Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Geez. I hate to say it, but at least Lily can be semi-entertaining when it comes to small, stupid internet drama that no one would know and still no one would give a shit about until she makes a video. It’s kinda cringy to watch Patchwork Heart try to do this video seriously with the furry puppet and sloppy mouth sounds galore. There is so much to address when it comes to how fucked Lily really is—I’m surprised someone in her personal circle came away with only vague, petty gripes about discord calls.

“Vague petty gripes about discord calls”.

…I feel like you didn’t actually listen to the video just to make a snarky reply.

 

[Snusmumriken]

“Vague petty gripes about discord calls”.

…I feel like you didn’t actually listen to the video just to make a snarky reply.

I did listen to the full video. Is there something else you’re referring to? Because all I heard was the woes of yet another autist who isn’t ready for the internet.

 

[BreadLoafGuy69]

I did listen to the full video. Is there something else you’re referring to? Because all I heard was the woes of yet another autist who isn’t ready for the internet.

Lily took advantage of a schizophrenic autistic (+many more diagnoses) person who was abused by multiple people and is extremely poor. They're physically disabled as well, so most of their interactions are online cause they can't leave the house often. Lily knew this, made them become dependent on them for friendship and money, and not only treated them very poorly, but made them draw beastiality and rape porn for her because Patch needed money in order to survive. Lily manipulated a legally disabled person into being their smut machine and then threw them away once they no longer were of use to her.

Watch the whole video before shitting on the victim.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Lily took advantage of a schizophrenic autistic (+many more diagnoses) person who was abused by multiple people and is extremely poor. They're physically disabled as well, so most of their interactions are online cause they can't leave the house often. Lily knew this, made them become dependent on them for friendship and money, and not only treated them very poorly, but made them draw beastiality and rape porn for her because Patch needed money in order to survive. Lily manipulated a legally disabled person into being their smut machine and then threw them away once they no longer were of use to her.

Watch the whole video before shitting on the victim.

Wait, what?
Patch have that type of mental problems?
Holy shit, it's horrible. That explains a lot about his latest rage.
My bad... I'm so sorry, i thought otherwise all this time.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Also it’s pretty obvious Lily did all this smut demands/shitting on her wife/ect only in Discord calls specifically so there wouldn’t be a “paper trail”, so to speak.

 

[Son Goku Baku]

Also it’s pretty obvious Lily did all this smut demands/shitting on her wife/ect only in Discord calls specifically so there wouldn’t be a “paper trail”, so to speak.

She was still stupid enough to use her actual paypal and discord account to handle all the issues so it was still traceable. I can only imagine how much harder Liliana could have gone with the gaslightning and smearing Patch if they didn't had that. But I didn't know about the detail of her choosing Discord calls to give the requests... that adds a new layer of manipulation. She knew perfectly well that what she was doing was cheating and symbolically punishing Lizzy so did the bare minimun to hide it.

On another note, has her shota account been updated since Brittany brought it up? Or it has coincidentally being dead since then?

 

[Derped223]

Also it’s pretty obvious Lily did all this smut demands/shitting on her wife/ect only in Discord calls specifically so there wouldn’t be a “paper trail”, so to speak.

Only time a "paper trail" we could get from a discord call is if one of the recipients is recording a call without the other person knowing.

 

[BreadLoafGuy69]

Only time a "paper trail" we could get from a discord call is if one of the recipients is recording a call without the other person knowing.

Yeah, Patch didn't record any of the calls, and once Patch started talking about the beastiality porn, Lily deleted EVERYTHING. Anything in their DM's that would seem incriminating was wiped. She had to manually delete them or used one of those external applications to mass delete shit. Patch has since unfriended, but also unblocked Lily from Discord, and has closed the DM's. So, it's almost impossible for them to retrieve them unless they were in a shared server and they clicked their profile. I've suggested that to them, but they don't feel comfortable doing that, and anything noteworthy has been gone for years. It wasn't really needed for the video anyway.

 

[Duine In Cudromach]

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I don't have the mental energy to read her BS takes on subbing and dubbing and anime, to be honest but this one (archive) was short enough to catch my eye.

(bit of power leveling here, I guess) I'm a professional translator. I have a Master's degree in Translation, I have done translation works for subbing and dubbing and I have studied Mandarin and Korean (not Japanese though, but I know enough to know the following also applies to that language).

Most honorifics in these Asian languages simply do not have a direct translation for most Western languages. We don't have a complex idea of "respect" and "honor your elders/superiors" and "know exactly where you stand in the social food chain at all times". The words do not exist because the social structure and hierarchy is completely different and therefore we don't need these words to exist. The way we view ourselves in relation to others in Western cultures is 100% different from the way people do in (at least) some Asian cultures.

So "Sir" is the completely wrong option most of the time, actually. Most of the honorifics don't mean "Sir" or "Madam". They depend on the age and gender and job and relationship of everyone involved in the conversation. And this is actually why translation from Asian languages is very hard to get right. In those countries if you use the wrong honorific you will offend people, and we don't have a way to properly show the importance of that speech pattern in our languages and how much it influences the relationship and social dynamics between speakers.

So this here is probably one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen Lily Orchard say.

Me: "I think we can stop focusing on this topic unless Lily does a racism."
Lily: *immediately does a racism*

Perfect.

I don't actually disagree with her on the fundamental idea that using Japanese honorifics in a dub to a language that doesn't use them (which English doesn't; 'sir' and 'ma'am' are titles, not honorifics) is weird. I don't think it's inherently wrong and there are certainly situations where it would be appropriate, but if you're dubbing with expectation for large audiences just from an 'ear-feel' level it's better to try and find a way around it.

But that's a specific consideration for the market and to just say "It's basically the same thing!" betrays a willful ignorance for somebody who's fighting so hard to come out of this argument as the moral victor. She's homogenizing cultures, assuming that they're ally just basically the same unless they're inferior to her own.

This post is far too long to screencap so just have the archive link:

https://archive.ph/75n2c

See, this is the kinda shit that proves she sends herself asks, or has friends do it for her. This random ass question (that nobody would actually ask her because who the fuck cares what she thinks about Elf eyes in WoW) has a long, long, looooong response with more evidence than she's ever given for anything else. And of course she has to get snipes in at Danuser and Golden calling them fascist. When talking about the color/style of eyes. In a video game.

What I don't understand is: why not just make a post like "You know, I've been thinking about how inconsistent Elf eyes in WoW are.." and go from there? It's not like randomly bringing observations or thoughts about WoW is out of place on her blog. Why go through the extra hoops? Is it to make her fans seem more engaged and like she isn't just screeching at them all the time? I genuinely just don't understand this shit.

My theory is that it makes it look like other people give a shit and therefore validates her opinions as being relevant.

 

[ÁchtunaRoll]

https://archive.ph/jW5EY

Who would ask this, Lily?

Spoiler: Tropes Page Changes She Wants

What it is right now https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/TheSithResurgence

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

One Piece was one of the heaviest hit by localization. Guns and weapons changed to toys, blood removed, the pirate rap…

Changing Nami's actions during a tense plot, where you're supposed to be wondering about her loyalties and morality, to have her literally tell the audience prior to the reveal that she's on the level and that anything violent she does is just fake... Turning a tragic death that's the entire turning point of her backstory into a comedic scene where even the death is changed to 'Locked in a dungeon and never brought up again'... Removing basically all of the hardship Nami endured in her backstory that makes the villain's defeat have any payoff because Arlong's abuse is too much for kids to handle...

Nah, bad localization could never hurt the story, it's just some different words, guys.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

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https://archive.ph/jW5EY

Who would ask this, Lily?

Spoiler: Tropes Page Changes She Wants

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What it is right now https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/TheSithResurgence

Since she can’t change it on her own without being caught, now she self asks to get her simps
To do it for her.

 

[Derped223]

Yeah, Patch didn't record any of the calls, and once Patch started talking about the beastiality porn, Lily deleted EVERYTHING. Anything in their DM's that would seem incriminating was wiped. She had to manually delete them or used one of those external applications to mass delete shit. Patch has since unfriended, but also unblocked Lily from Discord, and has closed the DM's. So, it's almost impossible for them to retrieve them unless they were in a shared server and they clicked their profile. I've suggested that to them, but they don't feel comfortable doing that, and anything noteworthy has been gone for years. It wasn't really needed for the video anyway.

Yeah, might not have been needed for the video I can't really say since I didn't watch it, but those chat logs would've been more grounded evidence for Lily being into the shit she's been caught and accused of liking. But at the end of the day, it really was upto patch if they wanted to save those chatlogs.

 

[Andthensomeguy]

This post is far too long to screencap so just have the archive link:

https://archive.ph/75n2c

See, this is the kinda shit that proves she sends herself asks, or has friends do it for her. This random ass question (that nobody would actually ask her because who the fuck cares what she thinks about Elf eyes in WoW) has a long, long, looooong response with more evidence than she's ever given for anything else. And of course she has to get snipes in at Danuser and Golden calling them fascist. When talking about the color/style of eyes. In a video game.

What I don't understand is: why not just make a post like "You know, I've been thinking about how inconsistent Elf eyes in WoW are.." and go from there? It's not like randomly bringing observations or thoughts about WoW is out of place on her blog. Why go through the extra hoops? Is it to make her fans seem more engaged and like she isn't just screeching at them all the time? I genuinely just don't understand this shit.

Basically it's the same kind of rational someone uses to try and justify themselves doing something that is, more or less, a fun little time waster that they spent/spend way too much time doing, well, that mixed with a nice helping of the narcissism Lily's known for. Like a writer who spent 8 hours playing video games rationalizes it as "broadening their horizons" or when a keyboard warrior spends most of their day Tweeting but tries to sell it as "fighting against oppression", to give some examples. It sucks looking at your entire day and realizing you've accomplished nothing, so sometimes people try to rationalize it in a way that doesn't make it seem like they were actually working or doing something that betters themselves.

I can imagine what you said could be what Lily uses to justify all the hours she spends asking self ask that'll be seen by all of a dozen or so people, at most. She's not just talking into the wind, she's helping her brand by making it look like she gets asked questions all the time and interacting with her audiance, even if she knows its a lie, he'll still tell himself that it's a lie in service of expanded his influence and, by extension, counts as work. That and, like you said, Lily's narcissism would let him just make a Tumblr post because, in his mind, he wants to believe he's too important and too famous to not have people asking him questions.

At least that's my two cents on the matter.

 

[ChillyGengar]

Me: "I think we can stop focusing on this topic unless Lily does a racism."
Lily: *immediately does a racism*

Perfect.

I don't actually disagree with her on the fundamental idea that using Japanese honorifics in a dub to a language that doesn't use them (which English doesn't; 'sir' and 'ma'am' are titles, not honorifics) is weird. I don't think it's inherently wrong and there are certainly situations where it would be appropriate, but if you're dubbing with expectation for large audiences just from an 'ear-feel' level it's better to try and find a way around it.

But that's a specific consideration for the market and to just say "It's basically the same thing!" betrays a willful ignorance for somebody who's fighting so hard to come out of this argument as the moral victor. She's homogenizing cultures, assuming that they're ally just basically the same unless they're inferior to her own.



My theory is that it makes it look like other people give a shit and therefore validates her opinions as being relevant.

Oh yeah I definitely agree that we shouldn't transfer the honorifics in the translation most of the time! Except in some very specific cases where it makes sense to keep the original word. Like for example sensei in something like the Karate Kid, you know? But those cases are very rare and extremely specific, and it doesn't work with every honorific.

My point was that these are in no way the same thing. It's something that we simply have to accept will be lost in translation because more often than not there is no proper way to convey them 100% correctly.

However, I personally think it's important for someone consuming Asian cartoons/tv shows/movies/etc on a regular basis to at least be aware that these honorifics exist and that the version of the show they are watching might be missing them.

And that is why I also personally prefer subbing over dubbing, because with subbing I can listen to the original lines and learn to recognise those words/sounds. So even if the translation is slightly inaccurate through no fault of the translator I will still understand the context cues that might have been lost. (But I'm a language nerd, so I can't expect everyone to approach this the same way, obviously)

Spoiler: nerd rambling about linguistics

In Korean, for example, they have 4 different suffixes for verbs/adjectives to convey the level of formality of the situation alone! And from those suffixes you can generally understand a bunch of context cues: whether the speaker is younger or older than the listener, if they're close friends or strangers, if one of them is their teacher/boss/higher up on the social scale, you can tell when someone is being purposefully rude by not using the appropriate suffix... In English you have one word that corresponds to all of those.

And they have honorifics for everything. If you're a male and you're addressing your older brother you use hyung (형), and if you're a female addressing you're older brother you use oppa (오빠). But if you're a male and you have a close older male friend you can also call them hyung, and if you're a female who has a close older male friend/boyfriend or is romantically interested in an older male they also call them oppa as a form of affection... And they have different words that mean the same but for when those genders are reversed.

We can obviously translate oppa to boyfriend in that case, for example, but in Korean oppa hits differently and way deeper than namja chingu (남자친구), which actually means boyfriend. You call someone Oppa and it feels like "this person warms my heart and I feel better just by looking at them". You call them Namja chingu and it feels like you're talking awkwardly about boys with your conservative grandma.

So yeah, my point is fuck Lily Orchard and her ignorant takes on shit she knows nothing about.

 

[thebananaonion]

If it was the pokemon company, then why does the rest of the 4kids catalog have similar censorship?

There's probably a bingo sheet, but here's a general list:

• Name changes
• Jelly donuts and hamburgers
• No cleavage.
• New theme song
• No guns
• Removing all background text, even if it was in English.

The first one is heavily present in most 4kids dubs. Lily's even been using one change.

And here's two examples. YuGiOh's infamous gun scene. And a smattering of text censorship in Sonic X.

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These all have a common denominator, and it's not the pokemon company.

oh as a little fun fact- they removed the text as most dubs would take after the english one. They would just use the english dub's footage for theor own languages (sometimes scripts too). it just made it so it wasn't a hasstle and time waster to remove and re edit every piece of text ninto the native language it was being dubbed into. So not a 4kids being 4kids moment, just made the dubbing and localisation process easier. some of the censorships were not only for english audiences but for other foreign audiences too- just cover as much basis at once.

The irony is, if this so-called Japanese-American woman had voiced her preference for subs over dubs, she wouldn't be Japanese enough for Lily.
Also, "not being Japanese enough" isn't just exclusive to weebs who aren't even Japanese, it's quite infamously a huge problem in Japan itself (mixed-race people in Japan have been known to face job and housing discrimination). Not to mention people in the West saying that anime characters "don't look Japanese enough" even if the character has a Japanese name and the series literally takes place in Japan.
Seriously, since when is anime fans (Lily says "weebs" when describing anime fans as a whole) saying that Asian-Americans "don't look Asian" a huge problem?
Gotta love Lily and her fans trying to trademark complaining about lore and binge-watching.

yeah the whole 'not japanese enough' is a huge racism issue. in the west a lot of japanese people (or lighter skinned asians in general) are just exempted from racism. this may sound good if you dislike racism but it just showcases that 'well your light enough to be seen as white'. an honorary white situation, and guess who also claimed that japanese where honorary whites? our ol' fuhrer Adolf Hitler himself- yeah.
Why do you think its acceptable for twittertards to blackwhash japanese characters but if you DARE racebend a black character they'll flip their shit? Why do you think when people speak about poc they only speak about the ones with the most melanin in their skin, natives and indians (the asian kind)? sure, nobody wants to experience racism but its actually racist also to lighter skinned japanese and see them as honorary whites- if as on the nose as 4chan poltards or unintentionally like blackwashing bakugo artist number 576 them as it implies theyre white.

Lily..... yeah this aint good.

 

[saladimitate]

Lily took advantage of a schizophrenic autistic (+many more diagnoses) person who was abused by multiple people and is extremely poor. They're physically disabled as well, so most of their interactions are online cause they can't leave the house often. Lily knew this, made them become dependent on them for friendship and money, and not only treated them very poorly, but made them draw beastiality and rape porn for her because Patch needed money in order to survive. Lily manipulated a legally disabled person into being their smut machine and then threw them away once they no longer were of use to her.

Watch the whole video before shitting on the victim.

Spoiler: Patch can suck it

"Shitting on the victim", are we just forgetting that Patch came to Lily in the first place because they wanted their Toonkritic story out and about? To get some sympathy points from the Brony fandom?

Yeah no, I have no pity at all for Patch because most of their downfalls were their own damn fault. You can have all those mental disabilities but your actions are still your own. The getting poor thing? Should have thought it through first when you thought you were gonna have a big journalist deal that was clearly a scam. Every time that Patch has done something wrong it's always "I'm physically disabled, I have this and I have this", yeah no, that doesn't go with me.

The beastiality? They could've said no immediately, recorded the calls, get the screenshots, and immediately outed Lily for the degenerate that she was. It would've gotten them a lot more "sympathy" than now because then they would've been known as the person who outed Lily Orchard as a zoophile. Now? It's "he said/she said" deal with the number of screenshots we have because anyone could've commissioned those really and used Lily's name in edit or whatever.
Call it what you want but Patch isn't a victim, they chose to go to Lily and got bitten.

But anyway, back to the actual important stuff of this thread.

 

[BreadLoafGuy69]

Spoiler: Patch can suck it

"Shitting on the victim", are we just forgetting that Patch came to Lily in the first place because they wanted their Toonkritic story out and about? To get some sympathy points from the Brony fandom?

Yeah no, I have no pity at all for Patch because most of their downfalls were their own damn fault. You can have all those mental disabilities but your actions are still your own. The getting poor thing? Should have thought it through first when you thought you were gonna have a big journalist deal that was clearly a scam. Every time that Patch has done something wrong it's always "I'm physically disabled, I have this and I have this", yeah no, that doesn't go with me.

The beastiality? They could've said no immediately, recorded the calls, get the screenshots, and immediately outed Lily for the degenerate that she was. It would've gotten them a lot more "sympathy" than now because then they would've been known as the person who outed Lily Orchard as a zoophile. Now? It's "he said/she said" deal with the number of screenshots we have because anyone could've commissioned those really and used Lily's name in edit or whatever.
Call it what you want but Patch isn't a victim, they chose to go to Lily and got bitten.

But anyway, back to the actual important stuff of this thread.

Spoiler: .

Literally go fuck yourself. I get that Patch can be a lot and over dramatic in ways, but that does not excuse what Lily did to them. This isn’t about Patch being a good person, this is about Lily being a manipulative cunt. Even if you don’t believe the ToonKritic shit, Lily did and saw Patch as a victim of him. From her perspective, she saw a victim of abuse and still took advantage of them. You can make fun of me for caring about Patch and add silly reactions to the post, but you’re fundamentally wrong about the situation. Just because you find it annoying that Patch has these disabilities and talks about them a lot, doesn’t mean they don’t affect how they behave and make them an extremely vulnerable person.

 

[Devil-Man]

Okay, then.
As the title says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCNrsg7teR0

 

[ÁchtunaRoll]

Mikay got her one of these posters for her birthday. It’s small and sweet.

I do wonder how long Mikay can be away from Macey’s before they just cut her hours completely. It’s been a month and a bit now. Hope she doesn’t lose this job, it was her only means of being independent from Lily.