack of funding and poor record keeping, NICS was never updated and they were able to purchase a gun, which was later used in a mass shooting.

The law that was passed after VTech had major bipartisan support, including by the NRA and Brady Foundation, and was signed into law by Bush in 2008 with much fanfare. However, when Obama took office, the GOP did a 180 and it became "the worst thing ever," basically killing it's funding and implementation. I'm no fan of Obama, but what happened was total bullshit and IMO cost lives and caused a lot of avoidable heartache and stress all for scoring some truly dubious political points.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I personally think people just suck and are violent for no reason sometimes, media be dammed. It just feels unfortunate, but unavoidable that there are fucks like that out there.

Media attention is the fuel for these things

Kleibold and Harris actually talked about it. And talked about how most school shooters were pathetic goblins.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Considering there's a lot of back and forth on this topic, and the last shooting; I do have one question. What do you guys think is a reasonable approach from a legislation standpoint, to stop this kind of shit?

It's pretty clear at this point that schools and shopping centers are being targeted due to low (if any at all) security/threat level. I know the left will freak out at mention of this, but I honestly don't see how anyone can argue about teachers being trained with sidearm and being able to conceal/carry. It could be on a volunteer basis, and to be blunt; all its going to take is one would be shooter getting popped in the fucking head by the gym teacher for them (the left) to shut the fuck up about it. Nobody would be forced to carry, it could be an entirely volunteer program. For those that volunteer, training could be issued by the schools police liason or a state run program by the state troopers. At this point, something has to be done.

Unless you're leaning towards this being a glowop, I can't argue with you. I'm not saying you're right or wrong; just that you can't argue solutions to a conspiracy barring no damning evidence is presented. It's just conjecture at this point in time.

I think your idea is pretty good on paper, but good luck getting the PTA on board with teachers having guns in the classroom (especially with younger kids). Also, public opinion of teachers is at an all-time low with all the recent CRT and sexual abuse stories that are going around. So I don't think people are going to feel safe with teachers packing heat.

If we are talking policy then I think stronger incentives for nuclear family units would be a huge step in the right direction.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

The schools I went to had two story high concrete walls with barbed wire and closed metal doors, everything was inside that perimeter: games, race tracks, auditorium, everything. I know Americans don't want to feel third world countrish but maybe its time.

I'm sorry to tell you this, but that was juvie.

 

[Wormy]

Are you implying the only thing stopping some teacher out there from shooting up their students, for taunting, is the fact their gun is back home, locked up? I get the concern, but I think it takes a different type of person to rationalize killing someone, even more so when it's kids.

Thing is, I actually kind of like your idea. Really, I do.

But it's not going to happen, ever, and I understand why. No principal or school board wants that nightmare scenario to happen, and even if they did, ONE incident is all it would take for this policy to be buried deeper than Jimmy Hoffa.

 

[Narcotics]

Considering there's a lot of back and forth on this topic, and the last shooting; I do have one question. What do you guys think is a reasonable approach from a legislation standpoint, to stop this kind of shit?

It's pretty clear at this point that schools and shopping centers are being targeted due to low (if any at all) security/threat level. I know the left will freak out at mention of this, but I honestly don't see how anyone can argue about teachers being trained with sidearm and being able to conceal/carry. It could be on a volunteer basis, and to be blunt; all its going to take is one would be shooter getting popped in the fucking head by the gym teacher for them (the left) to shut the fuck up about it. Nobody would be forced to carry, it could be an entirely volunteer program. For those that volunteer, training could be issued by the schools police liason or a state run program by the state troopers. At this point, something has to be done.

Unless you're leaning towards this being a glowop, I can't argue with you. I'm not saying you're right or wrong; just that you can't argue solutions to a conspiracy barring no damning evidence is presented. It's just conjecture at this point in time.

I personally don't know what could be done to decrease the likelyhood of these events (because let's be real, as long as a schizo can hold a gun there will always be this kind of tragedies happening). I'm a fat retarded fag who uses KF so my take is as good as the next guy.

But i'm personally curious to ask, don't schools have some kind of priority when it comes to security over at the US? I'm talking armed guys whose only purpose there is to act as a deterrant or to shoot at the loonies who actively do these things? You would believe that parents would demand more boots around the place their kids spend atleast 1/3rd of their day per week for years. I guess the problem here would lie with some public schools having so little funding not allowing them to pay for that kind of security.

 

[A Logging Company]

I have a bit of an odd question: is this getting significant coverage in Mexico?

 

[Fizzle]

I want to find the page this thread stopped being about the Texas shooting. Is there just a general happenings thread or is this it?

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

Media attention is the fuel for these things

Kleibold and Harris actually talked about it. And talked about how most school shooters were pathetic goblins.

Don't drag goblins like that. They don't gun people down, only eat dirt.
I rarely actually look at the news so I wouldn't really know.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I don't actually think school shootings are common enough for us to really even consider this seriously.

They aren't:

But they are common enough to create a moral panic where parents will allow schools to mentally abuse their children with active shooter drills.....which have 0 efficacy in saving lives (but hey they pay connected people 6 figure salaries)

Don't drag goblins like that. They don't gun people down, only eat dirt.
I rarely actually look at the news so I wouldn't really know.

The evil gumbo from the news is now the toxic venom on Twitter. Because the news orgs need Twitter

 

[LaxerBRO]

It's pretty clear at this point that schools and shopping centers are being targeted due to low (if any at all) security/threat level. I know the left will freak out at mention of this, but I honestly don't see how anyone can argue about teachers being trained with sidearm and being able to conceal/carry.

Honestly, I am torn on this issue.

While we are reeling from this tragedy we must ask ourselves how many rampage style school shootings their are in the United States. Instead of look in a raw number, read them and ask if it would have mattered if an armed teacher was there? Look at 2017, three to possibly four where it could have made a difference. Realistically, I believe at most one could have made a difference. When their is a mass shooting, a teacher (armed or not) is responsible for the kids in that room. They are not trained to clear a school, most cops are not trained to clear a building by themselves. As such, when the first shot is fired the SOP should be to secure the door, barricade it, for the teacher and students to get behind cover and concealment.

I am not a fan of the citizenry being reliant on law enforcement but clearing a building by yourself is a recipe for disaster. Even though I carry a gun for a living, I would never clear my own home in a robbery. The SOP is similar, secure the staircase, and wait for the police. If I cannot stop the aggressor at the stairs, I fall back to my safe room and hold that area. Even with the revamped mass shooter protocol after Columbine, the procedure is to wait for three to four officers and then enter to clear the school.

Now what am I scared off? I am sacred of a teacher being reckless with a firearm. Both CCW and law enforcement have left guns in the restroom. Women leave guns in purses. People are just sometimes careless. Am I against teachers carrying? No. I just question the need and unforeseen consequences.

 

[CarlosDanger]

So how do you handle it the first time a teacher opens fire on a class out of frustration or in response to taunting?

You could say this about everything in every profession. What happens when a pilot snaps and decides to crash the plane into the ocean? You cannot protect everyone from everything all the time.

 

[I'mma real anime gurl]

Trannies are a threat to children and the Left is full of trannies.

 

[glib]

Considering there's a lot of back and forth on this topic, and the last shooting; I do have one question. What do you guys think is a reasonable approach from a legislation standpoint, to stop this kind of shit?

It's pretty clear at this point that schools and shopping centers are being targeted due to low (if any at all) security/threat level. I know the left will freak out at mention of this, but I honestly don't see how anyone can argue about teachers being trained with sidearm and being able to conceal/carry. It could be on a volunteer basis, and to be blunt; all its going to take is one would be shooter getting popped in the fucking head by the gym teacher for them (the left) to shut the fuck up about it. Nobody would be forced to carry, it could be an entirely volunteer program. For those that volunteer, training could be issued by the schools police liason or a state run program by the state troopers. At this point, something has to be done.

Unless you're leaning towards this being a glowop, I can't argue with you. I'm not saying you're right or wrong; just that you can't argue solutions to a conspiracy barring no damning evidence is presented. It's just conjecture at this point in time.

We have legislation, it's called the 2nd amendment.

 

[DaBigBopper]

I don't actually think school shootings are common enough for us to really even consider this seriously.

It really is a mix of bad/ lax parenting and a shithead or fucked up kid. I didn't know we had a gun in my house until I was 17. My dad and mom kept it under lock and key. My weird Uncle's guns were the ones I went hunting with. His kids did not know his safe code even though his kids were far more comfortable with guns then I was.
Generally all the kids who seem to shoot up schools are not the Hillbilly type, they always seem to be people who never go hunting.

The 2nd part is just that sometimes the best parents in the world can have a shitty kid. Some families just have a black sheep who hangs out with the wrong crowd too much or is just a little wrong mentally. It's a crap shoot.

 

[Sailor Kim Jong Moon]

I personally don't know what could be done to decrease the likelyhood of these events (because let's be real, as long as a schizo can hold a gun there will always be this kind of tragedies happening). I'm a fat retarded fag who uses KF so my take is as good as the next guy.

But i'm personally curious to ask, don't schools have some kind of priority when it comes to security over at the US? I'm talking armed guys whose only purpose there is to act as a deterrant or to shoot at the loonies who actively do these things? You would believe that parents would demand more boots around the place their kids spend atleast 1/3rd of their day per week for years. I guess the problem here would lie with some public schools having so little funding not allowing them to pay for that kind of security.

The ACLU says police officers in schools is rayciss cuz the black boys get in trouble most often

So the left is actively trying to remove them from schools.

Yes, the policy makes no sense. A resource officer that knows & has relationships with the students can de-escalate better than a rando officer you call every time a fight breaks out. But hey, the ACLU is top notch retarded now anyway

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Honestly, I am torn on this issue.

While we are reeling from this tragedy we must ask ourselves how many rampage style school shootings their are in the United States. Instead of look in a raw number, read them and ask if it would have mattered if an armed teacher was there? Look at 2017, three to possibly four where it could have made a difference. Realistically, I believe at most one could have made a difference. When their is a mass shooting, a teacher (armed or not) is responsible for the kids in that room. They are not trained to clear a school, most cops are not trained to clear a building by themselves. As such, when the first shot is fired the SOP should be to secure the door, barricade it, for the teacher and students to get behind cover and concealment.

I am not a fan of the citizenry being reliant on law enforcement but clearing a building by yourself is a recipe for disaster. Even though I carry a gun for a living, I would never clear my own home in a robbery. The SOP is similar, secure the staircase, and wait for the police. If I cannot stop the aggressor at the stairs, I fall back to my safe room and hold that area. Even with the revamped mass shooter protocol after Columbine, the procedure is to wait for three to four officers and then enter to clear the school.

Now what am I scared off? I am sacred of a teacher being reckless with a firearm. Both CCW and law enforcement have left guns in the restroom. Women leave guns in purses. People are just sometimes careless. Am I against teachers carrying? No. I just question the need and unforeseen consequences.

You know Teachers get into very violent fights as folks trying to pull kids apart.

Kid jumps a teacher with a gun....tries to kill him....kid will get shot

 

[JustStopDude]

I have a bit of an odd question: is this getting significant coverage in Mexico?

Lol why? Texas is in the US and it's a mass shooting. The fucking things happen all the time.
I doubt anyone in the states give a shit about the last mass killing in the drug war.