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Fascism is a form of government where the apparatus of the state/local governments...Basically they're a scam construction company that burns down your house so you have to pay them for a new one.
I always get facism, communism, socialism, and authoritarianism confused. To me, they are the same thing, a toxic, cancerous political philosophy/system that will never work outside of paper because humans are shit. Clarifying, they don't work for nations and huge groups of people.
 
I always get facism, communism, socialism, and authoritarianism confused. To me, they are the same thing, a toxic, cancerous political philosophy/system that will never work outside of paper because humans are shit. Clarifying, they don't work for nations and huge groups of people.
Well, you're wrong. Firstly, as I said, authoritarianism is a component of a system, not the system itself. An engine is not a car by itself, it is a part of one, to illustrate by example. Each of the three systems or philosophies of government that you mention have different traits and characteristics - if you're unable or unwilling to learn about what distinguishes them from one another then maybe you should refrain from making big sweeping generalizations.
 
They're doing too good a job for me to accept the incompetence defense.
I wouldn't say they're intentionally destroying the economy. They're just that fucking stupid.
Yes, they're stupid, but Hanlon's Razor is giving them a cop-out.

Their stupidity is born of their evil. In their arrogance, they cannot accept anything detrimental to their own interests. Thus, they always double down even when they're obviously wrong.
 
I wouldn't say they're intentionally destroying the economy. They're just that fucking stupid.

I think it's intentional, but the goal is hobbling, not complete destruction. The goal is China as the world's prominent global power, but total economic destruction of the US would blow them up too.

America #2, China numba wan, is the goal.
 
I wouldn't say they're intentionally destroying the economy. They're just that fucking stupid.
They're doing too good a job for me to accept the incompetence defense.

As someone has said previously in the thread, "these things aren't exclusive."

They're incapable of thinking and planning in the long term (or rather what impact their decisions can have in the future), so in their mind, anything they do to fuck with people can be recoverable, or will never come back to bite them in the ass.

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That's just depressing...
 
I think it's intentional, but the goal is hobbling, not complete destruction. The goal is China as the world's prominent global power, but total economic destruction of the US would blow them up too.

America #2, China numba wan, is the goal.
Do these idiots really think they can just hop on China's tit right after making it the new boss? Answer: Yes, they do.

The whole point of being a useful idiot is being useful, but only up to a certain point, all without you realizing your reward at the end is a figurative (and perhaps even literal) bullet to the back of the head. These useful idiots have no idea what's next for them, even if they think they do.
 
The whole point of being a useful idiot is being useful, but only up to a certain point, all without you realizing your reward at the end is a figurative (and perhaps even literal) bullet to the back of the head. These useful idiots have no idea what's next for them, even if they think they do.
They're all convinced of their genius.

"I was able to crash the US economy and destroy its social fabric, there's no way some dog eating chinks are smarter than me..."

They think they're smart enough to come out on top no matter what, that they're rich enough that they'll be the top dog and China will have to ask them for favors.

None of them picture other people as having self-determination and their own goals.

And they literally can't conceive of any failure on their end due to their own stupidity, maliciousness, and incompetence.
 
The current in-power group are Radical Marxists
They aren't Marxist, they're something else entirely. The ones actually running the show are neoliberal parasites who believe in nothing but power for the sake of power. Any similarities to any kind of consistent ideological or moral framework is either totally coincidental or a purposeful act to placate the citizenry. You can look from pig to man and barely tell the difference anymore.
 
Well, you're wrong. Firstly, as I said, authoritarianism is a component of a system, not the system itself. An engine is not a car by itself, it is a part of one, to illustrate by example. Each of the three systems or philosophies of government that you mention have different traits and characteristics - if you're unable or unwilling to learn about what distinguishes them from one another then maybe you should refrain from making big sweeping generalizations.
A car without an engine is still a car, but it doesn't drive. I'd say that authoritarianism is an essential component of Fascism, and it ceases to function without it.
 
They're all convinced of their genius.

"I was able to crash the US economy and destroy its social fabric, there's no way some dog eating chinks are smarter than me..."

They think they're smart enough to come out on top no matter what, that they're rich enough that they'll be the top dog and China will have to ask them for favors.

None of them picture other people as having self-determination and their own goals.

And they literally can't conceive of any failure on their end due to their own stupidity, maliciousness, and incompetence.
You're making me root for China. They don't tolerate gweilo masters.
 
By tossing so much shit in the "alt-right pit" they're just ensuring when some of that stuff is let loose, it might let other stuff out too.
The dustbin of history is full, so to speak.
This is intentionally destroying the economy for....? I don't see it helping the elites even. Maybe if they value a wealth gap more than total wealth which would just make them actually evil instead of just selfish.
They're aiming to make the bulk of humanity either dead or a permanent serf class. They don't understand that a thriving middle class is responsible for modern civilization, along with Christianity and Western culture.

They think they can eliminate the middle class, Christianity, and White people and still get what they want. It's because they are stupid. But they are also malicious and powerful and can do a lot of damage until people start fighting back. At what point we see that is currently unknown. But every incident adds up. Elections are stolen and courts do nothing. Schoolchildren are shot and cops do nothing. Borders are crossed and governments do nothing.

Sooner or later the people will come to the understanding that if we do things, they will also do nothing. Those cops felt comfortable blocking and then arresting a few parents because they knew that it wouldn't come to mob violence. But suppose it did? Suppose those cops had been forcibly disarmed, arrested by the citizens, and the parents had done their jobs for them? The elites rely on us accepting their authority forever but when they never use that authority for anything good they erode all trust in it. I see a cop and wonder what he's guilty of. They can't undo that.
 
They're aiming to make the bulk of humanity either dead or a permanent serf class. They don't understand that a thriving middle class is responsible for modern civilization, along with Christianity and Western culture.

They think they can eliminate the middle class, Christianity, and White people and still get what they want. It's because they are stupid. But they are also malicious and powerful and can do a lot of damage until people start fighting back. At what point we see that is currently unknown. But every incident adds up. Elections are stolen and courts do nothing. Schoolchildren are shot and cops do nothing. Borders are crossed and governments do nothing.
I think they're imagining a Noah's Ark scenario where the mass of humanity is wiped away and they can take all the accumulated resources for their new human progeny. I'm sure that there have been secret genetic experiments happening since the 90s, designed to create more perfect humans, as well as work in automation and other technologies that will keep a small number of people comfortable in perpetuity.

They don't want China to win. They want China and the USA to destroy each other.
 
I think they're imagining a Noah's Ark scenario where the mass of humanity is wiped away and they can take all the accumulated resources for their new human progeny. I'm sure that there have been secret genetic experiments happening since the 90s, designed to create more perfect humans, as well as work in automation and other technologies that will keep a small number of people comfortable in perpetuity.

They don't want China to win. They want China and the USA to destroy each other.
The whole problem is that they genuinely believe they'll survive the blast, crawl out of the ashes and rule over whatever's left.
 
I'm sure that there have been secret genetic experiments happening since the 90s, designed to create more perfect humans, as well as work in automation and other technologies that will keep a small number of people comfortable in perpetuity.
All the talk about AI has convinced me they've made no real progress with technology that would allow them to "eliminate the useless eaters". They've probably been "on the cusp" of something for 50 years but it merely inches closer and meanwhile they're getting older. I think the only reason 2030 is the deadline is because they're running into a literal deadline. These people want to see some payoff for their lifetime investment in woo-woo technology.

SCHWAB: So, when I pull this switch, it will turn me into the ruler of the world, yes?
FLUNKY: Actually it just initiates a global blackout. The rest is-
SCHWAB: And when the electricity comes back, I will be the ruler of the world? Okay, I will do it.

Then you get a comedy disaster movie as the secret headquarters of the elite loses power along with the rest of the world but they killed all the workers who built the place so they can't get the power back on.
 
Then you get a comedy disaster movie as the secret headquarters of the elite loses power along with the rest of the world but they killed all the workers who built the place so they can't get the power back on.
This is actually a really good concept for a sitcom. A bunch of rich assholes trying to live in the hell world they created, done up like Black Adder. Fuck, even get Rowan Atkinson to do it...
 
I can't remember which TV show it was, but some nukes went off and fucked America right in the ass.

A few episodes in the banks were rolling in and demanding their mortgages and the like, trying to take the farms with crooked lending bullshit and had mercs to enforce it.

Then were all surprised.pikachu.face.jpg when people started fucking fighting back.

Now...

They want everyone disarmed and complacent because after their Great Reset Disaster, they don't want anyone fighting back when they come out of their shelters. They'll hoard the guns and ammo and that way when they come out they have guns, ammo, food, money, and gasoline, which means they come out on top automatically.

Not that they'll roll into some hard ass motherfucking town that had survived 5 years of Hell going "We have all this, you must submit" and the town will go "Now we have all that AND some new fat slaves to ass fuck."
 
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