Business White House Aims To Shut Down Ammunition Sales While Dems Claim To Engage In Good Faith Gun Talks - California's favorite president of all time hopefully leads to other states turning against it

Article (Archive)

While Democrats claim to engage in talks on bipartisan gun legislation in good faith, the White House is aiming behind the scenes to shut down nationwide ammunition sales.

In northwestern Missouri, a major government-owned ammunition plant is now facing closure as the Biden administration escalates its war on American gun owners, The Federalist has learned.

The Lake City ammunition factory is one of the largest manufacturers of M855/SS109 ammo which is the most popular caliber for the most targeted firearm in the country: the AR-15. In operation since 1941 to produce ammunition for the U.S. Army, the government contracts with the private firm Winchester to run the enterprise and sell any excess supplies on the open market. The plant also produces XM855 and XM193 ammunition.

Mark Oliva, a spokesman for the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), told The Federalist “Winchester was informed that the government is considering restricting the manufacturing and commercial sale of legal ammunition produced at the Lake City, Mo., facility.”

Such restrictions, Oliva said, would place 400 to 500 jobs in immediate jeopardy, reduce available ammunition in the market, and sever the nation’s wartime readiness.

“This policy to deny the sale of excess ammunition not only would freeze over 30 percent of the 5.56mm/.223 caliber ammunition used by law-abiding gun owners,” Oliva said, “it risks the ammunition industry’s ability to surge production capacity for national defense if the costs to maintain the present workforce isn’t recouped through sales to the civilian market.”

The White House did not respond to The Federalist’s request for comment.

In 2015, the Obama/Biden administration sought to prohibit sales of M855/SS109, also known as “green tip ammo,” through a backdoor bureaucratic ban with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF). The ATF tried to amend the definition of the popular ammo — which is far less lethal than other types of common rifle ammunition on the market — as “armor-piercing” to fit a federal statute warranting restrictions. The ensuing controversy led to the early retirement of ATF Director B. Todd Jones, who became the first ATF chief to step down since the position required Senate confirmation, according to the National Rifle Association.

Behind-the-scenes gun laws are a favorite pattern of President Biden, whose administration has overseen a 500 percent spike in firearm retail licensure revocations over typos.

Meanwhile, on Sunday, a group of bipartisan senators — which included at least 10 Republicans and would pass the threshold to overcome a filibuster — announced an agreement for a framework on new gun legislation promoting “red flag” laws and expanded background checks. Details of the bill remain in flux as senators also pledge more money for school safety and mental health resources. The framework has drawn support from Republican Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Turbulence in negotiations surfaced Thursday, however, when Texas Republican Sen. John Cornyn, who initially endorsed the proposal, walked out on Capitol Hill.

“It’s fish or cut bait,” Cornyn told reporters, according to The Guardian while other senators remained negotiating. “I don’t know what they have in mind, but I’m through talking.”

Cornyn said he had not abandoned talks but for now, is headed back to Texas.

The Biden administration’s plan to take an ax to the nation’s ammo supplies, however, threatens to further undermine efforts in the Senate on a compromise as Democrats reveal their true intentions.

“This policy of ceasing the sale of excess ammunition is ill-timed and jeopardizes the fragile negotiations of the framework deal that was agreed to by the bipartisan group of senators,” Oliva told The Federalist. “Senators specifically requested the White House allow the Senate negotiate in good faith and without interference to arrive at their agreement.”

Days before Democrat lawmakers touted the reform effort’s resources for mental health, Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy, a lead negotiator on the legislation, told reporters to “Spare me the bullsh-t about mental illness.”

As Federalist Senior Editor David Harsanyi points out, however, “in virtually every recent shooting, from Parkland to Uvalde, the murderer exhibited violent antisocial behavior that was crying out for intervention.”
 
It should be important to note that they going after M855 green tips, a round that is hated by a lot of ranges.

Those rounds are very cheap though compared to the M193.

However, they will go after the M193 next.
876ufhg.png

76truf.png

Not saying this antagonistically, but if you're getting it dirt cheap [compared to m193] you might have a gold mine of your hands. Everywhere I look, they are virtually the same price, just a few pennies more per round.
-----
As a side note for anyone that wants to listen, now is the time to buy in bulk if you have the extra cash. Bullet prices are not going down in price, and will go only up. Inflation, scarcity of materials, scarcity of product, and news like this will only drive prices up again. These are the bottom prices. You're 20-somthing cent 556 a bullet is never coming back. Something significant happens, these prices shoot through the roof and then you're also fighting scarcity issues. Plan ahead, bullets function for 50+ years when stored correctly.
 
They had plans to use the EPA to regulate bullets out of existence also
The EPA has closed all the primary lead smelters in the US.
The Lead Belt that runs through Missouri still has tons of ore but we can not do anything with it.
The EPA has also been going after car battery recyclers.

They tighten standards and claim they are improving the environment.
Then the producers leave the country, set up offshore with no environmental or safety standards and use lots of diesel to ship their products to the US.
Progress!!!
 
IIRC as far as indoor goes, they fuck up the backstop.

As far as outdoors goes, they believe the greentips can start a fire somehow.
Steel projectiles can allegedly spark and start a fire.
A few years ago one of the ranges I go to actually burned down because of fire, allegedly started because someone was firing green tip.
 
What's stopping the states the plants are in (or, in cases like this with a pozzed state) other more Republican states from offering the manufacturers leases and funding to get up and running elsewhere?
 
What's stopping the states the plants are in (or, in cases like this with a pozzed state) other more Republican states from offering the manufacturers leases and funding to get up and running elsewhere?
Because Lake City is a Federal facility - the states don't have jurisdiction.

It should be noted that a lot of commercial ammo companies have been making concerted efforts to ramp up and expand production. They did this in response to the surge in demand when everyone suddenly wanted a gun during the Fiery But Mostly Peaceful Protests of 2020, and with the ban on Russian imports there's now efforts to expand even further. So, they might be able to make up and the supply crunch won't be too bad.
 
Last edited:
Yeah, you can tell the people in charge of the Biden Administration don't know any fucking thing.

The reason the feds always allowed Remington and the like to sell off surplus ammo is that it allows the Feds to buy it at cheaper rates, keep the manufacturing lines running, and give the company a reason to keep up stockpiles.

Forbidding them from doing this is going to hurt the GOVERNMENT bad.

There's already ammo shortages according to Ordnance Command.

With the military going to supposedly go to a heavier round to, you know, kill people better than a jumped up .22, they're going to have to provide incentives to keep those ammo lines rolling and not have to pay $1.05 a bullet.

But, because GUN BAD and this Admin is dumb as fuck and the Generals that normally handle this are all stupid and the bitch in charge of Ordnance Corps is a fucking diversity hire retard, this is totally not going to bite the US military or the taxpayer in the ass.
 
Yeah, you can tell the people in charge of the Biden Administration don't know any fucking thing.

The reason the feds always allowed Remington and the like to sell off surplus ammo is that it allows the Feds to buy it at cheaper rates, keep the manufacturing lines running, and give the company a reason to keep up stockpiles.

Forbidding them from doing this is going to hurt the GOVERNMENT bad.

There's already ammo shortages according to Ordnance Command.

With the military going to supposedly go to a heavier round to, you know, kill people better than a jumped up .22, they're going to have to provide incentives to keep those ammo lines rolling and not have to pay $1.05 a bullet.

But, because GUN BAD and this Admin is dumb as fuck and the Generals that normally handle this are all stupid and the bitch in charge of Ordnance Corps is a fucking diversity hire retard, this is totally not going to bite the US military or the taxpayer in the ass.
Given the way things are going, is the Us military shedding every bit of effectiveness and equipment really a bad thing? Especially since they're just targeting 5.56, probably expecting .277 Fury to fill the gap or something. Just force everyone to switch to .308 or some flavor of 6.5mm. It's a bold strategy.
 
Since the armed forces will be turned against the US citizens before too long, I can't get too upset about them screwing everything up.

Curious to see how a bunch of literally pozzed trannies hold up against rural good ol' boys.
I hope it never comes to pass but if it does I want the armed forces as "diverse and inclusive" as possible.
Disrupt the flow of HRT and you can bring an entire division to its knees.
 
Yeah, you can tell the people in charge of the Biden Administration don't know any fucking thing.

The reason the feds always allowed Remington and the like to sell off surplus ammo is that it allows the Feds to buy it at cheaper rates, keep the manufacturing lines running, and give the company a reason to keep up stockpiles.

Forbidding them from doing this is going to hurt the GOVERNMENT bad.

There's already ammo shortages according to Ordnance Command.

With the military going to supposedly go to a heavier round to, you know, kill people better than a jumped up .22, they're going to have to provide incentives to keep those ammo lines rolling and not have to pay $1.05 a bullet.

But, because GUN BAD and this Admin is dumb as fuck and the Generals that normally handle this are all stupid and the bitch in charge of Ordnance Corps is a fucking diversity hire retard, this is totally not going to bite the US military or the taxpayer in the ass.
Well, we're getting a version of the 90s AWB back, but no 90's music or irreverence.
Looks like they took that Chris Rock joke about bullet control as literal policy.

Though given how liberals usually make super simple arguments for everything, well looks like the true believers bought into it.
 
I was never a fan of 5.56 but this can't possibly be a good thing. At least there are other options for it and other calibers for now.
 
  • Feels
Reactions: MrJokerRager
They had plans to use the EPA to regulate bullets out of existence also
They've already done some of that in California.

No lead ammo because of the heckin' condorinos (even though they are only found in four counties) and no steel ammo because of the heckin' fire danger (because 100,000 catastrophic fires are started every year by ricochets).

I'm surprised they haven't gone after plastic wads because of the heckin' albatrosses, even though the overwhelming majority of plastic trash comes from the heckin' ching chong chinamen.
 
Looks like they took that Chris Rock joke about bullet control as literal policy.

Though given how liberals usually make super simple arguments for everything, well looks like the true believers bought into it.
I'm pretty sure there's a court decision that says ammunition can't be banned. Maybe it was Miller?
 
Back