Are we ever going to find genuine sanity in society again? - Did 2014 really break us?

[Big Scumfuck]

I reference 2014 because that's when Gamergate happened and the lefties started pushing a lot harder than before. But I'd been seeing stuff starting to bubble in 2012....but I feel like people being terminally online is getting worse and worse. Both sides are escalating on their various bullshit. Grooming, Shootings...the demoralization tactic that Gramsci promoted is working on us all.
Are we going to get over the hill? Is their gold at the end of this pain rainbow? or are we going to be stuck being forced to care about "current things" for the rest of our lives while we slowly get our autonomy taken from us because the elites want that.

By caring about all of this dumb shit, you are playing into the hands of the people that want control. It's purposeful demoralization. Do we only win when things fall apart completely?

 

[Beautiful Border]

I think there's something about the Internet that makes people go crazy. I don't think it's a coincidence that society started becoming weird right around the same time the average person started using the Internet sometime in the mid-2000s.

 

[DumbDude42]

no
half a century of ubiquitous mass media laid the foundation for the disaster, then two decades of internet were the killing blow

 

[Wormy]

no
half a century of ubiquitous mass media laid the foundation for the disaster, then two decades of internet were the killing blow

Should end the thread here.

 

[Absolutego]

I think there's something about the Internet that makes people go crazy. I don't think it's a coincidence that society started becoming weird right around the same time the average person started using the Internet sometime in the mid-2000s.

That year is 2007:
-Tumblr and Twitter are both founded
-Facebook allows non-.edu emails to register with the site
-Apple releases the first iPhone that July.

The Endless July swamped web 2.0 culture to the point of near-extinction the same way the Eternal September did with Usenet culture.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

We might somehow pull out of this epistemic collapse. The cathedral's grasp on control of information has been challenged at a deeper level than I think they'd accounted for - it's not that people on the right distrust CNN more than before, or the left distrusts Fox more; both sides are losing trust in their own side. Inevitably that leads to people losing trust in institutions in general and when they're this fucking useless and infiltrated that's a good thing. Ideally we wouldn't have to all wake up and realize we're being played but the ideal isn't reality.

 

[Skitarii]

The cathedral's grasp

Synagogue*

 

[Kiwifarmsname]

Have we ever?

 

[BiggerChungus]

When the Lord returns.

 

[PaleTay]

I think there's something about the Internet that makes people go crazy. I don't think it's a coincidence that society started becoming weird right around the same time the average person started using the Internet sometime in the mid-2000s.

I feel like it's life circumstances, I can talk to people I grew up with and the world seems mostly normal in our bubble even if I expected it to be weird or uncomfortable it almost always works out. I see the craziness enough in older people I don't think it's the internet, or just the internet. I think it's HR, and the culture around work.

 

[Beautiful Border]

I feel like it's life circumstances, I can talk to people I grew up with and the world seems mostly normal in our bubble even if I expected it to be weird or uncomfortable it almost always works out. I see the craziness enough in older people I don't think it's the internet, or just the internet. I think it's HR, and the culture around work.

Part of it is just that the Internet makes the crazies who already exist more visible. Insufferable feminists, black nationalists with enormous victim complexes, and America-hating leftists have existed for decades now, the difference is that they were a lot easier to ignore. Can you imagine how fucking obnoxious living in the late 60s would have been if the Internet had been around back then?

 

[Screamer]

Nope, and it's going to cause something terrible.

Mass delusions, mass hysteria, moral panic and conspiracy thinking has gone mainstream. It happens on both sides of the political divide, and even happens about how one side views the other side.

Unless people start admitting things are going insane, it'll just get worse and worse.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

People need to keep it in mind that the internet is not the real world. If you walked up to someone outside asked if they used Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, 4chan or anything like they would say no. I don't know what goes on with the lefties online. But I do know wignats have this thing where they were grooming mass shooters on 8chan.

I don't think it's a good idea for people to sit around and stare into the abyss that is the internet all day. Also, the media plays a role in this as well. They have a habit of taking a small issue and making it seem worse than it actually is. You can see this happening with both right leaning and left leaning media. The same way that the leftist media convinced a small minority of crazies that Trump was orange Hitler you have the right leaning media convincing people that the sky is constantly falling. The economy is always about to collapse there is huge of mob of trannies out there running around doing shit to people. You listen to some people on the far right and we are just one second away from going full blown Weimar. On the left it's that America is literally racist (though we had a nigger president) POC are being rounded up and exterminated especially by the police and the country is overrun with Nazis and KKK. Just look at what they are doing with the whole guns and mass shootings thing now. Making it seem like there is a mass shooting in the US everyday. That's not the case at all.

It comes down to the fact that people need to step away from the internet. Before tablets and smartphones, you had to be near a PC to use the internet. If you didn't have a job that allowed you access to a computer and you had to leave your house to do something that means you got away from your computer and the internet at least for a while. These days everyone can stay steeped in the internet nonsense with tablets and smartphones. Even easier than a laptop. They could go to the park and sit on the bench and read and hear all the fear porn they want from their favored political camp. Also you have the fact that we live in modern times now and information travels faster and we get more of it than we used to thanks to technology. It's even faster now than it was in the mid 2000's and people back then thought it was fast.

Another issue is that the left is pushing politics into everything now. They say everything is political. They want to keep everyone agitated and that's why they call it agitprop.

People just need to go outside get some fresh air and touch some grass.

 

[gang weeder]

Maybe, but it'll take a period of serious turmoil and scary shit going down.

 

[skykiii]

Maybe, but it'll take a period of serious turmoil and scary shit going down.

This is my fear exactly.... although reading the guy directly above you was comforting in this regard, since yeah the internet has a way of making things look more common than they really are.

My other thought is it really would take some kind of supernatural intervention. Despite what every JRPG on Earth says, humanity has repeatedly shown that as a race, it really does almost need some sort of higher being watching over it.

That's not advocating religion, any more than buying a pack of lightbulbs is advocating atheism. It's just a simple case of "if you can't see, get a light source."

 

[Osmosis Jones]

People need to keep it in mind that the internet is not the real world. If you walked up to someone outside asked if they used Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, 4chan or anything like they would say no.

I wish this were still the case. Most people won't admit to being a 4chan user and being a Twitter user is inconsequential, but pretty much everyone I know is at minimum a casual Facebook or Reddit scroller. They may not "buy into" the narratives like classic Leftists do, but they are under the impression that it is the correct narrative and the one they need to align with.

You are right that people need to stop taking the internet as real life. Unfortunately it's the casual scrollers mindlessly parroting the narratives to their peers that propagate the internet lies the fastest, combined with the fact that MSM is now almost exclusively from clickbait and alarmist articles instead of your usual news hour on TV. I can't even begin to count the number of times that someone told me about a headline that they saw on Facebook or Reddit and didn't look any further than that.

 

[Catler]

Unfortunately it's the casual scrollers mindlessly parroting the narratives to their peers that propagate the internet lies the fastest

Not even narratives, but sayings and phrases too. Within a day or two of something becoming popular on Reddit I'll hear family causally using it in conversation. It honestly makes me feel embarassed for them, but I'm the odd one out in this regard and I don't think they're even aware they're doing it.

 

[YourFriendlyLurker]

Go out, walk in a park, go shopping. Most of the people you are gonna encounter are in the condition you would call "sane".

 

[urr13 account]

Sure, all we gotta do is get everyone on the planet to agree to return to 2004 era technology, including cell phones and internet speed, plus execute journos and get rid of the fbi/cia/atf/who/wef/wnba (to stop the psyops, and because no one watches womens basketball anyway)

 

[tehpope]

That year is 2007:
-Tumblr and Twitter are both founded
-Facebook allows non-.edu emails to register with the site
-Apple releases the first iPhone that July.

The Endless July swamped web 2.0 culture to the point of near-extinction the same way the Eternal September did with Usenet culture.

Big Bang Theory premiered in Sept. 2007.