Debate Vtuber simps about being pedophiles

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There are some shady folks on this site enjoying a thing called "Vtubers". These are depictions of little anime girls with varying chest sizes who are being voice acted by adult men (and allegedly women) who are doing their best impressions of what a 5 year old anime girl would sound like. The main draw of Vtubers is that they look like children and sound like children, but make adult sexual jokes and "lewd" references to appeal to their audience which is mostly composed of grown adult men.

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(this is one of the most popular Vtubers)

Are these people pedophiles? Debate why or why not.
 
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The way I look at this: maybe you’re not a pedophile, but you definitely are pedophile-adjacent. Like cmon, no one’s stupid enough to look at this and not realize what’s going on. Everyone knows what the true appeal to all this is. Please, don’t treat us like idiots.

“But most of the people voicing them are men!”

Why not use a fully-grown adult anime avatar then? Why does it have to be a scantily-clad 10 year old avatar with a voice impersonating a 10 year old making sexual jokes? This is what pisses me off the most is that this community thinks they’re so smart that they can talk their way out of what they truly feel. No one’s stupid enough to buy your shit excuses. These are depictions of little girls that make sexual jokes and you watch it for a reason. You’re not as smart as you think you are.

At least have the confidence to come out and say “I like Vtubers cuz I think they’re hot”. Everyone knows it’s what the overwhelming majority think. But nooo, we have to sit through replies trying to convince people who aren’t completely fucking retarded that the only reason they watch the half-naked virtual 10 year old make references to sucking hard cocks is for the music or some stupid ass shit. Fuck off.
 
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A lot of these virtual ecelebs are piloted by fat greasy men in their thirties, so probably not.
By that definition nobody who jerks off to loli is a pedophile because it is drawn by grown men, but yet they are people who get their rocks off to depictions of little kids, aka pedophiles. I think what counts is that their wiener gets hard for kids, not who the creator is.
 
A lot of these virtual ecelebs are piloted by fat greasy men in their thirties, so probably not.
This is the kind of absolutely retarded logic I’m talking about.

It doesn’t matter what the person behind the screen is like if they’re purposely enabling a fantasy by portraying a scantily clad underage girl while talking about sexual topics. There’s a reason this genre stands out, and that’s because people who are attracted to minors will watch these streams and in a way live the fantasy of having a half naked child talk dirty. It may not be illegal and it may not even make you a pedophile, but it does at the very least make you pedophile-adjacent.
 
I personally can't imagine why people get so attached to streamers, especially for "VTubers" no less. It's a parasocial "relationship" with waifufaggotry on steroids. How can you be so severely detached from reality and "enjoy" this "content"? Sure, reality is shit sometimes, but there are several other things you can do to get off from it for a while. Like playing video games, a hobby, working out or going outside.
But if you jack off to loli, you're a pedophile. Simple as.
Seek help or preferably: Get the rope.
 
Here's the thing. You said ephebophilia is pedophilia.

Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is a diddler who studies children, I am telling you, specifically, in diddling, no one calls ephebophilia pedophilia. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

If you're saying "pedophile family" you're referring to the paraphilia grouping of chronophilia, which includes things from nepiophibilia to hebepohilia to gerontophilia.

So your reasoning for calling ephebophilia pedophilia is because random people "call the ephebopophile ones pedophiles?" Let's get teleiophiles and mesophiles in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. An ephebophile is an ephebophile and a member of the chronophilia classification. But that's not what you said. You said ephebophilia is pedophilia, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the chronophilia class ephebophiles, which means you'd call nepiophiles, teliophiles, and other sexual attractions pedophilia, too. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
 
Here's the thing. You said ephebophilia is pedophilia.

Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is a diddler who studies children, I am telling you, specifically, in diddling, no one calls ephebophilia pedophilia. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

If you're saying "pedophile family" you're referring to the paraphilia grouping of chronophilia, which includes things from nepiophibilia to hebepohilia to gerontophilia.

So your reasoning for calling ephebophilia pedophilia is because random people "call the ephebopophile ones pedophiles?" Let's get teleiophiles and mesophiles in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. An ephebophile is an ephebophile and a member of the chronophilia classification. But that's not what you said. You said ephebophilia is pedophilia, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the chronophilia class ephebophiles, which means you'd call nepiophiles, teliophiles, and other sexual attractions pedophilia, too. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
Here's a more in-depth analysis of the differences between those. The general, oft-accepted term for pedophile is an adult that is attracted to underage persons. In simplest terms, somebody who is under 18. You're unnecessarily playing with semantics in regards to a serious issue.
 
Here's a more in-depth analysis of the differences between those. The general, oft-accepted term for pedophile is an adult that is attracted to underage persons. In simplest terms, somebody who is under 18. You're unnecessarily playing with semantics in regards to a serious issue.
How does no one get that he was posting a copy pasta.
 
In my experience with internet freaks of nature, pedos in hiding have a very particular manner about them, a specific vernacular, and I haven't seen its use on this site. Of course, that would require me to actually be in the vtuber threads and I couldn't give less of a shit, so I might not have the full picture.
In general I think it's unfair to say that all or even most vtuber fans are closeted kiddy-fiddlers, but I'm willing to bet without a shred of evidence that the majority on KF probably are.
 
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