Animal Breeding Horror Show - Featuring trendy bulldogs, exotic bullies and the dog cum cartel

[Kelly's Yeeted Legs]

Thing is, cats are uniquely adaptable, enough so that they basically domesticated themselves. They can and do live fulfilling lives without being exposed to cars, predators and disease, and in turn without murdering songbirds for the sheer hell of it.

It takes a bit of effort to understand and meet a cat's needs. They are social, intelligent animals with plenty of tolerance for odd living conditions or they wouldn't have moved in with us in the first place.

I won't sperg about how great cats are -- if you grok them you already know that.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

If you dare want a small dog, tough shit, sounds like you care more about what you want than what the dog wants.

Wouldn't a policy like this result in people getting dogs that are unsuitable for them? That sounds like a bad time for both the owner and the dog.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

There's some rich folks out by me that are constantly offering "100% pure! AKC eligible!" Aussie pups for sale at exorbitant prices. They seemed legitimate enough, but I've never purchased a dog from them so I wouldn't know firsthand. Suddenly, they stopped, and when I asked around town about it (figuring they were moving or something), I was told by a few different people that they had two "bad litters" that they had to euthanize, and basically lost all their business.

When I asked what constitutes a "bad litter," I was thinking it was just low-quality puppies (and wondering why they didn't just sell them cheaper). But I was told from two different sources that it was much, much worse -- the poor creatures were completely deaf, and all of them were blind (one of them told me "no eyes at all"), with hip deformities. I don't know if it was a case of inbreeding, or intentionally breeding for double-merle (I'm not sure what that causes but I've always heard that it's bad), or just incompatible genes, but money is on one of the former options.

Sounds like they were breeding double merles, which is a mistake so basic it's up there with some guy going around town pretending he is a plumber while not knowing about male and female fittings. Eye problems are very common in double merles along with deafness. But greedy stupid breeders will sometimes roll the dice with two merles to try to guarantee a big pay day because people will generally pay a couple hundred more for a merle than other patterns. It's doubly stupid because breeding two merles doesn't even guarantee getting spotty dogs, they just think it does because they are pig ignorant and can't draw a Punnett square.

 

[Marche]

Idiots will fight tooth and nail for the right to scrape their cat off the road. lf you can't be arsed to give your kitty the mental stimulation it needs without turning it loose, maybe you should reconsider a pet cat. Get some cat furniture, toys, and spend some time playing with it every day. I let mine hunt bugs that get trapped in the house, you can even make cat kongs or a fenced catio enclosure.

I fucking love cats but they're miniature terrorists who kill for fun, and what you see on your porch is a tiny fraction of their body count. Current toll is something like 2.4 billion birds killed annually in the US alone and 33 species extinct globally (that we know of) due to cat predation.

Spoiler: Aussie feral cat stomach contents (nasty)

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Cats especially in countries like Australia are not native, Australia isnt actually the whole EVERY ANIMAL WILL KILL YOU meme country. Most our wildlife are herbivore/Mammals and our predators are mostly snakes or Dingoes which are quite rare in a vast majority of the country but especially cities. This is why Rabbits Foxes and Cats have destroyed our ecosystem, they don't have predators.

Arguing with people who say its ok to let their cats outside is almost as amusing to me as arguing with a Pitbull defender. One guy who is in group I'm in spent so long defending letting his cat outside and a week later his cat was hit by a car, He does not like me anymore.

 

[Questionable Ceviche]

Yeah I did not expect to see this today. Had been following them for several years now. Always enjoyed the information they provided on the foxes. Had no idea this was going on in the background. Guess it shouldn't surprise me though if she is flaunting them all over YouTube and other social media. I never agreed with the people they gave the foxes to either. If you look at some of the enclosures the "new families" have for the foxes they "adopt" from her, they are super tiny, no yard, etc.

She constantly pushes for merch sales and donations on her videos too. I almost bought a shirt in support, but super glad I did not.

I wonder if there was any bullshit going on too with Valentine that had Gingival Hyperplasia. I believe they ended up having to put it down (posted video below), but after reading all of these messages, it probably just cost her too much and was too much of an inconvenience. I cant think of another fox she has that has an actual real problem that needed to be "rescued" due to its conditions. Of the videos I have seen, she generally does "rescue" the foxes that are prettier. There were several in her walkthroughs I always wondered why she DIDN'T pick because of this reason.

This is Valentine, who apparently someone begged her to rescue.
Video of his death memorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Daw9MjbB7Zk
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From their YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ42KAIU_Gw
"#thevalentinefox BACKSTORY Valentine is a 5 year old pearl/cross furfarm rescue fox with a genetic condition called Gingival Hyperplasia. Because of this he gets surgery once a year to trim back his gums. Since his condition is not curable at this time. Valentines recap from 10-20-2017 "Valentine was brought into the vet for his very first exam. During this exam he received all vaccines, was neutered, and we had a biopsy done to find out what exactly is wrong with his mouth. The results from his biopsy came back. He has something called Gingival hyperplasia which is just the overgrowth of gums and luckly this is not cancerous. Studies have shown this is often hereditary in farm foxes. This happens when they are bred for the fur quality (many of you may have noticed he has the thickest coat of fur here) and this was the unfortunate side affect. We can help Val! He will need more surgeries to remove the tissues so the teeth can have normal wear and exposure. Removing the extra tissue will also help prevent infections. Because with how they are now he often gets hair stuck in his gums. It may take more than one surgery to help Val. His sponsors are going to do what they can but we would appreciate donations to help Valentine's medical costs."

I did a quick lookback at a couple to find some shots:
From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7q6-MY5xYU

The cage seemed like such a downgrade to me and on top of that I dont think they even have a "yard" for Todd.
I don't even think they had a follow up with him.
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For Kib and Waverly, they never once pulled the camera back to show the rest of the area, the size of the enclosure, or any type of size of yard.
It looks like a glorified ferret cage.
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8XywC09J5o
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Bonus comment I found while poking around:
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Hollyyee shit this is some crazy. The only people I knew who wanted foxes were all autistic furries and/or those weird "I'm a Cherokee Princess" middle aged white women with pictures of wolves in feather headdresses and shit all over their house.

 

[Gaz Norfman]

Wouldn't a policy like this result in people getting dogs that are unsuitable for them? That sounds like a bad time for both the owner and the dog.

You’d think so, but the owner of the rescue basically won’t adopt dogs out to someone unless they will take literally any dog. She claims they’ve had very few surrenders over the years. The bigger downside is that since she’s so strict about who she adopts to, she sometimes struggles to place the dogs. She’ll share a picture of the dog who she says doesn’t have a home, then people apply for that dog, then get turned away because they applied for that specific dog and not literally any dog. And then sometimes those dogs die.

Spoiler: Dog funeral

Like this dog, Firefly, who died because no one had the right “mindset” to adopt her. That is your fault.

Firefly died and they had a funeral for her. Her blood is on your hands for not adopting her, btw.
The next spoiler has dead dog pictures, but it isn’t gruesome. Don’t click if you don’t want to see a dead dog.

Spoiler: Dead dog, do not click

These dogs, who nearly all have some illness or injury of some kind, cost $850 to adopt, too. And you’ll see people in the comments who have donated to this rescue regularly over the years who still get rejected for these dogs because they don’t have “the mindset.”

And recently one dog was given back for being reactive, hard to walk, and biting people. So bunnysbuddies made a pretty long Instagram story about how it was the adopter who was the problem because the professional trainer didn’t have a problem with the dog.
It’s wild. Since the dogs are all fucked up, it takes a lot of money to fix them, both in Korea and when they get to the US/Canada. It seems like for the money, she could probably save a lot more dogs if she had similar standards to other rescues (some of which are already pretty picky).

 

[AnOminous]

All of my cats I've ever had were rescue cats from outdoors and they did not want to go back there ever.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

All of my cats I've ever had were rescue cats from outdoors and they did not want to go back there ever.

I have had indoor cats that started door dashing like crazies because they loved the outdoors.

I don't have strong overall preference on the subject. I think it depends where you live and personality of the cat. There are places where no cat should be an outdoor cat and places where outdoor cats are best thing ever.

 

[Just wandering]

Idiots will fight tooth and nail for the right to scrape their cat off the road. lf you can't be arsed to give your kitty the mental stimulation it needs without turning it loose, maybe you should reconsider a pet cat. Get some cat furniture, toys, and spend some time playing with it every day. I let mine hunt bugs that get trapped in the house, you can even make cat kongs or a fenced catio enclosure.

I fucking love cats but they're miniature terrorists who kill for fun, and what you see on your porch is a tiny fraction of their body count. Current toll is something like 2.4 billion birds killed annually in the US alone and 33 species extinct globally (that we know of) due to cat predation.

Spoiler: Aussie feral cat stomach contents (nasty)

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You indoor peep always think the outside is the wilderness full of coyotte that always eat your cat. Have you ever heard of quiet suburb or veterinary care/vaccine?
Also you can't say that allowing your cat outside will destroy the local bird population and at the same time the cat will be automatically killed by the wildlife. Both fact are contradicting each other. cat are mainly a treat in isolated island and australian/new zeland mainly because the ABSCENCE of predactor.
Also the whole bird annihilator thing is based on very loose estimate on small metadata based on WILD FERAL cat not pet cat. They're true effect will never be certain and they always thing that a far more detrimal to bird population

https://blog.mybirdbuddy.com/post/do-cats-harm-bird-populations

Also in the great sheme of thing Cat are better rodent killer than bird killer. In on island(don't remember the name) when they successfully eliminated the cat population they got a huge rodent explosion making the situation not only unresolved but maybe far worst (rodent like rat are opportunist omnivore, they devour the egg and nestling)
Just saying that if the feral cat population in austrailan magically disapper they will be a massive rodent problem here especially due to the elimination of one of the few predator

 

[Spennychu]

You’d think so, but the owner of the rescue basically won’t adopt dogs out to someone unless they will take literally any dog. She claims they’ve had very few surrenders over the years. The bigger downside is that since she’s so strict about who she adopts to, she sometimes struggles to place the dogs. She’ll share a picture of the dog who she says doesn’t have a home, then people apply for that dog, then get turned away because they applied for that specific dog and not literally any dog. And then sometimes those dogs die.

Spoiler: Dog funeral

Like this dog, Firefly, who died because no one had the right “mindset” to adopt her. That is your fault.
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Firefly died and they had a funeral for her. Her blood is on your hands for not adopting her, btw.
The next spoiler has dead dog pictures, but it isn’t gruesome. Don’t click if you don’t want to see a dead dog.

Spoiler: Dead dog, do not click

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These dogs, who nearly all have some illness or injury of some kind, cost $850 to adopt, too. And you’ll see people in the comments who have donated to this rescue regularly over the years who still get rejected for these dogs because they don’t have “the mindset.”
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And recently one dog was given back for being reactive, hard to walk, and biting people. So bunnysbuddies made a pretty long Instagram story about how it was the adopter who was the problem because the professional trainer didn’t have a problem with the dog.
It’s wild. Since the dogs are all fucked up, it takes a lot of money to fix them, both in Korea and when they get to the US/Canada. It seems like for the money, she could probably save a lot more dogs if she had similar standards to other rescues (some of which are already pretty picky).

Let me get this straight, this woman refuses to adopt out dogs to willing families then turns around and guilt trips them with photos of dead dogs saying they didn't try hard enough?? hoooly shit that somehow makes me more MOTI than Redemption Paws. Could you imagine following them on social media, I bet they burn out of volunteers and donators quickly. Rescue work is depressing enough already without this toxic nut shoving dog copses onto their followers what a recipe for mental illness.

You indoor peep always think the outside is the wilderness full of coyotte that always eat your cat. Have you ever heard of quiet suburb or veterinary care/vaccine?
Also you can't say that allowing your cat outside will destroy the local bird population and at the same time the cat will be automatically killed by the wildlife. Both fact are contradicting each other. cat are mainly a treat in isolated island and australian/new zeland mainly because the ABSCENCE of predactor.
Also the whole bird annihilator thing is based on very loose estimate on small metadata based on WILD FERAL cat not pet cat. They're true effect will never be certain and they always thing that a far more detrimal to bird population

https://blog.mybirdbuddy.com/post/do-cats-harm-bird-populations

Also in the great sheme of thing Cat are better rodent killer than bird killer. In on island(don't remember the name) when they successfully eliminated the cat population they got a huge rodent explosion making the situation not only unresolved but maybe far worst (rodent like rat are opportunist omnivore, they devour the egg and nestling)
Just saying that if the feral cat population in austrailan magically disapper they will be a massive rodent problem here especially due to the elimination of one of the few predator

Nah mate cats are a problem everywhere they aren't native to, Aus and NZ are just the ballsiest with their cat culling policies. Europe and North American animals have an advantage because at least they're familiar with feline predators, but hundreds of millions of cats? just not sustainable. And in some ways pet cats are worse, they're receiving supplemental feedings and regular vet care so they're always in prime killing condition. at least ferals are bogged down with parasites and die from injury. Little Oreo gets stitched up then he's back to eating birds like nothing happened. And yes a cat can eat wildlife and also get eaten by it, it's not a contradiction, it's middle school level science. here's a helpful chart:

 

[candle tiger]

Also you can't say that allowing your cat outside will destroy the local bird population and at the same time the cat will be automatically killed by the wildlife. Both fact are contradicting each other.

This cunt spells like a 4th grader, thinks that hawks killing outdoor cats and outdoor cats killing your average sparrow are mutually exclusive, and cites some random birdwatching blog as a source. You should go back to your fanfiction and Tumblr threads.

 

[Just wandering]

Nah mate cats are a problem everywhere they aren't native to, Aus and NZ are just the ballsiest with their cat culling policies. Europe and North American animals have an advantage because at least they're familiar with feline predators, but hundreds of millions of cats? just not sustainable. And in some ways pet cats are worse, they're receiving supplemental feedings and regular vet care so they're always in prime killing condition. at least ferals are bogged down with parasites and die from injury. Little Oreo gets stitched up then he's back to eating birds like nothing happened. And yes a cat can eat wildlife and also get eaten by it, it's not a contradiction, it's middle school level science. here's a helpful chart:

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Can you read? I say destroying the whole population like you claimed a few moment ago, not hunting few bird and mouse.
Also either your mentally challenged or never owned a cat. A feral cat must hunt it prey or else it will starve, a spoiled house cat that never have the need to learn to be a good hunter is no match. That why the feral cat will kill far more animal that the usual pet cat even if his lifespan is shorter. Heck even your study you use as proof are saying it the feral and abandoned cat not pet cat

And north america having no feline natural predactor? Lol your dumb

Also they're a native wildcat specie in europe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wildcat

Clearly you just trying to find excuse to hate cat

 

[Clorox Cowboy]

You indoor peep always think the outside is the wilderness full of coyotte that always eat your cat. Have you ever heard of quiet suburb or veterinary care/vaccine?
Also you can't say that allowing your cat outside will destroy the local bird population and at the same time the cat will be automatically killed by the wildlife. Both fact are contradicting each other. cat are mainly a treat in isolated island and australian/new zeland mainly because the ABSCENCE of predactor.
Also the whole bird annihilator thing is based on very loose estimate on small metadata based on WILD FERAL cat not pet cat. They're true effect will never be certain and they always thing that a far more detrimal to bird population

https://blog.mybirdbuddy.com/post/do-cats-harm-bird-populations

Also in the great sheme of thing Cat are better rodent killer than bird killer. In on island(don't remember the name) when they successfully eliminated the cat population they got a huge rodent explosion making the situation not only unresolved but maybe far worst (rodent like rat are opportunist omnivore, they devour the egg and nestling)
Just saying that if the feral cat population in austrailan magically disapper they will be a massive rodent problem here especially due to the elimination of one of the few predator

Please educate yourself on this topic before you run your mouth. Cats are very efficient predators and tend to decimate the environment of areas they are exposed to. Birds, reptiles, small mammals, all of them bow before the cat.
They are invasive, breed quickly, and completely wreck local environments. Keep your fucking cats indoors.

 

[Just wandering]

Please educate yourself on this topic before you run your mouth. Cats are very efficient predators and tend to decimate the environment of areas they are exposed to. Birds, reptiles, small mammals, all of them bow before the cat.
They are invasive, breed quickly, and completely wreck local environments. Keep your fucking cats indoors.

Obviously you didn't read the synopsis which first cat aren't the only thing that are a treat to bird population 2 they're magnitude are purely speculative.
What you send me is a huge meta data of multiple estimation study which some some give huge variety result

Some debunk

https://www.saveacat.org/debunking-the-myths-and-misinformation-cat-predation.html

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

Please educate yourself on this topic before you run your mouth. Cats are very efficient predators and tend to decimate the environment of areas they are exposed to. Birds, reptiles, small mammals, all of them bow before the cat.
They are invasive, breed quickly, and completely wreck local environments. Keep your fucking cats indoors.

Okey, but how do you do rodent control in a farm? The waiste, loss of crops, damage to structures, and parasites that come with wild animals can be very dangerous for a farm. Especially if you have something like chickens or ducks? Their feed will invate rodents and those rodents will invite predators that will happily much on birds too.

Poisons are notoriously inefficient in a long run becouse rodents either learn avoid it or evolve tolarece. There are ratdogs but that's kinda it and there are alot of small rodents. So what's your solution if cats that have worked out great for thousands of years are out?

 

[Clorox Cowboy]

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Obviously you didn't read the synopsis which first cat aren't the only thing that are a treat to bird population 2 they're magnitude are purely speculative.
What you send me is a huge meta data of multiple estimation study which some some give huge variety result

Some debunk

https://www.saveacat.org/debunking-the-myths-and-misinformation-cat-predation.html

And you clearly didn't read any of it because they go on to discuss how the effects of domestic cats are still speculative because people continue to refuse to put resources into studies because of the feeling that it pales in comparison to the effect humans have on endangered species (which is very true).

Something being the lesser of two evils doesn't excuse it.

Okey, but how do you do rodent control in a farm? The waiste, loss of crops, damage to structures, and parasites that come with wild animals can be very dangerous for a farm. Especially if you have something like chickens or ducks? Their feed will invate rodents and those rodents will invite predators that will happily much on birds too.

Poisons are notoriously inefficient in a long run becouse rodents either learn avoid it or evolve tolarece. There are ratdogs but that's kinda it and there are alot of small rodents. So what's your solution if cats that have worked out great for thousands of years are out?

While some people may not agree as someone who lives in the country I am sympathetic to people who keep barn cats. The feline friends have an actual job and are as you said keeping pest management under control. While there are risks they encounter like disease and becoming roadkill, as long as you spay and neuter them I'm a lot more lenient. Not really comparable to a cozy Midwestern middle class family who lets their pet houscat out for no reason.

 

[candle tiger]

Okey, but how do you do rodent control in a farm? The waiste, loss of crops, damage to structures, and parasites that come with wild animals can be very dangerous for a farm. Especially if you have something like chickens or ducks? Their feed will invate rodents and those rodents will invite predators that will happily much on birds too.

Poisons are notoriously inefficient in a long run becouse rodents either learn avoid it or evolve tolarece. There are ratdogs but that's kinda it and there are alot of small rodents. So what's your solution if cats that have worked out great for thousands of years are out?

Not to turn this into the farm sperg thread but I am honestly fine with the existence of barn cats (living in a barn/livestock area) the way I am fine with the existence of livestock guardian dogs that are kept outdoors with the flock. They serve a general purpose to de-pest a building, not the pet of some lazy fuck who can't be bothered to keep their pet entertained.

I personally know a few men with terriers who take them to local farms to get rid of groundhogs, etc. But obviously terriers once every few weeks does nothing for mice.

 

[Adamska]

I'll merely state that the cats my family owned back in the day that went outside more often had a notably shorter life span than the ones who did not. Like HALF THEIR FUCKING LIFESPAN short.

So yeah no. Fuck no.

 

[kidsquid]

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Can you read? I say destroying the whole population like you claimed a few moment ago, not hunting few bird and mouse.
Also either your mentally challenged or never owned a cat. A feral cat must hunt it prey or else it will starve, a spoiled house cat that never have the need to learn to be a good hunter is no match. That why the feral cat will kill far more animal that the usual pet cat even if his lifespan is shorter. Heck even your study you use as proof are saying it the feral and abandoned cat not pet cat

And north america having no feline natural predactor? Lol your dumb
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Also they're a native wildcat specie in europe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wildcat

Clearly you just trying to find excuse to hate cat

Thanks to outdoor cats, European Wildcats are on the decline due to inbreeding. So spay and neuter your cats and don't let the fuckers roam free.

 

[Random_Numbers140097]

Also they're a native wildcat specie in europe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wildcat

Clearly you just trying to find excuse to hate cat

European Wildcats are threatened due to hybridization with feral domestic cats.