Off-Topic It's about ethics in paypiggery and a-logging! - And animated pink rabbit png files.

[BSV]

How much do you donate to Ralph at the moment? Are you the Dixie guy who donates 100 times a show?

as a matter of fact I have donated more money to you then to Ethan Ralph ironically enough. Just stating factually what I observe about a situation doesn't mean I need to give them money for it.

 

[Niggernerd]

Pedo org obliterated flam in debate. He pointed out correctly ppl piling on Hitler Ralph mutually dick sucking bc he's the villain of the day. Pointing out ppl justifying cog commiting literal assault.

Wow beating flam. must be very proud of jumping over the lowest bar possible.

1.Cog never assaulted ralph
2.Dan put the pig down when the pig started raging towards cog.
3. "Piling on Ralph" ralph created his own enemies, everyone is his enemy. He's just getting what he asked for

 

[Smarty Pants]

Pedo org obliterated flam in debate. He pointed out correctly ppl piling on Hitler Ralph mutually dick sucking bc he's the villain of the day. Pointing out ppl justifying cog commiting literal assault.

In Bongland there's a saying: Chat shit - get banged.

 

[Bryan Dunn]

as a matter of fact I have donated more money to you then to Ethan Ralph ironically enough. Just stating factually what I observe about a situation doesn't mean I need to give them money for it.

Based dude. Thanks for the donos. I appreciated it last time actually.

 

[Easterling]

I am not very hysterical about this. But it is sort of a fun discussion seeing

1. Cog on a live stream accepting money for going "gunt hunting" Saying he will go to Portugal to beat up Ralph

Even if your not playing devils advocate I can respect the discourse so I'll play along. The trouble with this is that although im sure the intention to get physical with ralph was probably there we'll never find out what Cog intented to do, he'll probably say on the Kino Casino, any paypigs reading are welcome to ask on my behalf.

Here's some options of what could have happened if Ethan hadn't simply attacked Cog and Big Dave on sight like some kind of hostile NPC

1. Cog and Ralph have a verbal exchange on the streets of lisborn,
2. Cog contiunes to mock ralph behind his back and weakly try to get his attention
3. Cog and Big dave jump ralph in an alley/confront him in an alley

 

[AltisticRight]

You guys are insane! Cog went to another country to find ralph after soliciting donations to do so. He even brought a roided friend that Ralph didn't even know that sucker punched him.

Ralph didn't "create any plausible threat to cog's person" You can't go to another country to stalk another person with the goal of beating someone up, and claim that person is creating a dangerous situation to you! That just doesn't make any sense.

Another country's distance that's equivalent to Denver to San Fransisco on a discounted jet ticket. You guys are making it sound like the couple of spergs sailed the Atlantic to settle petty internet drama.

It's called talk shit get hit. Maybe don't fuck with someone's family over gay internet drama and goad them into a confrontation next time.

 

[Hüftpriester]

Pedo org obliterated flam in debate. He pointed out correctly ppl piling on Hitler Ralph mutually dick sucking bc he's the villain of the day. Pointing out ppl justifying cog commiting literal assault.

That assmad faggot didn't blow anyone out. Crying about a minor assault when the guy in question invites this exact kind of thing on himself is something I'd expect from a furry pedophile like @Jester69. Talk shit and get hit, it's that simple.

 

[Capt. Jean Luc Ritard]

It's not because he provoked the situation you cretin. He literary stood behind the corner discussing with his friend when to "press him" He came to ralph not the other way around. It's not very hard to understand.

Lol you should have stayed and gotten that CAT scan nigga you’re tripping. There’s video of one fat retard walking directly at and into the personal space of the other.

 

[TV's Adam West]

You guys are insane! Cog went to another country to find ralph after soliciting donations to do so. He even brought a roided friend that Ralph didn't even know that sucker punched him.

Ralph didn't "create any plausible threat to cog's person" You can't go to another country to stalk another person with the goal of beating someone up, and claim that person is creating a dangerous situation to you! That just doesn't make any sense.

Shut up nigger.

 

[AltisticRight]

literary

Ralph was beaten into a transchink and you're fuming like one.
Literally a literary catastrophe.

 

[BSV]

Even if your not playing devils advocate I can respect the discourse so I'll play along. The trouble with this is that although im sure the intention to get physical with ralph was probably there we'll never find out what Cog intented to do, he'll probably say on the Kino Casino, any paypigs reading are welcome to ask on my behalf.

Here's some options of what could have happened if Ethan hadn't simply attacked Cog and Big Dave on sight like some kind of hostile NPC

1. Cog and Ralph have a verbal exchange on the streets of lisborn,
2. Cog contiunes to mock ralph behind his back and weakly try to get his attention
3. Cog and Big dave jump ralph in an alley/confront him in an alley

He didn't know dave as far as I know. Dave attacked him after cog punched him that is not even debatable.

Lol you should have stayed and gotten that CAT scan nigga you’re tripping. There’s video of one fat retard walking directly at and into the personal space of the other.

If you start punching someone for confronting you when you stalk them with a video camera you are a fucking idiot. That is not self defense. That is assault.

 

[The I Scream Man]

Considering that none of us really know how the Portuguese legal system operates (with a couple exceptions, it would appear) its pretty difficult to speculate what will happen except for what is known about how most laws operate when it comes to foreign nationals, which is that if the crime was a crime and was going to be prosecuted they wouldn't have let Cog and his friend board a plane out of there. As it stands the Portuguese system can be reasonably inferred to have said "no (real) harm no foul" and told them both to not do it again.

@BSV You keep harping on Cog showing up to kick Ethan's ass but you keep forgetting that even if Cog or his boy threw the first punch it was because Ethan met the legal definition of assault with intent to harm by approaching him, that's why here in The United States of Jesus Christ it is known that if you want to avoid that particular entanglement you have to be attempting to back out and not get involved. Ethan could have talked all the shit he wanted as he was walking away, but he didn't and he got what was coming to him, and it will happen again and again until he figures out how to disengage.

There are a lot of self defense doctrines in the states, each one is a little different but all of them I am aware of require you to be at least attempting to disengage from the conflict, no matter how half assed your attempts are, unless you can't (Castle Doctrine).

 

[Barbarus]

I'm glad he got beat and I'd be glad to see it again. Ethan got what he deserved. Physical violence is based and red pilled gainst subhumans, he should have been beaten regardless for the state of his body anyway.

Cause shit with people long enough, shit will start coming back.

@BSV being actually serious for a moment

If you start punching someone for confronting you when you stalk them with a video camera you are a fucking idiot. That is not self defense. That is assault.

Wrong, following or "stalking" someone does not give them the ability or pass to attack, Ralph knew nothing of the video or intentions of Cog on his stream, invited him to come to him, approached him and pressed him physically. Most laws in most countries around the EU agree that any form of touching on another person is classed as assault, it's stupid but it's how it's looked at. Does not matter about how hard or soft. When these things come to trial and looked into it matters about the context in why that person "assaulted" them. Malice was shown after the fact to Ralph, but prior to that he had no knowledge so willingly came upto Cog and clearly pushes or does something to Cog for the cameras to start fucking about even before Cog throws the first punch then Dan throws the first punch. Which is videoed as we see him arrive.

I get you're defending him, or skeptical about Cog, but don't act like you know what you're talking about there bud. As for the stalking or following, if someone put that up, you would have to tar every single paparazzi journalist in every country with that brush. Ralph is a public figure, and outside of the funding stream, which Ralph did not even know about. He was not defending himself, he invited Cog to come to him, he is the first one moving in aggressively, Cog can still defend himself. I think most of this shit is stupid, but its how it actually is.

 

[BSV]

@BSV You keep harping on Cog showing up to kick Ethan's ass but you keep forgetting that even if Cog or his boy threw the first punch it was because Ethan met the legal definition of assault with intent to harm by approaching him, that's why here in The United States of Jesus Christ it is known that if you want to avoid that particular entanglement you have to be attempting to back out and not get involved. Ethan could have talked all the shit he wanted as he was walking away, but he didn't and he got what was coming to him, and it will happen again and again until he figures out how to disengage.

There are a lot of self defense doctrines in the states, each one is a little different but all of them I am aware of require you to be at least attempting to disengage from the conflict, no matter how half assed your attempts are, unless you can't (Castle Doctrine).

Is this true, can you start punching someone in the streets for being to close to you when you approach and harass them with a camera? That doesn't sound right.

 

[Niggernerd]

Is this true, can you start punching someone in the streets for being to close to you when you approach and harass them with a camera? That doesn't sound right.

"Approach"
The fat faggot went up to cog and dan lmfao
And yes, in a normal just world sex offenders would be harrassed and attacked in the streets everyday until they kill themselves or communities burn them alive

 

[Barbarus]

Is this true, can you start punching someone in the streets for being to close to you when you approach and harass them with a camera? That doesn't sound right.

It sounds right to me, perfectly reasonable, don't act like Ralph didn't lay hands first before Cog through the first punch. Watch the opening and the cameras. Just because Ralph didn't swing first, doesn't mean he didn't do anything else when he came flying round the corner.

 

[Amazing Criminal]

Is this true, can you start punching someone in the streets for being to close to you when you approach and harass them with a camera? That doesn't sound right.

Can you be a menace to society and inflict unsuspecting portuguese to your gunt and asscrack? Doesn't sound right to me. Can you holler lets go then cry the victim when they go? Doesn't sound right to me.

 

[BSV]

It sounds right to me, perfectly reasonable, don't act like Ralph didn't lay hands first before Cog through the first punch. Watch the opening and the cameras. Just because Ralph didn't swing first, doesn't mean he didn't do anything else when he came flying round the corner.

I just know from personal experience that people have invaded my personal space several times as a provocation. I have for sure been provoked. But If I had punched in any of those situations I would be arrested for assault. Should it be different when it's political activism and Ethan ralph? I don't get your weird mental gymnastics about this.

 

[The I Scream Man]

Is this true, can you start punching someone in the streets for being to close to you when you approach and harass them with a camera? That doesn't sound right.

Of course it is, if the argument can be made that the person who started swinging felt in fear (not difficult considering all Ethan does is harm himself in this manner, making the case that he is a violent individual every time he opens his fat gob) then yes, self defense doctrine in the civilized world is that you can more or less proactively defend yourself

Up until that point they hadn't done anything, and they didn't approach him, he approached them, by his own admission no less, so that's right out.

You also state "harass them with a camera", and the legal response to this is that filming individuals or anyone at all on a public street is perfectly legal because it is in public, if the person being filmed doesn't like it then they need to do what they can to get away from the person filming them or take available legal recourse, like calling the police or getting a restraining order or something, not charging the person in question

ETA:

I just know from personal experience that people have invaded my personal space several times as a provocation. I have for sure been provoked. But If I had punched in any of those situations I would be arrested for assault. Should it be different when it's political activism and Ethan ralph? I don't get your weird mental gymnastics about this.

What basis do you have for assuming you'd have been arrested for assault? If you had imminent fear for your personal safety and had some sort of proof that they'd been provoking you (like, say, a video recording of it) then why would you have anything to fear? That's an easy case if you live in a remotely civilized part of the world

 

[Barbarus]

I just know from personal experience that people have invaded my personal space several times as a provocation. I have for sure been provoked. But If I had punched in any of those situations I would be arrested for assault. Should it be different when it's political activism and Ethan ralph? I don't get your weird mental gymnastics about this.

You wouldn't have as long as you used justifiable force and felt you were in danger of being hurt. That's what you're missing. If someone "assaults you" then you have the right to defend yourself, unless you're in Japan or one or two other non third world countries outside of Europe. This is the general rule on it.

No mental gymnastics here, you're talking a lot about this but you don't even know what you can and can't do as you've just shown.