13-year-old boy killed by San Antonio police was grieving death of his sister, mother says


Lynda Espinoza's 13-year-old son was fatally shot by a San Antonio police officer — and she says it took the department five days to call her to let her know her son was dead.

Espinoza said she first found out that an officer killed her son, Andre Hernandez Jr., because she pieced together news articles about a police shooting of a teenager in her neighborhood around the time her son died.

“I really don’t understand what the police are hiding,” she said. “My son was 13 years old. That’s the key. He was a little boy, and he did not deserve to get shot and killed by a police officer.”

Police finally called Espinoza on Tuesday evening after NBC News contacted them and she appeared on local news.

They told her they would allow her to view partial police bodycam video of the encounter Monday morning, she said.

"I don't know what I'm supposed to do when I see it, but I want to see why they shot my son.”

Just two weeks earlier, Espinoza had laid to rest her 16-year-old daughter, Naveah Martinez, who was found shot to death May 10 in a stolen car near the family’s home.

The most recent tragedy for Espinoza unfolded around 1:20 a.m. Friday, when Andre was killed. Police allege that a youth intentionally slammed a stolen car into a police vehicle, causing an officer to shoot into the car to stop him from striking again.

San Antonio Police Capt. Jesse Salame said Friday that officers were responding to gunfire in the area when they spotted a red car that matched the description of a vehicle seen by the shooting. When police approached the car, driven by Andre and carrying two other teens, the boy threw it into reverse and struck another patrol car behind him, he said.

Fearing officers would be struck again, an officer from the first patrol car fired once into the fleeing vehicle, killing the boy, police said.

After he was shot, the youth stepped out of the car to surrender, police said. He was treated by paramedics and taken to a nearby hospital, where he died, they said.

Police said that the officer involved in the shooting has been placed on administrative duty until further notice and that no officers or passengers in the car were injured.

San Antonio police have not publicly identified the victim, saying in a statement that “because of his age, we are prohibited by law in releasing the suspect’s name, and any video/reports associated with this suspect/incident.” But they said Wednesday morning that the "suspect’s mother has been contacted and we are working with her to communicate the next steps of the investigative process."

Espinoza said "it was not justified" that they took five days to contact her after the shooting.

She said that the hospital informed her that her son had been shot but that she was given only minimal time to view him before he was “put in a body bag and taken away.” She still has not received any medical reports or paperwork.

After Espinoza read reports that police had killed a 13-year-old, she put two and two together, prompting her to visit the site of his death Friday.

After she talked to an eyewitness, Espinoza said, the police account “didn’t add up.”

A neighbor who livestreamed the aftermath of the shooting on Facebook said he saw police pulling the boy from the vehicle, according to the San Antonio Express-News.

“Instead of trying to apply pressure, he’s pulling him out, and he’s still trying to search him,” Jesse Hernandez, who saw the incident, told the newspaper and Andre’s mother.

“The little boy was like: ‘Not so rough, officer, please. I’m in pain,” he said. “‘Don’t be so rough. It hurts, officer.’”

The police kept telling the boy to “stop moving” and “let us help you,” the Express-News reported. Hernandez told the newspaper that he did not see blood from the wound because of the boy’s clothes and that he saw “little to no damage to the front of the car,” it reported.

He said his video was deleted from Facebook shortly after he posted it, according to the Express-News. NBC News has not seen the video.

Espinoza also said the witness told her that officers delayed calling an ambulance and that her son was handcuffed after he was shot — a point rebutted by police, who said the boy was not handcuffed until he was placed on the EMS stretcher.

Andre died down the street from where his sister was killed, Espinoza said.

She said Andre that had become reclusive and that he left home after his sister’s funeral on May 20, which was also the last time she saw him. She reported him to authorities as a runaway but was later told by his friends that he was staying with them, she said.

“I’m not pretending my son was an angel, you know — he was dealing with the loss of his sister already. After my daughter passed, he wasn’t coming home and started getting mixed up.”

“He still deserves justice.”

Ebonie Hernandez, Hernandez’s aunt, who traveled to San Antonio from Chicago to attend her niece’s funeral, said she saw her nephew change in the days after his sister’s death.

“When I visited seven months ago, we had a wonderful time watching movies together. He was a good kid,” she said. “It’s just, you know, kids get mixed up, and he was grieving. They’re young, they get in a new crowd, and instead of being the leader that he was, he decided to follow other kids, and he got caught up in a bad situation.”
 
My favourite hobby is cross referencing bodycam videos with the gofundmes from the parents.

For example, watch this perp get his breathing license revoked by Texas Ranger Chad with one deadeye shot for jumping out of the car with a gun:


If you're at work, I've screencapped and magnified the proof:
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That gun is pointed directly at the officer, by the way. Good shoot, right? Not if you ask this "bystander" what happened:
One eyewitness who saw what happened said the gun belonged to the passenger, who left it in the car when he fled from the stop.

"The dude evidently had jumped out and ran," said Geoffery Evans. "And Mark tell them, he got a gun in the truck. Police tell him put his hands out the window, back up slow, woot woot, He did everything they said, but he had his little bag on him, and as soon as he went to switch the bag like, to a certain position, the police say he got a gun on him and we're like, no he don't, but they shot him."
Now if you've seen the video, you'll know this is a complete and total fabrication. There is not even a way this man could have mistakenly believed this is what happened; he is just maliciously lying about it.

Of course, we also get big bro chiming in:
ABC11 spoke with Moises Diaz, who is the suspect's brother. He wants to know why his brother was killed.

"I do want some answers, because an officer is, even if they have a gun, they are meant to detain a person, not kill," Diaz said.
But that's tame compared to what they said on the GoFundMe, written by dear old mom. "He a gud boy; he dindu nuffin!":
Hey ! This is a family member making this for the family that is going through the death of Mark Anthony Diaz (The 21 year old, who died and got shot by a State Trooper) He was a son, a brother, a friend, a human with a living soul someone who had a plan in there life, a young man who wanted to start his own clothing brand, Mark was a good person with a even better heart. If you would like to help this family, it would mean a-lot to them . The reason why we are asking for help is because no one should've be going through this, The state trooper had no motivation to have killed Mark Anthony Diaz ! We want answers, we want to know what really happened.
We are trying to help the family open an investigation for justice of Mark Anthony Diaz.
But hey, at least they held a vigil for the guy:
Paige said he has unanswered questions.

“To know what happened, why did he shoot first, what made him not think to try to detain him, or whatever he had to do besides kill him,” he said.
 
>son gets killed in a police shootout
>daughter was just found killed in a stolen car
>5 days go by and apparently her son being missing is normal behavior
>no mention of the father


Sounds like another example of a broken gang banging family brought about by shitty parenting. I'm going to guess that the reason it took so long for her to be "notified" was she was out all week doing fentanyl or something and couldn't be bothered to answer the phone. Next she's going to file a multi million dollar lawsuit against the city to cash in.
My favourite hobby is cross referencing bodycam videos with the gofundmes from the parents.

For example, watch this perp get his breathing license revoked by Texas Ranger Chad with one deadeye shot for jumping out of the car with a gun:


If you're at work, I've screencapped and magnified the proof:
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That gun is pointed directly at the officer, by the way. Good shoot, right? Not if you ask this "bystander" what happened:

Now if you've seen the video, you'll know this is a complete and total fabrication. There is not even a way this man could have mistakenly believed this is what happened; he is just maliciously lying about it.

Of course, we also get big bro chiming in:

But that's tame compared to what they said on the GoFundMe, written by dear old mom. "He a gud boy; he dindu nuffin!":

But hey, at least they held a vigil for the guy:
Just shows you what a joke eyewitness testimony is. When people aren't blatantly lying as if police don't have body and dash cams, human brains suck at remembering things in the moment.
 
Her 13 year old is missing 5 days and she doesn't call the cops and the hospitals?
Mother of the year candidate here.
Cars are weapons, sounds like a good shoot.
Play grown up games, win grown up prizes.
Yahoo is surprisingly based, at least until they turn off comments.
The Hispanics that don't contact the police are probably illegal.
 
My favourite hobby is cross referencing bodycam videos with the gofundmes from the parents.

For example, watch this perp get his breathing license revoked by Texas Ranger Chad with one deadeye shot for jumping out of the car with a gun:


If you're at work, I've screencapped and magnified the proof:
View attachment 3368352
That gun is pointed directly at the officer, by the way. Good shoot, right? Not if you ask this "bystander" what happened:

Now if you've seen the video, you'll know this is a complete and total fabrication. There is not even a way this man could have mistakenly believed this is what happened; he is just maliciously lying about it.

Of course, we also get big bro chiming in:

But that's tame compared to what they said on the GoFundMe, written by dear old mom. "He a gud boy; he dindu nuffin!":

But hey, at least they held a vigil for the guy:

I too watch a lot of cop videos. My key takeaways:

Tasers don’t work

Everyone is constantly lying about not having done anything, if there’s a gun in the car, and that they can’t breathe

Black suspects will instantly pivot to cries of racism even when being arrested by a black cop

People who have committed a minor offense are absolutely retarded and utterly determined to turn a misdemeanor into a ten year felony bid

Bystanders make awful witnesses

Families and communities will insist that someone who was just trying to kill a cop is the sad sad victim, there is no circumstance where they won’t blame the cop, including if the dead or arrested guy was trying to kill them

Most cops are actually very professional and calm and will try to save the life of someone who just tried to kill him

I’m not even that much of a cop apologist, but these videos really make you feel like people are absolute dirtbags. In particular, I’m a dopey square and it just didn’t occur to me before watching so many bodycam videos that people are relentless liars.

All of that said, I’m not a monster and I do feel for the mother who lost two children, but I also think that millions of mothers across the land know where their 13 year old sons are at any given time and that’s basically the path to prevention, not insisting that cops let themselves get run over.
 
“It’s just, you know, kids get mixed up, and he was grieving. They’re young, they get in a new crowd, and instead of being the leader that he was, he decided to follow other kids, and he got caught up in a bad situation.”

While this is true and it may happen in perfect family too, the Hispanic community (especially in urban areas) has a huge problem with gangs and cultural norms that make them behave aggressively.
Plus, TWO murdered kids is either very bad luck or very bad parenting.
 
“When I visited seven months ago, we had a wonderful time watching movies together. He was a good kid,” she said. “It’s just, you know, kids get mixed up, and he was grieving. They’re young, they get in a new crowd, and instead of being the leader that he was, he decided to follow other kids, and he got caught up in a bad situation.”
The mother could at least admit her kid was no angel. The amount of cope the aunt has is incredible. Kids that are good don't run away with other delinquents to go driving around in stolen cars that they use as weapons against the police. I wonder how many times the police were at the mother's house leading up to deaths of her children?
 
All of that said, I’m not a monster and I do feel for the mother who lost two children
Maybe I am a monster, because at this point I feel nothing but contempt for scum like her and her children. They take and take and take and make everything shittier for the rest of us, and when their wanton acts of violence are met with *gasps* violence, they cry and scream and try to drag our system to down to benefit other shitstains like them. Their entire existence is a drain, and if this women and her kids had never existed it would have been a 100% positive thing for the rest of us.

I've seen plenty of parents condemn their children after committing horrible acts, this cunt get's no sympathy for having two fucked up kids. The only thing she deserves is a compulsory sterilization.
 
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I really miss Live PD. That was a very eye opening program and funny most of the time. Peak entertainment.

But of course we can't have that.
It’s coming back as “On Patrol: Live”. No word on how cucked it’s going to be this time since one of the factors in its cancelation was that Texas jogger dying after leading the cops on a high speed chase.
 
I really miss Live PD. That was a very eye opening program and funny most of the time. Peak entertainment.

But of course we can't have that.
I’ve always supported dashcams and body cams for cops because of incidents like the video above and the article.

It’s far too easy for witnesses to miss something or purposefully lie because “Fuck the police” but a camera just shows you what happened.

Also, I know this lady’s probably gonna get a massive payout but she should get a good slap for raising absolute terrors and yes, I have a lot of experience with her kind and the hellspawn they produce with their half-dozen kids all with different dads.
 
B-BUT MY BASED TRADCATH HISPANICS!
Nickers can't stop winning!
I’ve always supported dashcams and body cams for cops because of incidents like the video above and the article.

It’s far too easy for witnesses to miss something or purposefully lie because “Fuck the police” but a camera just shows you what happened.
Activists pushed for bodycams and are now pissed it vindicates police in nearly every instance.
 
My favourite hobby is cross referencing bodycam videos with the gofundmes from the parents.

For example, watch this perp get his breathing license revoked by Texas Ranger Chad with one deadeye shot for jumping out of the car with a gun:


If you're at work, I've screencapped and magnified the proof:
View attachment 3368352
That gun is pointed directly at the officer, by the way. Good shoot, right? Not if you ask this "bystander" what happened:

Now if you've seen the video, you'll know this is a complete and total fabrication. There is not even a way this man could have mistakenly believed this is what happened; he is just maliciously lying about it.

Of course, we also get big bro chiming in:

But that's tame compared to what they said on the GoFundMe, written by dear old mom. "He a gud boy; he dindu nuffin!":

But hey, at least they held a vigil for the guy:
The Michael Brown "hands up don't shoot" shooting completely and permanently destroyed my faith in the common man's ability to either gauge or respect the truth. PBS put out a table of all the eyewitness testimonies and their responses to key questions. Did he have his hands up, was he facing away, and so forth. I don't think there are two witnesses who had the same account of what happened, despite there being dozens of them, and all but one witness changed at least one answer when re-questioned. Only two of the witnesses gave an accurate description of what happened, and neither of them answered (or were asked) most of the questions.

If people on the street can't be trusted not to lie about what happened, you'd have to be mentally retarded to trust the testimony of an interested party.
 
I'll be fair about the whole taking 5 days to contact her thing. 13 year olds don't have ID. How are the cops or the hospital going to know who the kid is and who to contact? The mother evidently wasn't too concerned about her son missing. She did call the cops to report him missing at first, but according to the article, one of the kid's friends told the mom that he was staying with him, so that was good enough for her, I guess. Did she try confirming if her son was actually staying with his friend or not? Did she try contacting the friend's parents to see where her son was, or to send him home? It doesn't sound like it.
 
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