US Why an energy crisis and $5 gas aren’t spurring a green revolution - As high prices move consumers to rethink their attachment to oil and gas, America is struggling to meet the moment


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Electric power lines and wind turbines along Interstate 10 in Palm Springs, Calif. The United States' goal is for all carbon pollution to be gone from the electricity sector by 2035.

Big solar projects are facing major delays. Plans to adapt the grid to clean energy are confronting mountains of red tape. Affordable electric vehicles are in short supply.

The United States is struggling to squeeze opportunity out of an energy crisis that should have been a catalyst for cleaner, domestically produced power. After decades of putting the climate on the back burner, the country is finding itself unprepared to seize the moment and at risk of emerging from the crisis even more reliant on fossil fuels.

The problem is not entirely unique to the United States. Across the globe, climate leaders are warning that energy shortages prompted by Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine and high gas prices driven by inflation threaten to make the energy transition an afterthought — potentially thwarting efforts to keep global temperature rise under 1.5 degrees Celsius.

“The energy crisis exacerbated by the war in Ukraine has seen a perilous doubling down on fossil fuels by the major economies,” U.N. Secretary General António Guterres said at a conference in Vienna on Tuesday, according to prepared remarks. He warned governments and investors that a failure to immediately and more aggressively embrace clean energy could be disastrous for the planet.

U.S. climate envoy John F. Kerry suggested that nations are falling prey to a flawed logic that fossil fuels will help them weather this period of instability, which has seen gas prices climb to a record-high national average of $5 per gallon. “You have this new revisionism suggesting that we have to be pumping oil like crazy, and we have to be moving into long-term [fossil fuel] infrastructure building,” he said at the Time100 Summit in New York this month. “We have to push back.”

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Climate envoy John F. Kerry attends the Summit of the Americas in Los Angeles on June 8. Kerry has criticized the tendency to turn toward fossil fuels in times of uncertainty.

In the United States — the world’s second-largest emitter of greenhouse gases after China — the hurdles go beyond the supply chain crunch and sanctions linked to the war in Ukraine. The country’s lofty goals for all carbon pollution to be gone from the electricity sector by 2035 and for half the cars sold to be electric by 2030 are jeopardized by years of neglect of the electrical grid, regulatory hurdles that have set projects back years, and failures by Congress and policymakers to plan ahead.

The challenges are further compounded by plans to build costly new infrastructure for drilling and exporting natural gas that will make it even harder to transition away from the fossil fuel.

“We are running into structural challenges preventing consumers and businesses from going cleaner, even at this time of high oil and gas prices,” said Paul Bledsoe, a climate adviser in the Clinton administration who now works on strategy at the Progressive Policy Institute, a center-left think tank. “It is a little alarming that even now, Congress is barely talking about clean energy.”

Consumers are eager for more wind and solar. Companies looking to go carbon-neutral are facing growing waitlists for access to green energy, and a Pew Research Center poll in late January found that two-thirds of Americans want the United States to prioritize alternative energy over fossil fuel production.

But lawmakers have balked for more than a decade at making most of the fundamental economic and policy changes that experts widely agree are crucial to an orderly and accelerated energy transition. The United States does not have a tax on carbon, nor a national cap-and-trade program that would reorient markets toward lowering emissions. The unraveling in Congress of President Biden’s $1.75 trillion Build Back Better plan has added to the head winds that green-energy developers face.

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Vice President Harris tours electric school buses at Meridian High School in Falls Church, Va., on May 20.

“There is literally nothing pushing this forward in the U.S. beyond the tax code and some state laws,” said Heather Zichal, a former White House climate adviser who is now the chief executive of the American Clean Power Association.

The effects of the U.S. government’s halting approach are being felt by solar-panel installers, who saw the number of projects in the most recent quarter fall to the lowest level since the pandemic began. There was 24 percent less solar installed in the first quarter of 2022 than in the same quarter of 2021.

The holdup largely stems from a Commerce Department investigation into alleged tariff-dodging by Chinese manufacturers. Faced with the potential for steep retroactive penalties, hundreds of industrial-scale solar projects were frozen in early April. Weak federal policies to encourage investment in solar manufacturing left American companies ill-equipped to fill the void.

“We shut down multiple projects and had to lay off dozens of people,” said George Hershman, chief executive of SOLV Energy, which specializes in large solar installations. SOLV, like dozens of other solar companies, is now scrambling to reassemble those projects after the administration announced a pause of the tariffs.

Meanwhile, adding clean electricity to the power grid has become an increasingly complicated undertaking, given the failure to plan for adequate transmission lines and long delays connecting viable wind and solar projects to the electricity network.

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Bill Ford, executive chairman of the Ford Motor Company, speaks at the launch of the electric F-150 Lightning pickup at the Ford Rouge Electric Vehicle Center on April 26 in Dearborn, Mich. Only 4 percent of vehicles sold in the United States last year were electric, but interest is growing.

While the United States is hitting some significant benchmarks in the transition to greener electricity, boasting record installations of clean power in the first quarter of this year, the rate of growth has slowed and lags where it needs to be to reach key climate goals. The country is not alone in this predicament.

The record growth in wind and solar last year was outpaced by the world’s rising demand for energy, according to Ember, a European think tank that tracks the energy transition. Clean power could meet only a third of that growth in 2021. The rest was largely met by burning more coal.

“We are seeing progress in the transition, but it is not fast enough,” said Roberto Bocca, head of energy at the World Economic Forum. “And it is not resilient enough to the increased volatility in the current economic and political environment.”

The United States needs to triple its pace of emissions reductions to meet the targets it has set for itself, according to a new study by researchers at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, the Electric Power Research Institute and other institutions.

There are numerous hurdles in the way, as outdated federal rules and local planning disputes slow projects down. In November, for instance, one of the country’s larger clean-energy projects faltered in the Northeast. Maine voters stymied plans for a transmission line that would bring enough clean electricity from hydroelectric plants fueled by dams in Canada to power 900,000 homes in New England.

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In April 2021, workers mark land on a power-line corridor near Bingham, Maine, that was widened to make way for the New England Clean Energy Connect, a transmission line that would bring clean electricity from hydroelectric plants in Canada. A ballot initiative last November killed the project.

The plan was opposed by some local conservation groups that argued the lines would create an environmental menace in Maine’s North Woods and that hydroelectric power is detrimental to fragile aquatic ecosystems. But the most potent opposition came from energy companies heavily invested in fossil fuel, which spent $24 million supporting the ballot initiative campaign to kill the transmission line.

That fight was sobering to Richard Barringer, a champion of the project and former commissioner of conservation and director of state planning who had served three Maine governors.

“The very local opposition did not surprise me,” Barringer said. “What did surprise me was the amount of money that poured in.”

The vote reversed a years-long, multimillion-dollar state approval process during which, Barringer said, environmental concerns were thoroughly considered and mitigated. And voter antipathy toward the project was driven in large part by distrust for the local utility partner on it, Central Maine Power, which has a dismal customer service record and a history of outages.

The project, which supporters are asking the courts to get back on track, was a key building block of the climate action plan for New England’s most populous state, Massachusetts.

Its troubles are indicative of a much bigger nationwide challenge in building transmission lines for all forms of clean energy. The Department of Energy reports that transmission systems need to be expanded by 60 percent by 2030 to meet the administration’s goals. And they may need to triple in capacity by 2050.

Patching wind and solar projects into the grid infrastructure that does exist, meanwhile, is increasingly challenging. Over the last decade, the time it takes to get a project online has jumped from two years to longer than three and a half years, according to the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. Its researchers say grid operators are taking longer to study project viability and are overwhelmed by a dramatic rise in the number of projects in the queue.

The Biden administration is promising to ease congestion and shore up the grid through billions of dollars in spending on transmission lines and other improvements authorized in the infrastructure package that Congress passed. But it will probably be years before the upgrades and expansions are operational.

The operators of PJM Interconnection, a grid that serves 13 states stretching from North Carolina to Illinois, as well as D.C., are so backlogged with proposals for solar and wind farms that they are putting most of them on hold as they overhaul their procedures. The pause on new hookups, said Mary Kate Francis, director of energy sourcing at Edison Energy, a company that helps large companies secure clean power, means that “new projects companies wanted to develop in that area will face a multiyear wait to even be considered.”

Clean-power producers are also hitting numerous barriers in their bid to generate huge volumes of energy with offshore wind turbines. Among them is a provision in the House bill funding the Coast Guard mandating that only American ships can be involved in construction work on the U.S. Outer Continental Shelf. Amid a shortage of such American ships and trained crews to operate them, wind energy developers warn, the measure would effectively halt production of offshore wind.

As the clean-electricity industry confronts these growing pains, promoters of electric cars are running into their own obstacles.

Government programs that exist to promote zero-emissions vehicle production are sending mixed signals to manufacturers and drivers as some tax credits expire, Congress delays extending them and regulations give automakers leeway to set their own timelines for getting more electric cars into showrooms.

A new report by Bloomberg New Energy Finance finds that the United States and other countries need to dramatically step up production to meet their goal of making all transportation carbon-neutral by 2050. It would require zero-emission cars and trucks to make up 61 percent of all vehicles sold worldwide by 2030.

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Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg discusses investments in the U.S. electric-vehicle charging network outside Transportation Department headquarters in Washington in February. The administration plans to install hundreds of thousands of new charging stations.

Only 4 percent of cars sold in the United States last year were electric vehicles.

The sticker price of a new electric vehicle is $10,000 more than a comparable gas-powered model, and lawmakers have so far balked at renewing some of the subsidies designed to bring the price down while the industry scales up. Even so, interest in the vehicles is so high that many buyers eager to get in an electric car or hybrid have found themselves instead on a waitlist.

A plan the administration unveiled Thursday to install hundreds of thousands of new charging stations will help accelerate the transition. But even more crucial right now are $7,500 federal tax credits that make the cars affordable for consumers. They have expired for several models and cannot be used to purchase used vehicles.

Joe Britton, executive director of the Zero Emission Transportation Association, said the goal is clear: to flood the market with millions of electric cars a year — and to make them in the United States. To that end, the group is aggressively lobbying Congress to extend the tax credits.

“We need to scale, and we need to make sure we are making these vehicles here,” Britton said.




"Reeeeeee muh green revolution isn't working!!"
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There will be will be trains and trucks. There will even be some cars! It's just there won't be nearly as many.
They won't have electric trucks by 2045 that are viable.

And by then they will have destroyed the ability for gas powered trucking
(possibly gas powered flying as well)

Without Diesel or Coal you will have fucked up trains.

Enjoy your famine
 
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They won't have electric trucks by 2045 that are viable.

They're already well past the proof of concept stage. They work. These will be mandatory in the EU by 2035. The US will be a few years behind.


Without Diesel or Coal you will have fucked up trains.

Electric freight trains are very much already a thing. Battery-electric locomotives hit the market in 2021, and overhead electric has been around forever.



Enjoy your famine

Oh sure, there won't be as many trucks and trains, but my guess is people will be willing to go without expensive toys and new clothes before they're willing to go without food. You'll own nothing - and you'll have a lot less of things in general - and you'll be happy. Your belief that they will fail to impoverish you because none of their technology will work at all is typical conservative cope, and why everything gets as bad as it does. Conservatives always expect impersonal forces to ride to their rescue.

"Wait until these kids get into the real world and have to get a job!"

Well, all those kids that conservatives thought they didn't need to teach, who went to schools conservatives thought they didn't need to control, who consumed entertainment that conservatives thought they didn't need to produce, they did grow up, and they did get jobs. They got jobs in corporations with HR departments conservatives thought they didn't need to staff, at regulatory agencies conservatives thought they didn't need to run, and at law firms conservatives thought they didn't need to go to. And it turns out the Executive Director of Sustainability and the Senior VP of Diversity and Inclusion wield a tremendous amount of power.
 
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Yes, yes, every movie has exactly the same theme.

Which is why in Falling Down there was a vampire.

Or on Rosanne there was a girl throwing around ice magic.

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Actually, there's a reason that there's no longer any votes in infrastructure...

...according to pop culture.

Local politicians that promise to fix things gain massive votes.

But popular media, whenever they have infrastructure as part of the story, always shows it as not needing repair, or not needed, or it's all a big scam.

Which makes it so Joe Sixpack and Mary Joe Rottencrotch don't think about infrastructure ACTUALLY getting repaired.

Media has made it seem like it's all a union scam and politician embezzlement scheme, so the public doesn't actually expect it to get fixed.

The press doesn't help.

Quick, without looking it up: Flint Water Crisis? Solved or not? By who? How long?

How many water treatment plants in America are going tits up and why aren't they being fixed?

Media has made infrastructure repair and upgrading seem like a crooked scam, decades of mismanagement and no progress has made it seem like it never gets done.

So, all the money that used to be used for it goes for stupid shit.

It is not because of the media or holly wood that Joe Sixpack doesn't give a shit about the infrastructure. It is because when it works, no one notices and it is only when it is in full-on decay that people start to notice the issues.

Infrastructure will not energize a voter base before it fails. SO both parties kick the can down the road and hope the failure happens at the other teams turn.
 
They're already well past the proof of concept stage. They work.




Electric freight trains are very much already a thing. Battery-electric locomotives hit the market in 2021, and overhead electric has been around forever.

#1 they are shit for long haul trucking
#2 What do you think powers electric trains (Coal)

No coal [ which is the goal] no working electric trains
 
#1 they are shit for long haul trucking

They'll be good enough. Maybe it'll just take a couple extra days for anything to get cross-country, making everything more expensive. You'll probably have to sell your car and move to your Amazon Cityhive Pod to make ends meet.

#2 What do you think powers electric trains (Coal)

No coal [ which is the goal] no working electric trains

Nuclear's probably on its way back. Even if not, maybe we could do like Germany does with coal-fired power in Poland and import coal-fired power from Mexico. Environmentalists love moving pollution to a different location and declaring the problem solved. Good thing we'll have overall less electricity demand. Your Amazon Cityhive Pod doesn't consume nearly as much power as a drafty two-story colonial out in the counties does.
 
you want some classic european or japanese scooter and not some modern chinese. they are cool as hell!

you can even go camping!
I might buy one of these. Small compact and perfect for a couple.
Sure you can not go into the outback with them, that is what real trailers are for,
but for the quick weekend getaway I would absolutely consider getting one.
 
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They'll be good enough. Maybe it'll just take a couple extra days for anything to get cross-country, making everything more expensive. You'll probably have to sell your car and move to your Amazon Cityhive Pod to make ends meet.



Nuclear's probably on its way back. Even if not, maybe we could do like Germany does with coal-fired power in Poland and import coal-fired power from Mexico. Environmentalists love moving pollution to a different location and declaring the problem solved. Good thing we'll have overall less electricity demand. Your Amazon Cityhive Pod doesn't consume nearly as much power as a drafty two-story colonial out in the counties does.

To your point one: We don't have the Infrastructure for that. And we need to start building that NOW if we wanted it to be usable by then. If we started building it TODAY it would maybe be online in 2035.

But the environmentalists are fighting it.

And again the VC and Hedge Fund Gang is fighting to bring Nuclear power coming back. And if we want Nuclear to come back in time for all-electric Trains to be a thing in 2035 we needed to start building that shit 4 years ago.

So again....Enjoy your famine and civil unrest
 
"Let them eat cake" vibes from the article. Being hit by a petrol price increase and are struggling to pay for gas? Just buy another car that runs on electricity.
 
To your point one: We don't have the Infrastructure for that. And we need to start building that NOW if we wanted it to be usable by then. If we started building it TODAY it would maybe be online in 2035.

But the environmentalists are fighting it.

And again the VC and Hedge Fund Gang is fighting to bring Nuclear power coming back. And if we want Nuclear to come back in time for all-electric Trains to be a thing in 2035 we needed to start building that shit 4 years ago.

So again....Enjoy your famine and civil unrest
I think you'll be surprised to find out just how little you really need to survive. The people making this happen won't be, of course.

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Tell me more, wise sage. How do you propose that's going to happen in Clown World?

Same as everything else does, corporate lobbyists let the lawmakers on their payroll know what their priorities are. Remember when a handful of billionaires made the environmental lobby do a 180 on immigration? Any corporation that finances Democrats is all-in on decarbonization, which means now companies that never cared where electricity came from have a vested interest in nuclear, and Democrats are not about to turn down bags full of cash just because of some hysterical retards in Oregon who Vote Blue No Matter Who anyway. It looks like the battle space is being prepped. The Biden admin is much more pro-nuclear than past Democratic admins, and we're seeing pro-nuclear articles show up in places like Time and NPR when previously, they had nothing to say that wasn't hysterical.

 
Yeah California is even debating on holding off closing Diablo Canyon and Illinois pushed back closure dates on nuclear in the state. Baseload generation is a concept that has finally sunk in. A lot of eyes are on the molten salt nuclear technology. I know jack shit about it except it is supposedly having troubles. Putting faith in Bill Gates is a pretty retarded strategy but the globohomo elite are now taking nuclear power much more seriously than five years ago or even a couple.
 
Ignoring the fact that I think most power grids would kill themselves if everyone switched to EC's - fuck, minor Pl, where I live we lose power if enough people run their AC in the summer, nevermind everyone charging a vehicle at night - it doesn't help that every Green Technology is vastly inefficient for most of the world. You want Wind Power, hope you're in Holland. You want Hydro, better have a buncha lakes and rivers. You want Solar, hope to fuck you live near the equator or in a desert. And that's not even accounting for the materials needed for any of these Green Energies.

Nuclear may've gotten a bad rap after Chernobyl and 3 Mile Island, but fucking hell it works as long as it's not manned by retards or hit by a double whammy act of god like Fukushima...
 
Nuclear may've gotten a bad rap after Chernobyl and 3 Mile Island, but fucking hell it works as long as it's not manned by retards or hit by a double whammy act of god like Fukushima...

There's also the possibility of someone pulling a 9/11 or Truck of Peace on a Nuclear Power Plant too, or some white guy taking a gun and just shooting up the staff there.
 
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