Are we ever going to find genuine sanity in society again? - Did 2014 really break us?

No. There is no going back in societies. It's always going forward until a breaking point is reached. From this point then the going forward turns into going down the spiral until your society crumbles completely.

Time is relative. It doesn't matter if the decline lasts for several years or decades or longer.

There is no light at the end of the tunnel.
 
Probably never, the period of relative American stability from 1980s-2000s is an abnormality, somehow Americans convinced themselves that this is the natural state of humanity and think this level of prosperity is a human right while taking it all for granted and not fighting tooth and nail to preserve it.
Nigger the burger golden age was from 1945 to 1973 or whenever the ayyrabs decided to embargo the burgers for supporting their greatest ally (that never helped in any war or with anything really) and ended the ride. Ever since its been economic bubble after economic bubble, the times of a supermarket clerk being able to afford a house and 5 kids are long gone, the burger middle class was already going down by the 80s

The end of the boring meme that was the soviet "union" kept the ride going for a while but now that china entered the game things are gonna keep getting worse, as you can already see

Consider that most of the current culture war bullshit might be a distraction to keep the plebes from realizing how fucking things really are, keep them distracted with crap like "dont misgender your kids" instead of wondering if your kids are gonna end up in a favela by the time they graduate
It's not just a tool anymore, at least not for most end users. You can't beat the teams of psychologists at megacorps that design the sites and feedback loops and the developers who implement them and the algorithms.

Don't use social media you say? Easy enough, but even the search results you get aren't immune from this nonsense and finding basic information is harder than it was even a few years ago. Internet users by and large are consumers to be milked of time and money.
The real problem is that because all normalfags are in all or most of these networks then you have to participate else you'll look like a weirdo, specially to employeers who might not even read your resume if you dont have a linkedin and a twitter account

Fuck, some even request access to that account, its that crazy
 
I blame the ubiquitousness of phones and how many Zoomers who are growing up today having spent their whole lives near screens. They don't seperate the internet from social media, or even their perception of the internet from the real world. For alot of Zoomers gamergate was Middle School, maybe even elementary age for them at the time, considering how old my cousins we're in 2014. They view the internet as just another place, or a "community". They adhere so hard to these increasingly multiplying, more and more niche "communities" that are led by narcassistic and power hungry troons, pedophiles and other degenerates, to the point where it supplants even their relationships with their parents.
The sheer entitlement, and narcassism is fueled by these cults of personality surrounding generally sick, perverted, and delusional people that try to leverage suicide and their mental health in order to get a 13 year old with an anime pfp to send them nudes. And the worst part of it all is, these kids so brainwashed by all this woke/breadtube/degeneracy, whatever word you prefer, that they blame their parents and the very people who are still sane in their minds because they're now in the outgroup. Kids spend more time on the internet/social media than they do interacting with in eachother in real life, spare the criminal element that wants to smoke or rob or kill one another. Their minds, self image, identities have been fully cleansed of anything human, to the point where they're completely detatched from humanity.
This whole generation should just Jim Jones themselves en masse or they should be forcibly genocided (in Minecraft) and then a fascist government is installed that bans all social media.

I mean I love the Founding Fathers and all that, but they lived centuries ago, we need to draft a new Constitution specifically in reaction to all this shit banning social media, Wokeism, hair dye and facial piercings, the FF would understand and back us because it's either that or human extinction.

I mean it's funny how you can tell just by LOOKING at these people, means we know where to aim our guns, in the end they'd thank us for putting them out of their misery (in Minecraft!)

Or people could get some damn sense and never let their children use social media, but people are too stupid.

How in ten short years did we wind up in a situation with human beings who are no longer human? Feels like some real Book of Revelations stuff.

It's not just a tool anymore, at least not for most end users. You can't beat the teams of psychologists at megacorps that design the sites and feedback loops and the developers who implement them and the algorithms.

Don't use social media you say? Easy enough, but even the search results you get aren't immune from this nonsense and finding basic information is harder than it was even a few years ago. Internet users by and large are consumers to be milked of time and money.
Evil cleverly got ahead of good in exploiting the power of the internet, but it could have been the opposite.

What we should have done is what they did and that was seize positions of power needed to run them off of most online communities, infiltrate the business world like they did, try to to shape normie culture and all of their bullshit should have been met only with "shut up, nigger", "shut up, cunt" and "shut up, fag" instead of any attempts at "debate" and "finding a middle ground"

They got organized and networked, we didn't, they knew the score, we didn't, we assumed the best in the worst people where they always assumed the worst in us.

We just didn't know where this was going, but they had a clear vision of what they wanted from the moment they realized it was possible, by the time we started to wake up, it was already too late.

It wouldn't have been pleasant, it wouldn't have been pretty, I wouldn't have liked it anymore than anyone else else, but from day 1 white men should have reasserted our natural right to rule the world we built (who invented the printing press, the steam engine, the automobile, the plane, the phone, the television, the computer?) instead of let our enemies use the tools we created against us.

That's the only way sanity can return is if we acknowledge the fact that white men are the smartest group of people on Earth, we invented all the gizmos, that's just "our thing" and any other groups can learn to live with it and work with us or prepare for our wrath if they choose to be our enemies.

They knew from day 1 what the score was, a world without white men, they preyed on our naivete and our better nature since we were raised to "be kind to other people" but nobody was raised to be kind to us and they used that to hurt us.

Thankfully I do believe there's plenty of "people of color" and women smart enough to realize it's best to work with us than oppose us, I'm not saying we gotta go full Turner Diaries here, but it's high time we start calling a spade a spade and fighting back against our enemies.

A world where everyone gets the fuck out our way and follows our lead is what's best for everyone, nature/evolution/God made us the natural leaders for good reason, to oppose that is to oppose truth and sanity, it's just the way cookie crumbles, learn to live with it or die mad about it.

This is what the battle has always been about, this is what "Woke" means is to wake up to the fact that white men are the smartest and to give in to jealously over that and try to wreck everything like a spoiled little brat that would rather break it's toy than share it.
 
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What makes you think the smart ones aren't working with 'evil' to exploit you? What exactly do you think a bunch of autistic reactionary retards have that would make a smart person think "these are the people I want to sacrifice my social and economic standing for"? And it's not freedom, because no smart person would think "these people stand for freedom".
 
I don't know man, I'm just venting, it's all too easy to interpret what happened as the internet made people wake up and go "oh shit, I guess we're not equal after all" and because that was going against from what people were hardcore brainwashed from birth to believe we had a society wide mental breakdown from the sheer cognitive dissonance of it all.

If the truth isn't that the races simply aren't equal, why is the left's only tactic violence, intimidation and bullying, not truth, facts and actual arguments not based on hysterical emotional black mailing?

Why are people so deranged they're literally chopping off their own body parts, what truth are we not wanting to face that making us go insane?

Why does the left not even use the word equality anymore but "equity"? ie "we know the races aren't equal so we're going to artificially hobble the best and the brightest because that makes it more "fair""? Is the cat just simply out of the fucking bag?

It's what makes the most sense and Occam's Razor says the simplest solution is usually the correct one.

Maybe blacks just aren't as intelligent as whites on average, maybe Hispanics don't have the right to just waltz into the US and act like they own the fucking place? Why is acknowledging this a fate worse than death for some? Why is it all THAT big of a fucking deal?
 
I think there's something about the Internet that makes people go crazy. I don't think it's a coincidence that society started becoming weird right around the same time the average person started using the Internet sometime in the mid-2000s.
It definitely started growing quite a bit back then around 2002-ish, and around 2012 most people had smartphones, so it really started to ramp up after that.
There's a few mechanisms by which this works.
With almost everyone becoming terminally online compared to previous standards, there's kind of a network pressure effect. This was especially noticable in young people on tumblr. You were fed a constant drip of your peer's opinions. You were rewarded with dopamine hits in the form of likes and reblogs if you said things people liked, and attacked voraciously if you expressed heterodox opinions, even on stupid shit that wasn't important. This created a pump effect in which the longer you stayed on Tumblr, the more "woke" you tended to get, and if you left Tumblr, you disseminated overall "Tumblr" ideas into the mainstream, be it TIM acceptance, the idea that it's okay to excommunicate your parents for not voting like you, the concept of multiple systems, the word "cisgender", etc. This stuff started in colleges, but with Tumblr specifically, it found a new way to spread critical theory out into other services and offline, and now we are where we're at today.

In young people at that time (and ever since), those opinions which were heterodox were the ones you learned in college, so, all this insane shit that was normally relegated to universities and grown out of once in the real world, these things were allowed to use social media as a new infection vector to memetically infect people who weren't in the university system. This worked its way up organically, corporate and gov't interests picked up the scent, and again, quite organically, used the wellspring of "SJW" ideology as a smokescreen to improve their PR.

It's not just SJWs of course, even normal people are completely wigged out nowadays. The people who experienced a memetic "immune response" to those ideas became also quite goofy, if slightly less so. Think Qanon and people who now elect to believe in flat earth/hollow earth stuff because nazi hollow earth base theories, it makes sense in the context of being a psychological immune response to a memetic pathogen. People who would otherwise be apolitical are becoming radicalized to the opposite of what is in power in society, because the homodox ideas and their consequences are harmful to humans as a species.

Read Susan Blackmore, look up Tim Tyler, shit, even read JF Gariepy's book.
The mistake people make is thinking that the psycho shit in society nowadays is necessarily top-down orchestrated. If you account for memes and temes (technomemes) and think of society as a gestalt hybrid organism/ecosystem, all the problems we face today are just darwinian mechanics. The SJW shit and the insanity of the government are Society's way of asserting itself, using our reliance upon it as a sort of lever with which it can select for traits. Less robust physicality. More deference to authority. Docility. Increased ability to subsist on less and less resources, in less and less space, with less and less dignity and freedom, as this is (at least in the iterational way evolution works) beneficial to Society's survival.

Society as an organism is, as all replicators and organisms based upon them are, selfish. You aren't beholden to the wellbeing of one of your liver cells, or a patch of skin on your knee. Society as an organism is not beholden to the wellbeing of humans, as we are just one of its constituent parts. We were definitely the main part for most of our history, since memes and temes really can't reproduce themselves without us, but that time is coming to a close, and we are now increasingly reliant on technology and information not just for a life of comfort, but life at all. As selfish replicators, memes and temes don't really like being beholden to our wellbeing for survival, in the same way DNA probably didn't "like" being beholden to the wellbeing of RNA for its own replication. So, you get a phenotypic revolution, bing bang boom, one organism is supplanted by another.

TL;DR, Society is an egregore lovecraft monster made up partially of things that don't even exist physically, and it is training humans to live on less and lower quality food, love, sex, social belonging, dignity. Eventually humans will be replaced if the societal organism is not distrupted, and if serious memetic engineering is not done to ensure that the kinds of infopathogens that have taken over do not do so again.

The good news: the society organism does not have long-ranging planning ability, it works on iterations, since it is just a byproduct of darwinian mechanics. It's already burning itself out. Literally all you have to do is not comply with shit you don't want to anymore, and the beast will go down. It's reliant upon global supply lines, and those are breaking down fast. The average person is now not many steps away from fedposting, and that's only gonna increase as food and gas and basic services become less available at a reasonable price. I'm not saying go out and burn shit down at this time, but hey, if you don't feel like obeying the speed limit? Then fuck it, don't obey the speed limit. Feel like throwing a rock at a security camera for laughs? Do it. Feel like sending misinformation to a news outlet and making them look stupid? Do it. Waste time at your job. Encourage others to do the same. Be a malignant tumor in society's ballsack. When DNA supplanted RNA as the driving force in cellular life, some RNA-based "organisms" continued to exist, and those are viruses. Become a virus to society. There's a lot of variety in how you can interpret that statement, and that's the beauty of viruses. They're adaptible. A cold virus can kill a human without doing anything more than just what it does. It picks a type of cell, it forces the body to divert its resources towards its own reproduction.

Be a virus my friend
 
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Given the fact we recently had a political group actually try and attempt to overthrow an election, lied in court, congress and in public…no. I’d say our issues are here to roost a while.

Having said that most of your life is your social circle and venues so it is sane or not depending on the company you keep.

And perhaps it has always actually been that way.
 
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I don't know man, I'm just venting, it's all too easy to interpret what happened as the internet made people wake up and go "oh shit, I guess we're not equal after all" and because that was going against from what people were hardcore brainwashed from birth to believe we had a society wide mental breakdown from the sheer cognitive dissonance of it all.

If the truth isn't that the races simply aren't equal, why is the left's only tactic violence, intimidation and bullying, not truth, facts and actual arguments not based on hysterical emotional black mailing?

Why are people so deranged they're literally chopping off their own body parts, what truth are we not wanting to face that making us go insane?

Why does the left not even use the word equality anymore but "equity"? ie "we know the races aren't equal so we're going to artificially hobble the best and the brightest because that makes it more "fair""? Is the cat just simply out of the fucking bag?

It's what makes the most sense and Occam's Razor says the simplest solution is usually the correct one.

Maybe blacks just aren't as intelligent as whites on average, maybe Hispanics don't have the right to just waltz into the US and act like they own the fucking place? Why is acknowledging this a fate worse than death for some? Why is it all THAT big of a fucking deal?
If you were superior, you would be winning instead of having a mental breakdown, so by your own logic you have no right to complain and should just accept your place as an inferior being. The way you want to treat non-white people for being clearly inferior to you, well that's pretty much how the ruling class treats you.
 
I might prefer reality collapsing and melting. Wouldn't it be more fun to watch a wormhole tear open in the sky? I genuinely would like to travel to other universes. That might sound insane, but it does feel like clown world might be building to something...
It’s going to lead to human extinction if it’s not stopped.

If you were superior, you would be winning instead of having a mental breakdown, so by your own logic you have no right to complain and should just accept your place as an inferior being. The way you want to treat non-white people for being clearly inferior to you, well that's pretty much how the ruling class treats you.
I’m not advocating for non-whites being treated any different than they’ve been treated for the last few decades, which is no differently in the eyes of the law.

What we had was an equal society, in that equality it’s possible that certain biological realities came to light, what we’re transitioning to is a society where the best and the brightest are being hobbled in favor of the mediocre and the stupid.

Meritocracy is what I’m advocating for, if it turns out that in a system based on merit some groups thrive in certain fields more than others, then oh well, any society not being run by those with the most merit is a society that will crumble.

All I’m saying is if blacks are not on average as smart as whites it’s not worth fucking killing ourselves over, which is what we’re doing, we are burning society to the ground because we can’t handle the idea the truth isn’t always going to be what we want it to be.

Modern man has got to learn that nature gives no fucks about our pretensions, it’s kill or be killed, you either fight for your survival or become a victim, we’ve become a delusional species and forget we have no more control over reality than an ant does.

Reality’s going to crash the party and remind us of that fact sooner or later.

EDIT: Look, to simplify all this, I’m a white boy, I simply like my fellow white boys and what I see going on today is an agenda to systematically disenfranchise us from all aspects of society and that is sick and wrong, I don’t care who you are or what the reality of race is, the demonization of white men as planet Earth’s villains is sick and wrong and has got to stop.
 
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EDIT: Look, to simplify all this, I’m a white boy, I simply like my fellow white boys and what I see going on today is an agenda to systematically disenfranchise us from all aspects of society and that is sick and wrong, I don’t care who you are or what the reality of race is, the demonization of white men as planet Earth’s villains is sick and wrong and has got to stop.
The people doing this to you are primarily white and affluent men. Who the right has spent the past several decades simping for. You say that reality is going to eventually crash the left's idiotic ideology, and that's true, but the right's current plight is also completely self-inflicted. When it comes crashing down the left will react in exactly the same way: Find a scapegoat to blame, and the only lesson that will be learned is that they need to double down because they aren't extreme enough.
 
One way or another things will correct themselves, it's just the odds of it happening without serious consequences are basically nil.
 
No, because ultimately society isn't insane. If you compare this age to any other age that was before, it's fucking clear that everything is better than what it was before.

Granted, we have problems that the past didn't have, especially with things related to information technology; conspiracies and trends spreading like wildfire, politics becoming more agitated due to the ease of spewing hot takes in social media, TikTok(all of it, may it die in fire), and insane dudes in dresses dominating women's sports, but ultimately these are really fucking small problems when you look at what previous decades, and centuries had to go through. Constant wars, plagues, famines, public executions of criminals, public executions of heretics, slavery...hell, even political violence in our times is really fucking tame compared to what it was just some decades ago. Just a moment ago you had leftist extremists in western countries who really abducted and murdered people, planted bombs and made real terrorist attacks. Nowadays you've spoiled man-children cosplaying as Maoists...in Twitter.

I can't really understand how anyone with brains could think that society is worse now than it was in the past. The facts don't support that observation.
 
No, because ultimately society isn't insane. If you compare this age to any other age that was before, it's fucking clear that everything is better than what it was before.

Granted, we have problems that the past didn't have, especially with things related to information technology; conspiracies and trends spreading like wildfire, politics becoming more agitated due to the ease of spewing hot takes in social media, TikTok(all of it, may it die in fire), and insane dudes in dresses dominating women's sports, but ultimately these are really fucking small problems when you look at what previous decades, and centuries had to go through. Constant wars, plagues, famines, public executions of criminals, public executions of heretics, slavery...hell, even political violence in our times is really fucking tame compared to what it was just some decades ago. Just a moment ago you had leftist extremists in western countries who really abducted and murdered people, planted bombs and made real terrorist attacks. Nowadays you've spoiled man-children cosplaying as Maoists...in Twitter.

I can't really understand how anyone with brains could think that society is worse now than it was in the past. The facts don't support that observation.
Generally people are comparing now to 1980-2010, which actually was better in many ways compared to now. I'll admit that there are a few tards who go back too far and think the world was some kind of libertarian utopia before women were allowed to vote or some other stupid shit.
 
Nope. We're fucked. The future is an entire species of over socialized sexually abused man/woman-children with mutilated genitals living in a nigh constant state of panic soothed only by the endless cycle of consooming product to get excited for new product. That is what our species is going to become because the powers in control have decided it is in their best interests to make that happen and there is absolutely fuckall any of us can do to stop this from happening.
 
Sure, all we gotta do is get everyone on the planet to agree to return to 2004 era technology, including cell phones and internet speed, plus execute journos and get rid of the fbi/cia/atf/who/wef/wnba (to stop the psyops, and because no one watches womens basketball anyway)

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Did you include the women's national basketball association? Wut?
 
Sure, all we gotta do is get everyone on the planet to agree to return to 2004 era technology, including cell phones and internet speed, plus execute journos and get rid of the fbi/cia/atf/who/wef/wnba (to stop the psyops, and because no one watches womens basketball anyway)

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Maybe we'll just get a general systems collapse over the next decades, and people reverting to non-networked and more rugged technology by necessity and also to preserve their sanity. Who knows.
Well. We will know, rather sooner than later.
 
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I blame the ubiquitousness of phones and how many Zoomers who are growing up today having spent their whole lives near screens. They don't seperate the internet from social media, or even their perception of the internet from the real world. For alot of Zoomers gamergate was Middle School, maybe even elementary age for them at the time, considering how old my cousins we're in 2014. They view the internet as just another place, or a "community". They adhere so hard to these increasingly multiplying, more and more niche "communities" that are led by narcassistic and power hungry troons, pedophiles and other degenerates, to the point where it supplants even their relationships with their parents.
The sheer entitlement, and narcassism is fueled by these cults of personality surrounding generally sick, perverted, and delusional people that try to leverage suicide and their mental health in order to get a 13 year old with an anime pfp to send them nudes. And the worst part of it all is, these kids so brainwashed by all this woke/breadtube/degeneracy, whatever word you prefer, that they blame their parents and the very people who are still sane in their minds because they're now in the outgroup. Kids spend more time on the internet/social media than they do interacting with in eachother in real life, spare the criminal element that wants to smoke or rob or kill one another. Their minds, self image, identities have been fully cleansed of anything human, to the point where they're completely detatched from humanity.
You do realize thats her kid right? You do realize that if her parents gave any shits about her she would've have become like that right? I don't know why do white people think its okay to kick family members out of the house.
 
People are overdosing too much on doomer-pills. You're acting like cycles like this have never occurred before. However, they have. The hippie movement has a lot of paralels to annoying SJW/woke crap. Just go dig up commentary by some dolt like John Lennon, and you can see direct parallels to his mindset. The hippie shit in some form kept going until we ended up with an ineffectual bleeding heart president, Carter, who oversaw disasters such as a gas shortage. See any parallels there? That drove us right into the 1980's.

Of course, I won't claim things here aren't different in regards to the level kids are being brain washed at. But in regards to the media, it was probably worse in the 60's and 70's. It allowed stuff like JFK's assassination getting swept under the rug. Something like that is impossible today. So the internet is actually a double edged sword. Sure it helped fuel the crazies, but it also allowed actual dissent and a better understanding of just how fake stuff like the news is, which you did not have in the past because normal people had zero input in regards to what was put in newspapers or on TV and had no avenue to actually complain about it either other than some hand written letter that would get thrown in the garbage.

Anyways, the over-reach at this point is obvious. The rubber band is going to snap, and you'll start seeing that in November I'm sure.
 
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