Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[GenociderSyo]

This article states shes already said shes appealing it:
https://archive.ph/U76ID

And heres her statement she made outside the hospital:

 

[A tree]

This article states shes already said shes appealing it:
https://archive.ph/U76ID

And heres her statement she made outside the hospital:

Can she appeal? Is this not the highest level of court? Not a legalfag. The article seems to imply it but I don't know where you go from the high courts.

 

[The Only Fruit]

Can she appeal? Is this not the highest level of court? Not a legalfag. The article seems to imply it but I don't know where you go from the high courts.

Above the High Court is the Court of Appeal and the Supreme Court. But whether she’ll actually be able to appeal I don’t know.

What really jumped out at me from the ruling posted earlier is that she, Archie, and some other family members have all only been christened since this happened. So all the God stuff is very new and convenient.

 

[GenociderSyo]

What really jumped out at me from the ruling posted earlier is that she, Archie, and some other family members have all only been christened since this happened. So all the God stuff is very new and convenient.

It's feeling more and more performative then actual care from her. Especially after older articles were found of her using Archie to get attention. She has yet to post a thing on facebook.

 

[PotatoSalad4711]

Imaging wearing something with Juicy written across your ass for a hearing about your dead son.


Then again she’s using her stripper name in public, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

 

[Sociopathic Smeghead]

This article states shes already said shes appealing it:
https://archive.ph/U76ID

And heres her statement she made outside the hospital:

What absolute lunacy, it's the blatant arrogance that gets me. She genuinely believes that she knows more than doctors, nurses and the high court and it truly baffles me.

"The whole concept of brain-death is now discredited"

He's dead Hollie, dead dead. He's actively decaying in the hospital bed, taking up invaluable medical equipment that could save a viable person's life, all because you're too selfish to admit that your shitty parenting killed your son, not an "online fad," like you want everyone to believe. She doesn't even have the decency to let him go in peace, just wants to plaster his body all over social media and news outlets for one last bit of attention, before the inevitable Archie charity is set up for more attention, ad nauseam.
At least what we all knew has now been confirmed and I hope that Archie has found peace, away from his awful mother.

I'd be sprinting down the corridor to disconnect life support if I were Archie's doctors, but, given that Hollie plans to appeal the verdict, when can they actually disconnect everything, without contest?

 

[The Only Fruit]

I’m also wondering who wrote that statement for her, since I seriously doubt she has ever had any deep concerns about moral questions and the state of society.

It's feeling more and more performative then actual care from her. Especially after older articles were found of her using Archie to get attention. She has yet to post a thing on facebook.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Looks like they are gonna delay ending life support to give her time to appeal:
https://archive.ph/Om3ir

 

[The Only Fruit]

Looks like they are gonna delay ending life support to give her time to appeal:
https://archive.ph/Om3ir

The thing is it’s not that simple - she can’t just appeal because she doesn’t agree, there have to be some legal or procedural grounds. The hospital said they wouldn’t act immediately in order to allow her to decide whether to appeal, but I guess they’re hoping that the legal team will explain to her that it’s not going to fly. The evidence was pretty overwhelming and I don’t see what a challenge could be based on.

 

[trance_glory]

The full judgment from today has already been published: https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/barts-health-nhs-trust-v-dance-battersbee/ It makes for unpleasant reading in places, probably the worst line being "Some decaying parts of the brain are seen to have dropped down Archie’s spine and to be sitting in the lumbar region of his spinal cord."

It seems like Hollie will be following in Tom Evans' (Alfie Evans' father) footsteps, appealing every decision multiple times and then desperately finding more things to go to court over to slow things down, while riling up the army outside the hospital and getting lots of media coverage. In this case, she already made complaints that the brain scan was not Archie's and the hospital were neglecting him. In the Alfie Evans case, it ended up with a final emergency judgement stating that the hospital were to remove ventilation by a specified time.

The judge also addressed some of the issues with feeding Archie. It seems that he can tolerate small volumes of feed but when the rate goes up, this leads to large amounts of diarrhoea and fluid loss. The hospital are also having to recalibrate his vasopressin hourly to keep his fluid levels balanced as he keeps producing large volumes of dilute urine.

If his fluid levels are no longer able to be properly controlled, he will undergo sudden cardiac arrest. This is a very possible outcome if the family refuse to accept he is dead and will mean they won't be able to say their final goodbyes to Archie in a calm, dignified and peaceful way like they could if they accept today's ruling.

 

[A tree]

The full judgment from today has already been published: https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/barts-health-nhs-trust-v-dance-battersbee/ It makes for unpleasant reading in places, probably the worst line being "Some decaying parts of the brain are seen to have dropped down Archie’s spine and to be sitting in the lumbar region of his spinal cord."

It seems like Hollie will be following in Tom Evans' (Alfie Evans' father) footsteps, appealing every decision multiple times and then desperately finding more things to go to court over to slow things down, while riling up the army outside the hospital and getting lots of media coverage. In this case, she already made complaints that the brain scan was not Archie's and the hospital were neglecting him. In the Alfie Evans case, it ended up with a final emergency judgement stating that the hospital were to remove ventilation by a specified time.

The judge also addressed some of the issues with feeding Archie. It seems that he can tolerate small volumes of feed but when the rate goes up, this leads to large amounts of diarrhoea and fluid loss. The hospital are also having to recalibrate his vasopressin hourly to keep his fluid levels balanced as he keeps producing large volumes of dilute urine.

If his fluid levels are no longer able to be properly controlled, he will undergo sudden cardiac arrest. This is a very possible outcome if the family refuse to accept he is dead and will mean they won't be able to say their final goodbyes to Archie in a calm, dignified and peaceful way like they could if they accept today's ruling.

As I understand it the judge has ruled that he died on the 31st May. I don't see what possible grounds for appeal there can be against death. Are they going to try and get the reaper himself on the stand?

 

[AnOminous]

This is a very possible outcome if the family refuse to accept he is dead and will mean they won't be able to say their final goodbyes to Archie in a calm, dignified and peaceful way like they could if they accept today's ruling.

I don't think "calm," "dignified," or "peaceful" are words in this trashy cunt's vocabulary.

As I understand it the judge has ruled that he died on the 31st May. I don't see what possible grounds for appeal there can be against death. Are they going to try and get the reaper himself on the stand?

They're going to maintain the status quo pending appeal as they would here.

Nature may take the matter out of their hands before then, though.

 

[GenociderSyo]

• There is a Reporting Restrictions Order which prohibits the identification of any of the parties by others in the suit unless voluntarilly done so by the person themselves.
  • This means that naming nurses, etc by the mother is against this order.
• Mother tried to say the unoffical brain steam death test caused a hypotensiion respone by Archie.
  • Doctors confirmed no such incident occured.
• The test was not able to be performed because Archie did not react to the peripheral nerve stimulation tests which were a precursor to the brain stem test.
  • Archie was too dead for a brain stem death test.
• The MRI test was done due to this.
  • The mother was against this because she felt it could cause injury to Archie.
    • "This was opposed by the parents who were concerned about the risks to Archie"
• Archie's parents accused the hospital of using an mri of someone else to prove their case against Archie and they were starving him.
  • "Mr Quintavalle raised two preliminary matters on behalf of the Respondent parents. The first, was their concern that the scans of Archie’s brain and spine produced by Dr P were not images of Archie but of someone else."
  • "The second was the parents’ concern that the hospital was purposefully starving Archie. He informed the Court that he may be instructed to apply for an Emergency Protection Order in both regards."
• Both claims were proven false of course.
  • MRIs are linked to patient via their barcode and personal info.
  • His body is incapable of taking nutrients because the minute feeds hit his stomach he automatically has massive fluid loss due ot diaharea. This is because his brain is incapable of talking to his stomach.
    • "Dr F explained the brain injury is a trigger for diarrhoea because the brain and gastrointestinal system communicate with each other via the enteric nervous system, throughout the gastro-intestinal tract. Archie’s brain injury means that normal signals are not getting to his gut."
• The justice discusses the mothers issues and that she would rather google and listen to her online group then doctors:
  • "The desperation of the parents is perhaps shown by the two preliminary matters raised. Neither complaint had any foundation. "
  • "The two issues raised show clearly the lack of trust the family has in the very experienced clinicians caring for Archie. I noted from the nursing notes found in the medical records that Archie’s mother preferred to search for answers on the internet or from people who had contacted her rather than accepting what the specialist doctors treating Archie and who have care of him on a daily basis were saying. "
• The hospital has to hourly change his vasopressure drugs because his urine output widely varies.
• "The family thought there was a chance Archie would come home again but accepted he may be severely disabled or in a severely vegetative state but this “was better than nothing”. "
• In regards to religious beliefs:
  • Mother states they were not very religious, but that Archie was becoming so. This is why she had him christened.
• In regards to the mother stating that she had proof from a doctor of recoverys the justice stated:
  • "Examples of ‘miracle’ recoveries again were not helpful."
  • As well as this, the doctor had never seen any of Archie's scans.

• Timeline:
  • 7th April
    • Archie admited CT scan shows signs of hypoxic injury to brain.
  • 8th April:
    • EEG shows severe dysfunction caused by injury to the brain but do not show any ongoing seizure activity.
    • CT Scan shows severe hypoxic ischaemic encephalopathy.
    • Angiogram shows worsening of cerebral and cerebellar oedema with increasing tonsillar herniation in devastating hypoxic ischaemic brain injury
    • Signs of diabetes insipidus (“DI”) begin which can result from severe trauma.
      • DI causes very high levels of sodium with severe dehydration due to his kidneys excreting a lot of dilute urine.
  • 9th April:
    • Cerebral Function Monitoring (“CFM”) showed changes consistent with right-sided seizure activity consistent with elevation of blood pressure and heart rate.
  • 10th April:
    • Repeat of CT/Angiogram show increased brain swelling compared to the earlier CT scan and further evidence of injury to the cortex which controls most higher cognitive, sensory and motor functions and cerebellum (movement and co-ordination).
      • "Brain swelling is starting to push thebrain stem against the base of the skull"
  • 11th April:
    • Second opinion sought states that Brain Steam Death Test should be administered, but that regardless of outcome Archie's should be stopped.
      • "The extent of brain injury is incompatible with any meaningful recovery”."
  • 14th April:
    • Third opinion sought:
      • “Devastating hypoxic brain injury caused by the hanging. His prognosis is very poor and he is unfortunately unlikely to survive”.
      • Advised DNR and pallative care.
    • EEG for 30 minutes showed no activity at all.
    • Archie's mother requests at least one more month to see if Archie recovers.
  • 15th April:
    • MRI and MRA are done showing further deterioration.
      • “Severe hypoxic-ischaemic injury (injury caused by lack of blood and oxygen supply) affecting the entire brain – cortex, midbrain, brain stem and cerebellum. There is associated swelling of the entire brain and the cerebellar tonsils have now been pushed through the foramen magnum compressing the brain stem. On the MRA no blood flow can be detected within any of the intracranial blood vessels. This represents a further deterioration compared to his earlier CT scans."
      • The whole of the brain showed evidence of extreme oxygen starvation. The brain had coned which destroys the brain stem and there was a lack of blood flow to the brain. This was stated to be the point of no return for brain steam recovery.
    • Second opinion sought:
      • Confirms results of first test and states once again that invasive ventilation should be stopped that there is no hope for recovery.
  • 20th April:
    • EEG performed with mother's request of boxing audio and music Archive loved.
      • No response and no cortical activty were seen.
  • 6th May:
    • Neurological Examination:
      • "It is even clearer that Archie has suffered a very severe and, in my opinion, irrecoverable brain injury and is very likely to be brain dead. Even should he prove to have some residual brain stem function, his prognosis remains very poor and he is very likely to remain in a comatose or vegetative state and dependent on mechanical ventilation for the rest of his life”"
  • 9th May:
    • Second Opinion:
      • Supports all said before and that at his hospital they would have done the brain stem test right away.
    • Informal Brain Stem Death Test:
      • This involves reflexes and a two minute Aponea Test.
        • Archie was entirely unresponsive.
      • Dr stated Archie was brain dead.
  • 11th May:
    • Angiogram showed complete lack of flow in Archie's Brain.
  • 16th May:
    • Two indpendent doctors performed Peripheral Nerve Stimulation Tests on Archie.
      • The test failed and if this test is failed there cannot even be a brain steam death test.
  • 25th May:
    • Information was given to the justice stating that Archie was brain dead.
      • "Taking into account the mechanism of injury,Archie’s unresponsive condition and the severe coning seen on the MRI scans of 15th April 2022, in the view of the professionals in the paediatric intensive care specialism, the nursing staff, neurology, neuroradiology and endocrinology it was likely that Archie’s brain stem had died between 8th and 26th April 2022."
  • 31st May:
    • Final MRI performed:
      • Brain shrinkage and necrosis was seen.
        • "The severe coning seen on 15th April 2022 had not changed. The cerebellar tonsils which had been squashed together with the lower part of the brain stem and had herniated through the bottom of the skull remained but there were signs now of necrosis."
        • Severe damange to the Thallmus.
        • The medulla had shrunken and was showing necrosis.
      • No blood flow in any part of the brain.
      • No spinal injury which is what Archie's mother was using as her reasoning for not allowing certain testing.
        • Thoracic and Lumbar Spinal Cord showed necrosis. As well as debris from necrosis of other areas of spine.
      • "He said somewhere between 10 and 20% of the brain stem had undergone necrosis but that damage to the brain stem was over 50%. The necrosis was caused by the squashing of the brain stem and the coning into the top of the spinal cord."
      • "The sort of images he was seeing were ones he usually saw at perimortem or postmortem"
  • 4th June:
    • Doctor determines that the movements made by Archie that the mother stated happened were unreplicable. That there was no reason to beleive they had actually occured.
      • The mother was caught in several lies:
        • Mother stated he cried during a procedure, problem is the procedure wasnt real and he wasnt crying.
          • "I remembered too, the hospital evidence that the ventilator tube is never replacedand therefore would not produce the pain mentioned by the family as possibly causing a tear. I heard too that Archie’s pupils are examined by a pupilometer several times a day and he has to be given eye drops four times a day to prevent his eyes from drying out when the eyelids are lifted and drops put in. There has not been a change in the dilation of fixation of his pupils for many weeks."
        • Grasping Hand:
          • The video shows that she was using the fact his hands had contracted into c shape that should could manipulate to seem like he was grasping and moving his hands voluntarilly.

• Judge's Conclusions
  • Is it probable that Archie is brain stem dead? YES
    • "In my judgment, the lack of the test in Archie’s case caused as it is by his very severe brain damage, does not prevent me from anxiously considering the abundant clinical evidence in these proceedings and coming to a conclusion as to whether I can find on the balance of probabilities that Archie is brain stem dead."
  • Declaration:
    • "I find that Archie died at noon on 31st May 2022, which was shortly after the MRI scans taken that day. I find that irreversible cessation of brain stem function has been conclusively established."
    • "I give permission to the medical professionals at the Royal London Hospital (1) to cease to ventilate mechanically Archie Battersbee; (2) to extubate Archie Battersbee; (3) to cease the administration of medication to Archie Battersbee and (4) not to attempt any cardio or pulmonary resuscitation on Archie Battersbee when cardiac output ceases or respiratory effort ceases.
  • Best Interests:
    • "I must ask myself what Archie’s view might be of the treatment as it is being administered to him today. He is 12 and although he told his mother he would prefer to be on a life support machine rather than dead,"
      that was not an opinion he had come to based on the reality of the medical intervention he receives now and the likely outcome."
    • "The tragedy of the situation is that Archie’s life is unrecognisable compared to the one he lived just nine weeks ago. He cannot eat the food or drink he would have enjoyed. When thinking theoretically about medical support in these
      circumstances, I would not have expected Archie to take into account the many tube and line supports that have to be attached to his body, bringing nutrients in and taking his bodily products away. In terms of not wanting to leave his
      mother, tragically Archie does not know his mother is there and that she has spent the last eight weeks at his bedside when she was not at court.
    • "It is accepted by all that Archie does not feel pain, I do consider, however, that the many medical procedures which are keeping his body functioning are a burden on him. I find that Archie is suffering physical harm from his condition and the extensive medical treatment he is receiving."

 

[A tree]

There's some real between the lines shade being thrown on Hollies shit in that report. She just makes shit up and expects doctors and courts to go along with it. What a fantasist.

 

[Cockroach Milk]

The more I read the sicker I feel. How could you possibly see your child, literally rotting from the inside out, and think there is ANY appropriate action other than letting him go?

It's cruel to herself, to the experienced medical team trying to Frankenstein this corpse into 'surviving', to everyone who knew Archie, and most importantly, to Archie himself.

Forgive me for the insensitive comparison, but God, it's like that 'Pumpkin Eater' game come to life, complete with mentally fucked mothers and human decomposition.

 

[brooky]

What really jumped out at me from the ruling posted earlier is that she, Archie, and some other family members have all only been christened since this happened. So all the God stuff is very new and coconvenient.

No shade to anyone who turns to religion after a family tragedy, but in this particular case?

Red fucking flags.

 

[A tree]

This article states shes already said shes appealing it:
https://archive.ph/U76ID

And heres her statement she made outside the hospital:

She's got a real room temperature IQ. She scares me a bit. Lights on nobody's home.

The more I read the sicker I feel. How could you possibly see your child, literally rotting from the inside out, and think there is ANY appropriate action other than letting him go?

It's cruel to herself, to the experienced medical team trying to Frankenstein this corpse into 'surviving', to everyone who knew Archie, and most importantly, to Archie himself.

Forgive me for the insensitive comparison, but God, it's like that 'Pumpkin Eater' game come to life, complete with mentally fucked mothers and human decomposition.

I think she might actually be a sociopath. This is ASPD. This is zero degrees of empathy, violence, delusional, narcissistic and just fucking sick.

 

[Kelly's Yeeted Legs]

This article states shes already said shes appealing it:
https://archive.ph/U76ID

And heres her statement she made outside the hospital:

It's a bloody wonder she hasn't played the trans card so far. Archie identifies as alive, full stop. We must accept and honor that, and provide all necessary medical and surgical treatment so this stunning and brave corpse can appear animate.

 

[A tree]

Meanwhile....on the purple wave....Never let an utterly bleak human tragedy unfolding before the eyes of a horrified nation stop you from thirst trapping, ladies

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

Tophat me but for fuck sakes I'd like to shake or strangle this woman. No amount of tits can fix this.