Containment What SHOULD Chris's fate be? - Gay CWC fanfic edition

[Arkenas Einbrecht]

Didn't you beat your mom?

His grand mother, actually, according to his own discord posts. Liam has a habit of consistently lying on a whim. So we can't really take him at his word regarding the details of the encounter. it's much more likely he attacked her in a fit of autistic faggotry.

You can see the details, according to Liam, in this post from @Smug Freiza Smug also posted the publicly available court listing regarding the assault. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/liam-gray-retroboy1983-akashic-soldier-tyne-conquest-comics.78083/

I don't quite know *why* he is so unhinged, but I speculate it's due to brain damage or a poorly developed brain. I lean toward Fetal Alcohol Syndrome or Fetal Alcohol Effects. As it explains his mental deficiencies and his bizarre physiology.

 

[Analog Devolved]

Great Topic!

I was taking a 30-minute break from manga production, and I found my mind drifting back to Chris. I’d mentioned him to a friend one of my artists last week and they’d never really heard of him. I had not kept up with things following the rape and as I sat here in the quiet of the night, I found myself giving this very quest a lot of serious consideration…

What should *actually* happen to Chris Chan? What would be just?

I’d lie if I was to say that I had no sympathy for the man. His entire life seems like a massive cautionary tale that spiralled wildly out of control. I’ve been keeping up with Chris since the Pickle Man Saga as a quiet observer. It’s been obvious for sometime that his inability to differentiate reality from fantasy is getting worse. I think we can all agree this is a clear sign of serious mental illness.

The same is true of his desperation, and as he becomes increasingly desperate, the lengths to which he will go to satisfy his unsated desires will only increase. This seems legitimately dangerous to me.

Sure, he’s always been a whacky character but part of me can’t help but wonder if all the harassment drove him deeper into withdrawing and the crippling loneliness and inability to find true friendship or love is what ended up dragging him deeper and deeper into degeneracy until this was the only place it could have ended.

Did he lack the tools he needed to repair the wreckage of his shattered life? Was he railroaded into ruination?

Does Chris have full agency? I don't know. I'm not sure I believe he does. He reminds me a a lot of a disabled child, and so while I am utterly disgusted, I cannot bring myself to hate him for his actions or hold him fully accountable for them. Which is an uncomfortable feeling because so much about the man disgusts me.

That said, its obvious to anyone with even rudimentary knowledge of his history that he has performed too many heinous acts for him to be considered redeemable at this point. Am I wrong?

It probably seems quaint but as a Christian I want to believe everyone, no matter how fucked up, can change, and turn the life around...

But idealistic notions to one side, Chris did rape his mother. Not only that. He raped her while he had a duty of care to her, and she lacked the mental and physical capacities to resist his advances. Also, he thinks he is a deity with magical powers. If he was not caught it would not surprise me if he ended up wearing her skin as a suit.

I mean, while the Chrisologists here like to think they know everything there is to know about the guy, this is really just the stuff we know. He’s been shown to be rather sneaky, especially in the last few years, so it would not surprise me at all if there is more that he’s still managed to keep hidden.

The Verdict
It was a real toss up between jail and putting him in a mental hospital. However, at the end of the day I decided for the latter. But, and this is coming from someone that does not believe in the death penalty, I think that MAYBE Chris has reached a point where it might be genuinely kinder to execute him and remove him as a burden on the state.

If he ever gets out, I can see him becoming a child molester or descending deeper down a path of no return. Worse, I believe that the morbidity of his case and the gawker nature of the internet will make a e-celebrity out of him if he is released – it was already starting to happen with voice acting gigs.

It is my honest belief: If he walks a freeman after being locked up for so long… if he “gets away with it” in his own mind… his delusions and the severity of his future offenses will RADICALLY escalate.

TLDR: Chris done raped his mentally retarded mother and should never see the light of day again. While I pity the tragic events of his life from the voice of god booming through that animatronic bear to Sega changing the color of Sonic's arms, I believe it would be best for him (and society) if he was taken to a room full of legos and given a Fanta with some kind of painless poison so he just never wakes up again.

Okay, that was my one allowed distraction for the day. Back to work. Sorry for the wall of text guys!

Didn't you kill puppies and beat an old lady?

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

His grand mother, actually, according to his own discord posts. Liam has a habit of consistently lying on a whim. So we can't really take him at his word regarding the details of the encounter. it's much more likely he attacked her in a fit of autistic faggotry.

You can see the details, according to Liam, in this post from @Smug Freiza Smug also posted the publicly available court listing regarding the assault. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/liam-gray-retroboy1983-akashic-soldier-tyne-conquest-comics.78083/

I don't quite know *why* he is so unhinged, but I speculate it's due to brain damage or a poorly developed brain. I lean toward Fetal Alcohol Syndrome or Fetal Alcohol Effects. As it explains his mental deficiencies and his bizarre physiology.

I'm very familiar with claims antics, just strange he's back on the farms after his lolsuit threats.

 

[Captain Manning]

Hi @Tyne.

No, we haven't forgotten. Sorry.

I'm very familiar with claims antics, just strange he's back on the farms after his lolsuit threats.

Like I just said in the CG thread, he might think that raping one's own mother might be worse than beating one's own mother (or grandmother... as if it really makes much difference) so he now has the moral high ground. Or something.

It's pretty sad if the best you can muster in life is being better than Chris-Chan.

 

[CuntSnack]

His grand mother, actually, according to his own discord posts. Liam has a habit of consistently lying on a whim. So we can't really take him at his word regarding the details of the encounter. it's much more likely he attacked her in a fit of autistic faggotry.

You can see the details, according to Liam, in this post from @Smug Freiza Smug also posted the publicly available court listing regarding the assault. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/liam-gray-retroboy1983-akashic-soldier-tyne-conquest-comics.78083/

I don't quite know *why* he is so unhinged, but I speculate it's due to brain damage or a poorly developed brain. I lean toward Fetal Alcohol Syndrome or Fetal Alcohol Effects. As it explains his mental deficiencies and his bizarre physiology.

At least he hasn't raped her. Yet. Most of these people are capable of anything at this point.

Either way, part of me votes for the electric chair because of Flavius Anthemius' post, though I'd just say lock him up in an asylum and throw away the key. The worst you'd get is if he was placed in a group home where one freaks out and sets off the others in the process. He certainly shouldn't be living in normal society, let alone be an 80-year-old's carer.

 

[Ophelia]

It really is a shame we don’t just put people in mental hospitals anymore. Can anything be done to change this?

He must live at 14 Branchland for eternity.

That’s too good for him.

 

[Azoychka]

It really is a shame we don’t just put people in mental hospitals anymore. Can anything be done to change this?


That’s too good for him.

Are there really none of that type of asylum any more? Slight pl but my mom worked at one pre-Reagan days, but said there was some kind of 'reform' that shut most of em down. All her fun mostly harmless (but still kind of a roulette) crazies were given a bus ticket to wherever they picked and sent off, and she was transferred to a more medically oriented facility, for people like the Hartley potatobabies, who obviously couldn't just be turned out. But it just seems like something there has to be a lot of need for, though, so I'd expect some swank for-profit ones to exist if nothing else, and then social aid to pay for those to creep in. Maybe not in Virginia, but somewhere.

 

[Ophelia]

Are there really none of that type of asylum any more? Slight pl but my mom worked at one pre-Reagan days, but said there was some kind of 'reform' that shut most of em down. All her fun mostly harmless (but still kind of a roulette) crazies were given a bus ticket to wherever they picked and sent off, and she was transferred to a more medically oriented facility, for people like the Hartley potatobabies, who obviously couldn't just be turned out. But it just seems like something there has to be a lot of need for, though, so I'd expect some swank for-profit ones to exist if nothing else, and then social aid to pay for those to creep in. Maybe not in Virginia, but somewhere.

Without getting political, there were people on one side saying it was too expensive and people on the other saying it was inhumane. The first group has changed their mind (to simplify), but the second group hasn’t. Plus everyone wants to run on fixing the issue without actually fixing it (because that would be one less thing to run on). Homeless people who should be in an institution is a huge problem in the US.

 

[Hambubger]

I want Chris to wander the streets and get addicted to drugs, fight other hobos and beg for cash

 

[Pointless Sperg]

If we're able to colonize mars, send him to a Penal colony as that's what they used to do with undesirables back in the day

Any colonization of Mars that could possibly happen in Chris' lifetime will require absolutely everyone living there to contribute to the survival of the colony. It's too far away from Earth to send emergency aid, and your local resources are basically CO2 and (hopefully water). Everything else is something that has to come from Earth or something you can make using equipment from Earth.

Even making building materials like steel would require an electric smelter built on earth, and a shitton of power from a nuclear reactor from Earth. Mars has ample amounts of iron and carbon, but it doesn't have free carbon or free oxygen to extract it the way iron age civilizations did it (and the way most places still do it today).

You'd never send Chris to Mars, because you'd be dooming the colony with one extra useless hunk of flesh that it can't afford to support. If Chris were *born* on Mars they would kick the shit out of him to make him contribute, and if he was too retarded he'd get sent on the first ship back to Earth if he was lucky, or have an airlock "accident" if the colonists decided to do what must be done. (Chris' body would then go to feed the fungus farm, the only way Chris could actually help the community survive.)

 

[Tyne]

I never beat my mother. I've never beaten any woman. And I've never been convicted of a crime. Your fabricated fan fictions of my life are lame, sad and poorly researched and none of that has anything to do with the topic at hand.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

I never beat my mother. I've never beaten any woman. And I've never been convicted of a crime. Your fabricated fan fictions of my life are lame, sad and poorly researched and none of that has anything to do with the topic at hand.

Curses! Our dastardly plot has been foiled!

 

[A-№1]

there were people on one side saying it was too expensive and people on the other saying it was inhumane. The first group has changed their mind (to simplify)

Not really. It's just that the "better way" implemented by the second group has turned out to be even MORE expensive than the old asylum system, and well, you can see how ineffective it is.

but the second group hasn’t.

Why would they give up an opportunity to virtue signal on someone else's dime?

Any colonization of Mars that could possibly happen in Chris' lifetime will require absolutely everyone living there to contribute to the survival of the colony.

What the hell could we get from Mars that we couldn't get cheaper and easier back on Earth anyways? The idea of a Martian colony is even less economically viable than the Jamestown scheme was.

We'll exploit the asteroids before ever bothering with Mars, and nobody wants to be an airlock away from hard vacuum with someone like Chris on board. I wouldn't even want to go on a Disney Cruise with him (I imagine Chris is about the only thing that could make one worse).

tl;dr: We'll make space colonies to get away from people like Chris, not bring them along.

 

[A-№1]

I never beat my mother. I've never beaten any woman. And I've never been convicted of a crime. Your fabricated fan fictions of my life are lame, sad and poorly researched and none of that has anything to do with the topic at hand.

Who the hell even are you?

And why should I care?

 

[FiddleAFox]

Chris ought to just be put to sleep, he's beyond help.

I never beat my mother. I've never beaten any woman. And I've never been convicted of a crime. Your fabricated fan fictions of my life are lame, sad and poorly researched and none of that has anything to do with the topic at hand.

you should learn how to quote
also, $20 says you beat your mother

 

[Pointless Sperg]

What the hell could we get from Mars that we couldn't get cheaper and easier back on Earth anyways? The idea of a Martian colony is even less economically viable than the Jamestown scheme was.

A second place that civilization can be built that would be mostly immune to global thermonuclear war (at least not until it got big enough to be worth nuking, at which point there would be doubtless more colonies elsewhere). Safe from an asteroid striking the Earth (though of course it could be hit by an asteroid too). Safe from a global pandemic thanks to a six month travel time.

It would have to reach self-sufficiency for all these things, but once it does, you'd have a civilization of the best, brightest, and most motivated people.

It's insurance. It gives humanity a fighting chance to survive from the worst possible outcomes -- stuff that living on different continents used to make you mostly safe from before globalization turned the Earth into One Place. (Though it was never safe from Big Asteroid Strike).

You could probably protect from most of those things with a bit less effort by building a self-sufficient underground base in Antarctica, but you'd have to enforce things like the six-month-travel rule, which people would inevitably break, and you'd have a hard time recruiting people if you tried. With a Mars colony, physics enforces it, and for most people it would be a one-way trip.

Most of the doomsday scenarios wouldn't eliminate humans from Earth entirely, but they would eliminate modern civilization.

nobody wants to be an airlock away from hard vacuum with someone like Chris on board.

You see a problem, I see an opportunity.

tl;dr: We'll make space colonies to get away from people like Chris, not bring them along.

Definitely an added benefit. People keep thinking that space colonies are where rich people will go to get away from a destroyed Earth. That's not true -- for a long time space colonies will be tiny, cramped, and uncomfortable, with almost none of the luxuries that rich people take for granted.

However they will definitely attract people who want to get away from a good chunk of the bullshit. Scientists and engineers who could never afford their own private island.

 

[redcent]

It really is a shame we don’t just put people in mental hospitals anymore. Can anything be done to change this?


That’s too good for him.

There are people who genuinely need help because their brain is fucked, and there's the technology (or at least better technology than before) to assist these folk. And, as mentioned there's all these homeless folk who need help

I'd sooner sent barb there if her dementia gets worse than sending a brick wall of a mind like Chris and risk some chick who's been dealing with voices saying Richard Ramirez is after her only to get harassed by chris

Chris is a deviant first and foremost, and he should be treated as such. To fix chris you might as well tie him up and condition him clockwork orange style until he pukes everytime he sees china or hears the pokemon theme

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Great Topic!

I was taking a 30-minute break from manga production, and I found my mind drifting back to Chris. I’d mentioned him to a friend one of my artists last week and they’d never really heard of him. I had not kept up with things following the rape and as I sat here in the quiet of the night, I found myself giving this very quest a lot of serious consideration…

What should *actually* happen to Chris Chan? What would be just?

I’d lie if I was to say that I had no sympathy for the man. His entire life seems like a massive cautionary tale that spiralled wildly out of control. I’ve been keeping up with Chris since the Pickle Man Saga as a quiet observer. It’s been obvious for sometime that his inability to differentiate reality from fantasy is getting worse. I think we can all agree this is a clear sign of serious mental illness.

The same is true of his desperation, and as he becomes increasingly desperate, the lengths to which he will go to satisfy his unsated desires will only increase. This seems legitimately dangerous to me.

Sure, he’s always been a whacky character but part of me can’t help but wonder if all the harassment drove him deeper into withdrawing and the crippling loneliness and inability to find true friendship or love is what ended up dragging him deeper and deeper into degeneracy until this was the only place it could have ended.

Did he lack the tools he needed to repair the wreckage of his shattered life? Was he railroaded into ruination?

Does Chris have full agency? I don't know. I'm not sure I believe he does. He reminds me a a lot of a disabled child, and so while I am utterly disgusted, I cannot bring myself to hate him for his actions or hold him fully accountable for them. Which is an uncomfortable feeling because so much about the man disgusts me.

That said, its obvious to anyone with even rudimentary knowledge of his history that he has performed too many heinous acts for him to be considered redeemable at this point. Am I wrong?

It probably seems quaint but as a Christian I want to believe everyone, no matter how fucked up, can change, and turn the life around...

But idealistic notions to one side, Chris did rape his mother. Not only that. He raped her while he had a duty of care to her, and she lacked the mental and physical capacities to resist his advances. Also, he thinks he is a deity with magical powers. If he was not caught it would not surprise me if he ended up wearing her skin as a suit.

I mean, while the Chrisologists here like to think they know everything there is to know about the guy, this is really just the stuff we know. He’s been shown to be rather sneaky, especially in the last few years, so it would not surprise me at all if there is more that he’s still managed to keep hidden.

The Verdict
It was a real toss up between jail and putting him in a mental hospital. However, at the end of the day I decided for the latter. But, and this is coming from someone that does not believe in the death penalty, I think that MAYBE Chris has reached a point where it might be genuinely kinder to execute him and remove him as a burden on the state.

If he ever gets out, I can see him becoming a child molester or descending deeper down a path of no return. Worse, I believe that the morbidity of his case and the gawker nature of the internet will make a e-celebrity out of him if he is released – it was already starting to happen with voice acting gigs.

It is my honest belief: If he walks a freeman after being locked up for so long… if he “gets away with it” in his own mind… his delusions and the severity of his future offenses will RADICALLY escalate.

TLDR: Chris done raped his mentally retarded mother and should never see the light of day again. While I pity the tragic events of his life from the voice of god booming through that animatronic bear to Sega changing the color of Sonic's arms, I believe it would be best for him (and society) if he was taken to a room full of legos and given a Fanta with some kind of painless poison so he just never wakes up again.

Okay, that was my one allowed distraction for the day. Back to work. Sorry for the wall of text guys!

>Wants literal motherfucker to do a variant cover for him.
Was this you getting up the morning you made this post, @Tyne?

 

[Hepativore]

I am being factitious, of course, but he should be sent to one of those sex offender trailer parks that they have in some states and made to wear an ankle bracelet to track his movements. If he does not abide by the rules of the SOR for rape, then I think he should spend a few days in big boy prison genpop before he is isolated to force him to learn to keep his mouth shut before he gets his head smashed into a wall by a disgruntled inmate.

Imagine the meltdown that would ensue from Chris upon learning that he cannot go to his favorite places to hang out anymore because of the SOR as there might be children present.

 

[Tyne]

>Wants literal motherfucker to do a variant cover for him.
Was this you getting up the morning you made this post, @Tyne?

It was years ago and I didn't want Chris Chan to do a cover for me, 5t3n0g0ph3r. I wanted the countless people that throw away their money on him to throw it away on my book instead. It was supposed to be something to laugh about yet youre acting outraged over something that I never even followed through with. You going to thread ban me here too, pussy?

Chris is a deviant first and foremost, and he should be treated as such. To fix chris you might as well tie him up and condition him clockwork orange style until he pukes everytime he sees china or hears the pokemon theme

Do you think its even possible to condition the behaviour of autistic individuals or are their compulsions greater than their instincts for self preservation? (Legit asking). Like if someone has tourette's and a gun to their head, can they control it?