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I suspect he found one of the other pieces of evidence first, because I don't know how you could find that account otherwise lol. People already knew her last name thanks to the blue hair photo and the fact that she lived in Nantucket.

The chubby photo is from before those other ones.

Because that's the oldest photo we have of her. It's from when she was in early highschool.

Does my post imply that people can't change? In fact I spent the last two lines of the section before the break talking about how she had changed to become thinner.
No, it just straight up isn't her. It's heavily implied from the streams and nigh confirmed with verified photos that puberty basically didn't happen to her. She has the voice, face, and body type of child. She's a rectangle with sticks for arms and legs. Simple weight loss doesn't change a body type that much.
Hell the chubby photo doesn't even look like a squeaky midget, and we know for a fact Gura is at the extreme end of petite. Bordering on lanky midget.
 
Good effort animation of Wosemi trying to updog us:

I think I'm sleeping on Rosemi that was adorable levels of pon and memelord Eliras reaction was icing on the cake
Yeah, given we have actual confirmed photos now this is 100% not her. Nothing here matches what's been discovered and is probably why Iketog doesn't have it on their Gura page. Definitely tangentially related at best.


1. It's confirmed her Birthday is June 17, 1998. She's turning 24. I believe she's either the second youngest or youngest in EN. Her and Mumei were both born in 1998.
2. This is Gura we're talking about. She would definitely play something like Conker because that the kind of gremlin she is.
Yeah I don't believe its her however the age makes sense and hell she could have played Conkers live and reloaded
 
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I know people talked about the debut of VT Rainbow already when they were posted here 30 pages ago but I only just saw them today. I had my guesses from just seeing the line up and I am so happy I was right with basically all of it.

6 characters made up of a femboy looking twink and 5 super busty girls. I guessed 4 were going to be transwomen, turns out only 3 were. The two biological females are both genderfluid and pansexuals. One of the transwomen uses a terrible voice changer.

The Marina person in charge is just such a coomer. Their alerts for donos are all just "nut" buttons popping up or them literally getting bukkaked in the face. It's all really fucking awkward sexual stuff in their interactions. Their entire shtick in the stream just seems to be shouting "Be gay" or "We're super gay" anytime the conversation dries up. Or when they very randomly started ranting about an anime convention not requiring COVID testing and how it was putting people in danger, because of course they have to hit all the lefty points immediately.

I really don't think they'll be a funny group to laugh at. It doesn't even seem like they're well organised at all. It's just a bunch of weirdoes forced together because "we gay" is apparently enough, they can't even decide during their stream if they are all meant to be 18+ for streaming or if their community accepts under 18s... and they don't really have an answer. That's the only potentially fun drama they might have, their Discord, where they aren't sure if they are NSFW or SFW. This is really gonna be odd with the TFMJonny dude in it, who has a million sub Youtube account where he makes videos very clearly targeted at children... but now he's part of a Vtuber group where they talk about sitting on eachother's faces and sticking dicks in eachother's mouths randomly.

I hope that ages poorly and they are a funny trainwreck, but at the minute they just seem to be "lol we gay, we might stream together occasionally" which is a shitty gimmick.
Noel and Choco? Seriously? The rest I can understand because they had their moments, but these two? They're as far from menhera as it get. Choco's also bonafide hag. And being menhera =/= bad people. Marine is definitely in a territory of Menhera, but she also do her best to support her friend and all that.
I know next to nothing about Choco but Noel as Canan does seem a bit odd. Talking about how she doesn't want to show her face and is "building up" to showing her face because she's unhappy with her face. Randomly dropping that in high school everyone called her "Snape" because of her nose and all of her selfies include her face but literally have a sticker over her nose.

I think that's where people get it from because it is kinda weird to keep going on about that stuff, but admittedly, that seems all the clippers really want to clip from her. It's either talking about her face reveal or her tits.

Either that or because her and Matsuri seem to be good friends iRL.
 
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Noel and Choco? Seriously? The rest I can understand because they had their moments, but these two? They're as far from menhera as it get. Choco's also bonafide hag. And being menhera =/= bad people. Marine is definitely in a territory of Menhera, but she also do her best to support her friend and all that.

I guess it depends on your definition of menhera, but Noel has the infamous (attempted) breaking her keyboard over her knee incident. She also had a bit of a crying session on her roommate's birthday stream recently about loneliness/boyfriends and needing to get laid that prompted her to restart the stream and kill the archive of the bad parts.

Choco's issues are definitely a bit more subtle, but she has 18 hour depressive hibernations pretty often. Her actively wanting to get married but live separately from her husband also strikes me as a bit odd.

Could all just be bullshit they say on camera as well, though, so who really knows in the end?
 
Wouldn't be surprised if smaller Twitch based Vtubers who know each other circulate a list of undesirables to ban if they show up in their chat. Would explain why Takodachi is banned in 109 Vtuber channels (but it's clearly not his fault)
A Takodachi will talk your ear off about how he's banned from 109 channels... but never tell you why.
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If he hates anime so much, why did he give me this avatar? Null-senpai is just tsundere for anime.
 
Yeah, given we have actual confirmed photos now this is 100% not her. Nothing here matches what's been discovered and is probably why Iketog doesn't have it on their Gura page. Definitely tangentially related at best.
Brother I am sorry but it is her, just when she was younger and 2x heftier than the later photos. Gura/Senzawa had mentioned that she had access to some instruments growing up, specifically the drums. The account believed to be her dad showcases that he does more than a few gigs and he posts almost exclusively images of himself on the sticks. Not only that, but we know for a fact that her name is 'Sammie Howard' because one of her VA gigs listed her as Sena Howard, and one of her interactions with a fan on one of her BBTV accounts asked her why she called herself Senna if her name was Sammie (or something like that). Then you can go and see that the father has a friend that is also in the music business, and she has a youtube account that his subbed to both the father's youtube account and BBTV. Then people found her younger brother's facebook which was mutual friends with both the dad and the 'sen leaf' facebook accounts, and the 'sen' facebook had the name Sammie Dillion in the url. It was also listed in the dad's facebook account as his daughter.

All of this is to prove that the picture that came from the father's account was indeed her, also because she had the exact same phone case that the BBTV facebook posted about. Do you really believe that many things lining up are just coincidences? We haven't even gotten into the animal shelter thing, or that they both just so happened to live in Nantucket at the same time.

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Another thing I keep seeing is that you mentioned the puberty thing. Well, let me kind of use Kson and Matsuri as an example of why that point doesn't really matter in regards to the chubby image. Kson has always had a respectable figure imo, not a huge ass and no giant tits, but just nice and admirable. However, she mentioned a while ago that both her T and A were disappearing because she was losing weight. She didn't even get that much skinnier in her stomach area iirc, but her chest was noticeably smaller during her irl streams (I couldn't tell the difference in her ass though). It's not a stretch to imagine that Gura losing quite a bit of poundage shrank everything else too. Matsuri went through the exact same thing. She was a very hefty girl but then slimmed down and lost most of her chest as well.
 
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The exact age of BUTTON has yet to be confirmed but it has been heavily implied she's either in her mid-30s to early 40s.
Korone is currently 36 or 37. You can never go wrong with hags.

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There's something funny when the girls goes with the VTuber avatar that deliberately less attractive than the IRL self. Just saying.
 
Brother I am sorry but it is her, just when she was younger and 2x heftier than the later photos. Gura/Senzawa had mentioned that she had access to some instruments growing up, specifically the drums. The account believed to be her dad showcases that he does more than a few gigs and he posts almost exclusively images of himself on the sticks. Not only that, but we know for a fact that her name is 'Sammie Howard' because one of her VA gigs listed her as Sena Howard, and one of her interactions with a fan on one of her BBTV accounts asked her why she called herself Senna if her name was Sammie (or something like that). Then you can go and see that the father has a friend that is also in the music business, and she has a youtube account that his subbed to both the father's youtube account and BBTV. Then people found her younger brother's facebook which was mutual friends with both the dad and the 'sen leaf' facebook accounts, and the 'sen' facebook had the name Sammie Dillion in the url. It was also listed in the dad's facebook account as his daughter.

All of this is to prove that the picture that came from the father's account was indeed her, also because she had the exact same phone case that the BBTV facebook posted about. Do you really believe that many things lining up are just coincidences? We haven't even gotten into the animal shelter thing, or that they both just so happened to live in Nantucket at the same time.
All of that does not explain how that person in the picture is her

No matter how you slice it

No matter how much weight you lose

That body cannot "grow" into someone who is commonly mistaken for a LITERAL sassy lost child so to speak

I don't buy it for one second unless Gura lies about those incidents which i guess is possible but that body also doesn't look anything like she sounds either so idk
 
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Brother I am sorry but it is her, just when she was younger and 2x heftier than the later photos. Gura/Senzawa had mentioned that she had access to some instruments growing up, specifically the drums. The account believed to be her dad showcases that he does more than a few gigs and he posts almost exclusively images of himself on the sticks. Not only that, but we know for a fact that her name is 'Sammie Howard' because one of her VA gigs listed her as Sena Howard, and one of her interactions with a fan on one of her BBTV accounts asked her why she called herself Senna if her name was Sammie (or something like that). Then you can go and see that the father has a friend that is also in the music business, and she has a youtube account that his subbed to both the father's youtube account and BBTV. Then people found her younger brother's facebook which was mutual friends with both the dad and the 'sen leaf' facebook accounts, and the 'sen' facebook had the name Sammie Dillion in the url. It was also listed in the dad's facebook account as his daughter.

All of this is to prove that the picture that came from the father's account was indeed her, also because she had the exact same phone case that the BBTV facebook posted about. Do you really believe that many things lining up are just coincidences? We haven't even gotten into the animal shelter thing, or that they both just so happened to live in Nantucket at the same time.
It's not her. Doesn't even have the PS2 polygon nose, and Gura is a confirmed cutting board with next to no curves at all. We don't care where the phot came from, only that it clearly, objectively, does not match on any level what we do know for a fact. Weight loss doesn't change your skeletal structure for crying out loud. Gura doesn't have hips for crying out loud.
 
6 characters made up of a femboy looking twink and 5 super busty girls. I guessed 4 were going to be transwomen, turns out only 3 were. The two biological females are both genderfluid and pansexuals. One of the transwomen uses a terrible voice changer.

The Marina person in charge is just such a coomer. Their alerts for donos are all just "nut" buttons popping up or them literally getting bukkaked in the face. It's all really fucking awkward sexual stuff in their interactions. Their entire shtick in the stream just seems to be shouting "Be gay" or "We're super gay" anytime the conversation dries up. Or when they very randomly started ranting about an anime convention not requiring COVID testing and how it was putting people in danger, because of course they have to hit all the lefty points immediately.
Why does it feel so surprisingly common for these sorta people to also be total coomers? I'm perfectly okay with both LGBT people and coomers, it's just that hearing about a hyper coomer trans feels strange, as if they're the kind of degen menhera that only wants to transition because "having boobie nice lol".
 
Why does it feel so surprisingly common for these sorta people to also be total coomers? I'm perfectly okay with both LGBT people and coomers, it's just that hearing about a hyper coomer trans feels strange, as if they're the kind of degen menhera that only wants to transition because "having boobie nice lol".
Transgender is the highest form of misogny. They assume being a woman will fix their problems in life and become one, only to realize they're still creepy, hypersexual failures.
 
Why does it feel so surprisingly common for these sorta people to also be total coomers? I'm perfectly okay with both LGBT people and coomers, it's just that hearing about a hyper coomer trans feels strange, as if they're the kind of degen menhera that only wants to transition because "having boobie nice lol".
See, that's how it feels. They introduced themselves as a "Lesbian. A translesbian." They were the most obvious one to guess even before I heard their voice that they'd just be a transbian. Their entire shtick is just "lol tits. lol cum. lol sitting on your face."

It's like fucking whiplash when they go suddenly from that to "And, just so you know guys, we're building a community around this, including helpful resources that we can all contribute to for helping other LGBT members."

Their Discord could be potentially gold for the farms. I had Discord for all of 5 minutes before deleting it so there's no way I'd join another one but I'm sure it'd just be funny with their odd idea of trying to both be a support group that allows all ages... and also a coomer paradise where everytime they get a fucking follow all you hear is "NUT! NUT! NUT! NUT! NUT!" There will definitely be Keffals-esque catboy grooming if they don't figure out what they want to do, especially if they bring in that wolf guy's children audience from Youtube lol

Also, here's a clip of my hag for everyone to avoid talking about a shark:
 
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Another thing I keep seeing is that you mentioned the puberty thing. Well, let me kind of use Kson and Matsuri as an example of why that point doesn't really matter in regards to the chubby image. Kson has always had a respectable figure imo, not a huge ass and no giant tits, but just nice and admirable. However, she mentioned a while ago that both her T and A were disappearing because she was losing weight. She didn't even get that much skinnier in her stomach area iirc, but her chest was noticeably smaller during her irl streams (I couldn't tell the difference in her ass though). It's not a stretch to imagine that Gura losing quite a bit of poundage shrank everything else too. Matsuri went through the exact same thing. She was a very hefty girl but then slimmed down and lost most of her chest as well.
Breast size is largely genetic. They can be effected by weight loss/gain, but the effect is pretty marginal compared to other parts of the body. What weight loss/gain doesn't change is the skeletal structure. We can clearly see in confirmed Gura photos that she has NO curves to speak of. None. If that chubby photo was real, weight loss would emphasize her hips and waist more, not make them completely non-existent. Her breast would also still exist to an extent, not fade into nothingness. REMIND YOU THAT SHE'S 17 HERE. chrome_screenshot_1652802267674.png
 
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