Off-Topic Medical Sperging - Physical and Mental Health Speculation. "You always play psychologist with us!"

[The Joker]

It's the deathfats that really think GB surgery is the cure that gets me. I have worked as a coach and at the clinic I was at for a time, a lot of the death fats had already gotten the surgery.
My favorite was the woman that drank nothing but shakes after surgery. Which continued ice cream, extra "treats" for flavor (like half a candy bar). If I remember correctly, she was the heaviest we worked with.

Edited to add: the surgery does work, but to do so, it requires a major lifestyle change. You still have to restrict calories but the reduction in stomach size is an assistant to doing so. It fails often because the person will still eat foods high in fat/ calories, carbonated drinks, and larger portions that will slowly expand their stomachs. There are a bunch of side effects as well that are not too fun.

 

[Cardboard Box Mountain]

It's the deathfats that really think GB surgery is the cure that gets me. I have worked as a coach and at the clinic I was at for a time, a lot of the death fats had already gotten the surgery.
My favorite was the woman that drank nothing but shakes after surgery. Which continued ice cream, extra "treats" for flavor (like half a candy bar). If I remember correctly, she was the heaviest we worked with.

Edited to add: the surgery does work, but to do so, it requires a major lifestyle change. You still have to restrict calories but the reduction in stomach size is an assistant to doing so. It fails often because the person will still eat foods high in fat/ calories, carbonated drinks, and larger portions that will slowly expand their stomachs. There are a bunch of side effects as well that are not too fun.

I've seen two people eat through bariatric surgery in no time flat. They initially dropped enough to make the people around them hopeful, but they were still quite fat. I ran into both of them out and about from time to time while running errands, and each time they were eating takeout Chinese or Mexican. By the time about a year had elapsed they were piling it back on, and now, a few years later, they are both bigger than ever. They never changed the type of food they were eating, nor did they engage in regular exercise, and they stretched the stomach pouch right back out. I guess they initially satisfied the doctor's requirements just enough to slide under the bar, but thought that surgery was a magical solution not requiring substantial behavioral change on their part. Oops.

Guntal and Hamber are never, ever getting WLS. They just use the idea as a distraction. Amber will start something then make an excuse to back out, and Guntal never even starts. If she goes to one appointment of anything it's a miracle.

 

[Turd Fergusson]

Guntal and Hamber are never, ever getting WLS. They just use the idea as a distraction. Amber will start something then make an excuse to back out, and Guntal never even starts. If she goes to one appointment of anything it's a miracle.

If they do, it will be somewhere in Mexico, but for different reasons.

For Chantal, since she is living in Canada, her surgery would be at no cost to her, as for most countries with national health care, like the NHS. However, the queue for surgery might be months or years long and as a prerequisite, they would require her to diet and get counselling, which she will not do. Therefore, Mexico is her only solution.

As for Amber, the cost might be too much for her in the U.S., and, as with Chantal, the diet and get counselling is out of the question.

It would be folly for them to have such surgery as they would never follow the post-surgical restrictions needed for the surgery to work.

 

[Cardboard Box Mountain]

If they do, it will be somewhere in Mexico, but for different reasons.

For Chantal, since she is living in Canada, her surgery would be at no cost to her, as for most countries with national health care, like the NHS. However, the queue for surgery might be months or years long and as a prerequisite, they would require her to diet and get counselling, which she will not do. Therefore, Mexico is her only solution.

As for Amber, the cost might be too much for her in the U.S., and, as with Chantal, the diet and get counselling is out of the question.

It would be folly for them to have such surgery as they would never follow the post-surgical restrictions needed for the surgery to work.

Especially when you consider how Guntal already busted her hysterectomy surgery stitches by gorging herself.

 

[Ratoyan]

What effect does GB have on stomach bacteria and natural gut flora/fauna? I've always wondered about how "fucky wucky" things could become from messing about with the stomach that much. Do you have to take antibiotics or certain drugs for a long time to avoid infection or is it relatively non invasive? It just seems like such a crazy procedure.

Spoiler: Powerlevel here

I had someone close to my father when I was young who was super obese. Where I'm from that's kind of rare to see a deathfat sighting of over 300lbs. Id say she was just a bit over that. She would visit our country a lot to see us and go home, but when we would do walks she couldn't do any of them and would just stay at the rest area taking photos while her husband and my family would go up mountains or small scenic things. She ended up admitting it was humiliating and she felt left out but she owned up to it and got a GB. Dropped a ton of weight to almost skeletal proportions, tried to have skin surgery but infection and a weakened immune system ended up taking her life . She was a nice lady, just real troubled.

 

[I call shenanigans]

What effect does GB have on stomach bacteria and natural gut flora/fauna? I've always wondered about how "fucky wucky" things could become from messing about with the stomach that much. Do you have to take antibiotics or certain drugs for a long time to avoid infection or is it relatively non invasive? It just seems like such a crazy procedure.

No to antibiotics, but those who still have gall bladder will be instructed to take medication to prevent gallstones during the active loss months (generally about 6 months). Many surgeons will also prescribe an acid blocker to help prevent ulcers. The big change is the lifetime need to take vitamins and minerals....for GB patients it's double the usual daily dose, for VSG it's just the recommended daily dose.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

WLS is still the best option for an obese person. I don't get the push back against it. Yes, some death fats can gain every pound of it back through their foolishness. But I have seen in real life, far too many success stories from weight loss surgery. My Aunt decided to get the gastric sleeve in 2011 after the death of her husband. She was in the high 200's maybe even lower 300's then at 5'4. She is now like 125 pounds and it's been 11 years.

 

[12345]

For Chantal, since she is living in Canada, her surgery would be at no cost to her, as for most countries with national health care, like the NHS. However, the queue for surgery might be months or years long and as a prerequisite,

8 years where I am, but not as near a city as Chantal and every province is different. She could never stick to that length but if she could she wouldn't need it by the time she could get it because as you said, it requires lifestyle and diet choices she will never make. But if she did, she wouldn't in theory need the surgery. Of course she has to live that long.

 

[Constellationzero]

I love when Chins doesn’t give us much milk we all turn to her medical issues. I know it annoys a lot of people but I like the theories. I’ve noticed she’s been drinking the soda water this past week, which could explain the burping. PEE needs to have a back up plan for when she does have a medical emergency and he can’t get his pork nachos and internet paid for free.

You can see she’s back to her routine of being on the outs with KingGreenPeen, smoke, eat, smoke, eat, edibles, eat, eat, eat. Talks about other fake men in her life. But she’s poor right now so she has to settle for random crap around the villa to eat, chips, pickles, microwaved cheese. No one is even gifting her lokmas, everyone is sick of it. She put her address in the chat hoping someone would. It’s pathetic. She did casually drop her paycheck this month is going to be 12-13,000. We shall know if that’s true (which I doubt) by Monday. She knows she is worthless to McStabby unless she has money. And it looks like she’s already blown through the payday loan money. What an absolute loser.

The gunt almost assuredly has this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabuki_syndrome

Besides the horror face and the horror palette, there are the eating/cognition problems she definitely has.

 

[Garbage.Theory]

WLS is still the best option for an obese person. I don't get the push back against it. Yes, some death fats can gain every pound of it back through their foolishness. But I have seen in real life, far too many success stories from weight loss surgery. My Aunt decided to get the gastric sleeve in 2011 after the death of her husband. She was in the high 200's maybe even lower 300's then at 5'4. She is now like 125 pounds and it's been 11 years.

I think there is a far difference between your average fat person and a fat cow. If a person understands why they are fat, wants to change but needs help doing it, WLS will work. Sure, they might slip a bit and maybe they will only be normal fat instead of death fat, but you’re right, for the right mindset WLS is a good option.

Now our cows in the other hand are almost Entirely defined by their inability to understand the concept of cause and effect. It’s not (always) because they are stupid, but because they outright refuse to admit that they can be wrong and require change. Go into WLS with an attitude like that and you’re busting your stitches within a week.

 

[idomyfoodbucketlist]

These are the signs of histrionic personality disorder.



After reading this I'm in no doubt that Chantal is not a narcissistic in the least, she clearly has Histrionic personality disorder. Arm chair diagnosis complete.

 

[L. Ron Hubbard's Cat]

So, in one of her recent lives, Chantal was muttering about how she couldn't breathe and how people who are even fatter than her don't have the same problems breathing so obviously it had nothing to do with her weight, fat-shamers. And then she said, "I think I have pulmonary hypertension or whatever".

If that wasn't just a throwaway, stoned mumble, then this is really serious. This is what killed her grandmother. If this is true, the right side of her heart is being damaged as we speak. That means that her heart isn't able to move blood to her lungs and is in the process of slowly failing as the fluid builds up and seeps into other tissues and lungs. The life expectancy, without treatment, is under three years. With treatment, it's not much better. That's before we talk about her weight, her drugs/booze, and her myriad other issues. She could absolutely drop dead at any moment.

Symptoms of pulmonary hypertension? Shortness of breath, tiredness, dizziness, angina, and edema (especially of the abdomen and feet). Causes of pulmonary hypertension? Problems with circulation (especially in the extremities) lung diseases (such as asthma) and blood clots.

It reminded me a lot of when she casually mentioned she had a super ultra fatty liver "or whatever". Totally dismissed it. Didn't even care. Heard the word "fatty" and decided she was being shamed and didn't need to pay attention to the shamer.

It happens in the first few seconds of this video. I think the original stream was deleted, but if it wasn't, it's archived in the main Chantal thread.

 

[DelicateMageflower]

So, in one of her recent lives, Chantal was muttering about how she couldn't breathe and how people who are even fatter than her don't have the same problems breathing so obviously it had nothing to do with her weight, fat-shamers. And then she said, "I think I have pulmonary hypertension or whatever".

If that wasn't just a throwaway, stoned mumble, then this is really serious. This is what killed her grandmother. If this is true, the right side of her heart is being damaged as we speak. That means that her heart isn't able to move blood to her lungs and is in the process of slowly failing as the fluid builds up and seeps into other tissues and lungs. The life expectancy, without treatment, is under three years. With treatment, it's not much better. That's before we talk about her weight, her drugs/booze, and her myriad other issues. She could absolutely drop dead at any moment.

Symptoms of pulmonary hypertension? Shortness of breath, tiredness, dizziness, angina, and edema (especially of the abdomen and feet). Causes of pulmonary hypertension? Problems with circulation (especially in the extremities) lung diseases (such as asthma) and blood clots.

It reminded me a lot of when she casually mentioned she had a super ultra fatty liver "or whatever". Totally dismissed it. Didn't even care. Heard the word "fatty" and decided she was being shamed and didn't need to pay attention to the shamer.

It happens in the first few seconds of this video. I think the original stream was deleted, but if it wasn't, it's archived in the main Chantal thread.

Couldn't agree more. Hopefully this isn't too PL, but I thought it was relevant. My mom had circulation problems her entire adult life with all the same symptoms Chins has. Even with treatment and watching her weight (well, attempting, anyway. I won't lie, Mom was chunky in later years) a pulmonary embolism still got her and she was gone in seconds. Chins doesn't have a chance in hell.

 

[Wildrose]

When Chantal says other fat people don't have these problems, she forgets that other fat women don't have blood clots. Sure, obesity is a risk factor, but it is not common at all. Also, other fat women don't carry all their weight in front, every bit of it crushing their organs. They carry it on their butt and tits and thighs, in addition to the belly. Her body is so freakish.

 

[StanleyYelnats]

I know this sounds super gay, but it is possible Chantal could be a first in the DSM to die from ODD? Her organs were removed one by one. Killing her. ninja’d this from @StickyClits

 

[lurk_moar]

It's the deathfats that really think GB surgery is the cure that gets me. I have worked as a coach and at the clinic I was at for a time, a lot of the death fats had already gotten the surgery.
My favorite was the woman that drank nothing but shakes after surgery. Which continued ice cream, extra "treats" for flavor (like half a candy bar). If I remember correctly, she was the heaviest we worked with.

Edited to add: the surgery does work, but to do so, it requires a major lifestyle change. You still have to restrict calories but the reduction in stomach size is an assistant to doing so. It fails often because the person will still eat foods high in fat/ calories, carbonated drinks, and larger portions that will slowly expand their stomachs. There are a bunch of side effects as well that are not too fun.

I just stopped with the weight loss groups and made my life so much better. I didn't want to hurt fee-fees, but calories in calories out. You ain't a special snowflake, freak of nature if you can't lose weight, you just can't do it right. If you weigh about 300 ell bees, your initial weight loss should be easy as pie if you were to increase your movement and decrease calories.

I did my own research (I wear a lab coat at work) and became the big fat loser that I want to be.

In all as a shit lady, I do not support weight loss drugs or surgery. I support calories in and calories out. There has yet to be a morbidly obese concentration camp victim, Rwandan genocide survivor, Somalian refugee, or Khmer Rouge member circa 1979. I just wonder why all of these people were skin and bones instead of being curvy and well-nourished. I'm beyond stumped.

When they say diets do not work, I have maintained my weight for over a year because I simply do not binge eat garbage. I strictly limit what I eat, and have yet to keel over and die. Food does not bring me pleasure. Being thin gives me pleasure.

I also think attitude is everything. For example, I cannot eat cheesecake anymore because it gives me severe heartburn. My coworker who is plus-sized thought that that was sad that I can't eat cheesecake anymore. I did not give a jig because this is a giant excuse not to eat cheesecake. Do I miss cheesecake? Fuck no.

Remember, kids, that small long-term pleasure is better than short, strong, and fleeting pleasures. Think long-term because that will be your future.

 

[TrainWreckSpotter]

I also think attitude is everything. Remember, kids, that small long-term pleasure is better than short, strong, and fleeting pleasures. Think long-term because that will be your future.

This is true. Chins isn't willing to make even the simplest changes, like ordering pizza without dipping sauce, not asking for extra naan when she orders paneer, or cutting out the McFlurry when she orders McDs. If she tracked the few extra calories she'd be saving instead of taking the all-or-nothing approach (which never works for her), after a while she wouldn't miss those things and could continue to make incremental changes. But Our Lady of Perpetual Gunt isn't known for patience or self-control of any kind.

 

[Option]

It's the deathfats that really think GB surgery is the cure that gets me. I have worked as a coach and at the clinic I was at for a time, a lot of the death fats had already gotten the surgery.
My favorite was the woman that drank nothing but shakes after surgery. Which continued ice cream, extra "treats" for flavor (like half a candy bar). If I remember correctly, she was the heaviest we worked with.

Edited to add: the surgery does work, but to do so, it requires a major lifestyle change. You still have to restrict calories but the reduction in stomach size is an assistant to doing so. It fails often because the person will still eat foods high in fat/ calories, carbonated drinks, and larger portions that will slowly expand their stomachs. There are a bunch of side effects as well that are not too fun.

Read what was just written. WLS is a dangerous gimmick. Lifestyle changes are the only thing that matter.

The problem is obese people genuinely feel like they are starving to death constantly because of impaired leptin signaling. There is NO WAY to reverse this never feeling full feeling without reducing exposure of the gut to food until this vicious circle is broken. This means reducing food volume and increasing time between meals. Obviously, this strategy will not make you feel better in the short term, so most people just give up.

Obese people are functionally as addicted to food as opioid users are to opioids.

Leptin, Obesity, and Leptin Resistance: Where Are We 25 Years Later?

Leptin, Obesity, and Leptin Resistance: Where Are We 25 Years Later?

Leptin, a hormone that is capable of effectively reducing food intake and body weight, was initially considered for use in the treatment of obesity. However, obese subjects have since been found to have high levels of circulating leptin and to be insensitive ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[behavioral swamp thang]

It's crazy how all these bitches have a combination or all of the following ailments-
- diabeetus
- removed interior female reproductive organs
- removed gallbladder
- fatty liver
- unhealed sores/boils
- blood clotting issues

Like literally all of them. These women have nothing in common geographically, genetically. All they have in common is fat. HAES, i guess <_<

 

[Vulkan]

It's the deathfats that really think GB surgery is the cure that gets me. I have worked as a coach and at the clinic I was at for a time, a lot of the death fats had already gotten the surgery.
My favorite was the woman that drank nothing but shakes after surgery. Which continued ice cream, extra "treats" for flavor (like half a candy bar). If I remember correctly, she was the heaviest we worked with.

Edited to add: the surgery does work, but to do so, it requires a major lifestyle change. You still have to restrict calories but the reduction in stomach size is an assistant to doing so. It fails often because the person will still eat foods high in fat/ calories, carbonated drinks, and larger portions that will slowly expand their stomachs. There are a bunch of side effects as well that are not too fun.

Had a dude at work who got it done and threw up on himself multiple times cause he kept stuffing his pipe well past full