Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Aidan]

Maybe I'm retarded, but if the weapons shipments are being tracked then why not have remotely driven decoys to force Russia to waste those long range missiles?

wat

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

It wont. It will be exactly the same. Chances are, military in countries sending this shit are saying this exact thing - ukrainians have no serious air defence and shipments will be destroyed once they arrive in the first logistical zone. But we both know how much do politicians listen to reason.

Game theorists already know how many weapons are successfully getting through. The amount is enough to matter. The only mathematical unknown for western modeling is survivability rate of children after a Russian soldier rapes them.

 

[Regenbogen]

They should be arrested for exposing potentially sensitive info. Loose lips sink ships. Unless that Ship is a Russian black sea warship. Then a Neptune missile sinks it.

potentially sensitive info: we're losing hard

 

[Regenbogen]

Game theorists already know how many weapons are successfully getting through. The amount is enough to matter. The only mathematical unknown for western modeling is survivability rate of children after a Russian soldier rapes them.

so obsessed with pedophillia, i wonder if you're projecting something

 

[World in Scarlet]

It wont. It will be exactly the same. Chances are, military in countries sending this shit are saying this exact thing - ukrainians have no serious air defence and shipments will be destroyed once they arrive in the first logistical zone. But we both know how much do politicians listen to reason.

If Ukrainians have no serious air defense, why does the Russian air force play such a small role in this conflict? They lost a couple aircraft and helicopters and haven't dared to fly their bombers within range of non-existent Ukrainian air defense since. Meanwhile the Ukrainian Air Force that Russians said they destroyed in the first days of the war has started to fly combat sorties in the last weeks.

There's videos of Russians blowing up Ukrainian weapons storages, but there's also footage of Ukrainians blowing up Russian stores and supply colons.

Russians talk big about how they destroy everything that enters Ukraine but they have provided no evidence for that being the case.
We've seen Russian missiles missing their targets, falling out of the sky, and we've seen Ukrainians use Western artillery in battle.

My Russian friends say that 95% of the information that comes from Russian government sources was a lie before the war and it has only gotten more retarded since then. We can see how demented their propaganda for internal consumption is with their Nazi Jew and biolab nonsense.
I don't believe statements by the Ukrainian authorities either, but while they were caught lying before, they have also been right often (backed by videos and troop movements). That makes sense, they have to deal with NATO who don't like being lied to, as the Russians learned the hard way. While the Russians have no reason or inclination to tell the truth, the Ukrainians have to play nice with their supporters.

Reminder to not believe the words of either side, there's no point rushing to conclusions based on worthless data ("someone said it on the internet"). If you disagree, here's the real revelation:

Spoiler

The state of Russia is a fabrication of Ukrainian Bandera Neo Nazis concocted to scam money and material out of the West. At the moment clandestine Azov spec ops plan to steal an electric teapot from Vira Ivanivna of Verhni Zalupy village while posing as Russian and leaving fake CIA produced copies of RFA rations.

 

[UVB-76]

A. Much more trucks
B. Much more fuel (scarce)
C. Getting rid of all russian spies in ukraine and poland
D. A lot of realistic looking decoys
E. For russians to lose all and every satellite that can look over eastern europe.

Doable, sure. But its a lot of effort for little payoff. And even if decoy is hit instead of the real thing, ukrainians cannot afford logistical losses.

A few trucks seems a worthwhile expense compared to losing the materiel they actually need or else they get slaughtered by artillery.
Nevertheless, things don't have to be. They just have to seem. Remember that decoy from the early weeks of the war?

You don't need an actual truck. It just needs to look like a truck from the outside.
The spies thing is another interesting avenue. Purposefully feed different information across your hierarchy, and by looking at which convoy gets hit you know where the leak comes from.
The satellite issue isn't a big deal, for example the US worked secret aircraft projects despite the Soviets having satellites. You know when they fly overhead so you can hide stuff.

ETA and with waining aerial defences, russians can just send normal planes to bomb the convoys.

Okay, that would still mean risking aircraft which is a good thing for Ukraine.

wat

Ever played Three Card Monte?

 

[kuuu]

 

[Garm]

I cant get them now either. They want me to register for it, they can suck my dick instead.

In a short, you got an article literally telling you that media has been lying to you for months. In turn, commenters call anyone saying that russia is winning a russian spy. Somehow. Despite the publication itself admitting to it.

Comments are back. Entire salt veins to Earth's core there.

So three possibilities on why this story was run.
1. Salvage some credibility for the Washington Post after the Ukrainian Army collapses.
2. NATO has decided to escalate and now they need to convince their populations to go with it.
3. Biden pissed in the CIA's wheaties again and this is how they get back at him.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Well a new take from Colonel McGregor.

@Fougaro "One of the Azov Nazi LARP-ers the Russians excavated out of the Azovstal cumpit did at some point threaten Kadyrov how he will kill all Chechens and gang rape his daughters, on which there is even an article."

This is his instagram: https://www.instagram.com/khimikdavid/
This might be the video but I'm not sure as I don't understand what he's saying:
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I don't know what is up with the American flag in the background for the hohol.

However nothing sadder than acting like a tough guy then cucking hard to folks who probably hate hard as well.

A kino video about fighting for Mariupol
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This reminds me of Battlefield 1 lol in some ways.

Is there a link to the full documentary for it or link to a website for this?

... Ah. Okay, I take my words back then.


Not only that, these tanks may be used for both aim practice and tank learning purposes, so my guess is that some of these outdated tanks might to end up in training camps. In theory. We'll see.


The only combat they might to witness would be the one going on training fields like I've told already. Still not certain about that.


Right... right. Sorry, guess I do have some triggers that get turned on by bullshit like this.

And who'd buy this outdated stuff? Africans?



Against light infantry without any sort of AT weapons. Other than that it's an obsolete machine, by all merits.

Funny enough there are nations still using the T-34 and Laos sold all of their stock back to Russia.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/03/russias-t-34-tank-terrorized-hitler-and-is-still-in-service/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-34#Current_active_service

However T-62 isn't used by Myanmar anyways to begin with but it was an interesting take.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-62#Current_operators

 

[Oxous]

Some pictures of Petro Poroshenko having a lovely chat with some border guards have been released, and speculation is running wild on what's going on with him. A lot of people are claiming he's been arrested for trying to flee to Poland, while others say he's just going to attend a NATO summit and is doing perfectly fine.

 

[DumbDude42]

A. Much more trucks
B. Much more fuel (scarce)

if you think europe somehow has a shortage of trucks (lmao) or fuel you are seriously delusional lol

 

[Aidan]

The satellite issue isn't a big deal, for example the US worked secret aircraft projects despite the Soviets having satellites. You know when they fly overhead so you can hide stuff.

I'd be surprised if Russia didn't have a geosynchronous spy satellite that can make out "heavy weapons" well enough to track them throughout all of Ukraine.

Ever played Three Card Monte?

I may have been retarded interpreting your post, I read "remotely driven decoys" as remote controlled decoys which is a bit much.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

If Ukrainians have no serious air defense, why does the Russian air force play such a small role in this conflict? They lost a couple aircraft and helicopters and haven't dared to fly their bombers within range of non-existent Ukrainian air defense since. Meanwhile the Ukrainian Air Force that Russians said they destroyed in the first days of the war has started to fly combat sorties in the last weeks.

There's videos of Russians blowing up Ukrainian weapons storages, but there's also footage of Ukrainians blowing up Russian stores and supply colons.

Russians talk big about how they destroy everything that enters Ukraine but they have provided no evidence for that being the case.
We've seen Russian missiles missing their targets, falling out of the sky, and we've seen Ukrainians use Western artillery in battle.

My Russian friends say that 95% of the information that comes from Russian government sources was a lie before the war and it has only gotten more retarded since then. We can see how demented their propaganda for internal consumption is with their Nazi Jew and biolab nonsense.
I don't believe statements by the Ukrainian authorities either, but while they were caught lying before, they have also been right often (backed by videos and troop movements). That makes sense, they have to deal with NATO who don't like being lied to, as the Russians learned the hard way. While the Russians have no reason or inclination to tell the truth, the Ukrainians have to play nice with their supporters.

Reminder to not believe the words of either side, there's no point rushing to conclusions based on worthless data ("someone said it on the internet"). If you disagree, here's the real revelation:

Spoiler

The state of Russia is a fabrication of Ukrainian Bandera Neo Nazis concocted to scam money and material out of the West. At the moment clandestine Azov spec ops plan to steal an electric teapot from Vira Ivanivna of Verhni Zalupy village while posing as Russian and leaving fake CIA produced copies of RFA rations.

There's good reason why Iskanders and Kalibrs have become a bit of a meme on Pro-Russian circles, they're basically the only "air" units we've really seen be effective besides the odd SU-25. The VVS have easily been the most ineffective branch so far, and even some Pro-Russian accounts have been lowkey shitting on them. Whether the VVS' failures have been caused by intentionally being sidelined, a lack of funding for more up to date equipment that isn't currently an airshow showcase, or simple doctrinal failings will probably only be known in the aftermath of this war.

 

[kuuu]

There's good reason why Iskanders and Kalibrs have become a bit of a meme on Pro-Russian circles, they're basically the only "air" units we've really seen be effective besides the odd SU-25. The VVS have easily been the most ineffective branch so far, and even some Pro-Russian accounts have been lowkey shitting on them. Whether the VVS' failures have been caused by intentionally being sidelined, a lack of funding for more up to date equipment that isn't currently an airshow showcase, or simple doctrinal failings will probably only be known in the aftermath of this war.

VKS*

 

[DumbDude42]

The VVS have easily been the most ineffective branch so far

the navy would take that award, don't you think?

 

[PittyKitty]

Poland never looses. Like Hungary, they only surrender land to increase their hatred and feed off its power.

Our forces will meet to toast for victory in the Pacific over dead USA, Russia and China, just give us a few thousand years!

Poland is such a pain in the ass its easier to kill yourself than to try rule over it.

No one wants to government Poland, not even polish citizens. This is why its such a shit show.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

It really is insane how tactics + bruteforcing things have managed to see Russia finally make significant gains in Ukraine, despite quite possibly the most retarded opening move to a war in recent history. It really felt like they started the conflict an entire month too early, without everything in place for an attack. Either a general made a major fuck up and began the assault too early or Biden baited Putin into making that move to save face, hell maybe Putin does have cancer afterall and was all "fuck it, I don't have a month to wait"

I'm honestly curious what the original plan was other than maybe the land bridge to Crimea, it seems like the Kiev move was either a decoy move or hoping for a quick surrender that would achieve their goals without much bloodshed. Once they had to withdraw from Kiev they lost a stupid amount of planes, tanks and infantry in completely fruitless pushes until they switched things around and tried the 'pockets' approach.

Either Russia is getting significantly better here or the elite Ukrainian troops have been decimated, leading to low morale volunteers surrendering at the first sign of gunfire. Azov folk were regarded as the Marines/SAS equivalent of Ukraine and with them eventually getting crushed via the Steel plant seige seems to have been the key moment for a general turnaround.

One thing is certain though, once a quick surrender was out of the question the war goals changed dramatically to requiring as much of Ukraine conquered as possible to negotiate victory. Hell, maybe Russia really does want to completely annex Ukraine.

 

[White_N]

Is there a link to the full documentary for it or link to a website for this?

link

 

[White_N]

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Poland is such a pain of the ass its easier to kill yourself than to try rule over it.

No one wants to government Poland, not even polish citizens. This is why its such a shit show.

Poland, you will never become a real graveyard of empires Afganistan

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

so obsessed with pedophillia, i wonder if you're projecting something

When discussing certain ethnic groups, some cultural behaviors are so common, they will be brought up as a part of casual discussion. Whites decorate with kitschy motivational phrases, blacks steal bikes, and Moskals rape children.