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If you were not certain that a lot of executives are basically idiots, then probably you are now - and they've always been idiots, going back to the days when the network objected to Jay Ward having Rocky and Bullwinkle cooked in a pot because it was "cannibalism."
I remember listening to apodcast with the art director from Wander over Yonder - the team once got a executive note saying that three bubbles, in a scene containing bubbles, were drawn/animated too closely and could be seen as the Mickey Mouse silhouette, thus needs to be changed. Apparently that would be cross-promotion and Disney didn't allow that then.

TBH the notes are really entertaining to me (it almost makes up for how pissed I am over the canceled Popeye movie), however, when you are balls deep in a production and are pressed for time, dealing with shit like this must be fucking horrible.
I how they use the term running, like they run the word crud in a virtual simulation to calculate possible future outcomes or sth.
 
I remember listening to apodcast with the art director from Wander over Yonder - the team once got a executive note saying that three bubbles, in a scene containing bubbles, were drawn/animated too closely and could be seen as the Mickey Mouse silhouette, thus needs to be changed. Apparently that would be cross-promotion and Disney didn't allow that then.
Disney has a thing about Mickey that way. All the way back in Bonkers he was an important part of one of the episodes, and they couldn't show him or even directly name him. I have no idea why.
 
EDIT: On the Tartakovsky topic, he was asked about his Popeye movie at Annecy. His response: "Ce film ne verra jamais le jour!" - that is, it's not happening anymore.
Damn.:heart-empty: That means he snatched that victory from the jaws of defeat.
Double damn that the last bit of Popeye media we got was this.
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In case you don't want to watch this, here's some of the highlights of Disney's S&P board genius:

"Please revise 'poopface' as it comes across as a replacement for 'shitface.'"

"It has come to our attention that 'hoo-ha' is a slang term for vagina, please revise."

"Please revise 'Chub Pup' on t-shirt- 'Chub' has a sexual connotation"

"Please replace 'Jeez' as the term is considered an abbreviation of Jesus."

"Please revise Soos' line about dressing as a giant teddy bear. It may call to mind the people who dress up as stuffed animals as a 'furry' fetish."

"Please revise Wendy's response 'Aw crud-dang!' as 'crud' has an inappropriate slang definition."

"Please revise 'Holy Christmas!' as it could be perceived as religiously offensive."

If you were not certain that a lot of executives are basically idiots, then probably you are now - and they've always been idiots, going back to the days when the network objected to Jay Ward having Rocky and Bullwinkle cooked in a pot because it was "cannibalism."
They're the idiots who handle all the money though.

What harm does showing this do anyway? No shit the disney censors are anal-retentive tightwads. It's fucking Disney. Hirsch sounds buttmad he couldn't have his name on the progressive history toilet paper roll with his buddies.
 
They're the idiots who handle all the money though.

What harm does showing this do anyway? No shit the disney censors are anal-retentive tightwads. It's fucking Disney. Hirsch sounds buttmad he couldn't have his name on the progressive history toilet paper roll with his buddies.
Practically every creator has stories like this, though. Stories about the S&P board taking offense over something no one would ever get mad at.

We lost another great one...
https://creative-hiphop.com/everett-peck/


Everett Peck
1950-2022
Oh fuck no. We lost one of the greats, one of the real greats. A fine artist, a fine character designer on those 90s shows from Sony... Pour one out for him, for we shall not see his like again.
 
Kizai Moto: Generation Fire-An African sci fi anthology series. Could be cool.
WHAT?! DISNEY ACTUALLY PUTTING THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS AND MAKING AN AFRICAN-CENTRIC ANIMATED SERIES?
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AND MOST OF THE ANTHOLOGY PIECES ACTUALLY LOOK DECENT?! This sounds too good to be true.....consider me actually cautiously optimistic for this one.
We lost another great one...
https://creative-hiphop.com/everett-peck/


Everett Peck
1950-2022
Oh fuck no. We lost one of the greats, one of the real greats. A fine artist, a fine character designer on those 90s shows from Sony... Pour one out for him, for we shall not see his like again.
Damn, he created Duckman and he worked on the Men in Black and Godzilla animated series? Rest well, you absolute legend. :semperfidelis:
 
We lost another great one...
https://creative-hiphop.com/everett-peck/


Everett Peck
1950-2022


I have no words. Duckman was his baby, and even at its best, it is one of the more influential cartoons to come out of the USA Network and Comedy Central.

I even posted on the RIP Thread that this was posted on his Instagram as the last photo ever seen from his animation studio:

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He really lived the life of a storied animator that paid tribute to those who came before him. Not much, though, you can say about current day animation — with the exception of maybe Genndy Tartakovsky and a couple of personal favorites that have lasted since the late 80’s and 90’s.
 
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Gravity falls is ten years old and Alex is still milking his hatred for Disney. Not that it's completely unjustified but he always come off as somewhat egocentric.
On one hand, it is absurd how some of these can be misconstrued as offensive and shows executives being executives. On the other hand, some of these had no chance of being on any kids network and Alex comes off as a whiny asshat in a lot of these posts, especially where he goes full r/atheism.

It really says something when even other animators gently chided him on the video; imagine spending the tenth anniversary of your show doing this.
We lost another great one...
https://creative-hiphop.com/everett-peck/


Everett Peck
1950-2022
You’re kidding me; we lost Everett Peck and Tim Sale on the same week? Why does 2022 hate us?
 
Said while there's a pride rainbow on his pfp. Piss off and let a real artist rest in peace you washed up hack.
Tim Sale on the same week?
Tim sale died? The artist behind the long Halloween? Damn so many great people lost and gone forever. I feel like grim needs to cool it for a while

Sorry I just... Thought we could use something to break up the somber tension, laugh and the world laughs with you and all that jazz.
 
Really I wasn't aware of that. Probably because it's not in the show at all. I mean none of the three ended up with anyone by the end. How much I bet you the creator only said that because twitter fags were constantly complaining to him about how progressive Owl House was compare to his show. So he just said that to please them because their's no evidence of her being bi in the show itself.
I'm of the mind that Owl House only went down the progressive route because Dana dumbass was told her show was getting cut short because it wasn't bringing in numbers Disney wants. Rather than fix the show to be more appealing to kids and families without convoluted backstory and wold building she thought "I know I'll make the girl who was an outright bully if not a psychopath to my main character a love interest! And for a bouns I'll make two characters "non binary " that's what my audience wants right? "

No Dana your audience does NOT consist of over grown children on social media, it consists of ACTUAL children, their families and maybe a small bit of adults into animation. Less so are ones who care way too much if your characters are banging each other.
 
What harm does showing this do anyway? No shit the disney censors are anal-retentive tightwads. It's fucking Disney. Hirsch sounds buttmad he couldn't have his name on the progressive history toilet paper roll with his buddies.
Alex so close to being self aware...yet so far. For context, this was one of his replies:
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We lost another great one...
https://creative-hiphop.com/everett-peck/


Everett Peck
1950-2022
May he rest in peace. Duckman was amazing. So was the MIB series.
It really says something when even other animators gently chided him on the video; imagine spending the tenth anniversary of your show doing this.
His (ex-)girlfriend Dana Terrace is also trying to milk her "feud" with Disney ("I'm a showrunner trying to include ellgeebeetee rep in my cartoon for children but the MAN is keeping me down!! Fight the power!! I'm tired of making Disney look good with my overpriced Little Witch Academia ripoff cartoon!!") for the past few years now, so Alex has been following suit because hating Disney is the "cool" thing now on both sides of the aisle.

I'm glad Gravity Falls existed before acting like this (openly) became the norm. It's a time capsule of the times before cartoon creators became obnoxiously mouthy and political for no reason whatsoever.
 
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