USS IOWA
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Man early 2010 cosplay scene is wild, But from what I've heard she requested something but got denied.
General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.
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SmugPeko
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ID exists.
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Oh yeah. Forgot about that. Well at this point only time will tell.
I hope it doesn't end up like Nijisanji India though. If ever they would consider.
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TiredCatto
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actually, now that i think about it. the sole purpose of having ID branch especially knowing their people alone not gonna have big support in term of income, but having your own mindless follower to back up your company ain't bad idea. because in recent news, due to one gov kid lost in Aare river in swiss, people review bombing the place just because they feel Swiss ain't competent looking for one floating corpse
or a full blunder drama around chess a year ago, that involved Indonesian chess player got a bit of attention due to being the most view chess play ever. heck not even most Indonesian are into chess anyway you can check the detail below:
Chess.com | Cheating Controversy Results In Most-Watched Chess Stream In History
being bilingual is an additional skill you need to have if you want get money from people aboard.
so yeah as long as your company ain't fuck it up. you got yourself a braindead follower from one big country will to throw themself to "support" their company
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kukkia
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While they are both still third world, Indonesia does have a higher GDP per capita than the Philippines and a much higher overall population.
A Lurking Dumbass
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It'll end up like Niji IN imo. Filipinos aren't profitable when it comes to digital services since they tend to be frugal. As far as I heard, the only thing they're willing to spend digitally for is that chink mobile league of legends rip off. I think Hololive and Nijisanji haven't made a PH branch despite so many Filis in the community is because of this. There's also that odd phenomenon of self-hate where Filis hate anything and anyone that's also a Fili and will most probably not give them a chance. The only reason for both agencies to start a PH branch is for fucking FIlipinos to shut the fuck up about it.
Indonesia was chosen as their first branch to expand into because Japan and Indonesia has a long history together, have a shit ton more population, is the richest country in SEA, and is the most familiar with Japanese culture. Hell, Indonesia itself is a melting pot of different cultures so it's practically one of the best testing grounds for their expansion overseas.
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IN both have this and look at what happen. I don't think HoloPH will happen and if they ever want some PH chuuba they better make it as HoloSEA 3RD world or something.
I mean its the same with ID no? Mobile legend is big in both country.
A Lurking Dumbass
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Well, yes, but Indonesia has all those other pros to make up for it.
Rezza
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You omit the part where the dead kid in Arre was the son of a popular politician that might or might not be joined the presidential race next year
Also if I remember correctly, ID branch happened because some bigashots in Indonesian weebs scene had some business contact in Japan. People talked, and NijiID and HoloID happened
SmugPeko
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PH have pros aswell. They even beat Indonesia in SEA games.
If you just tell me that holo just don't want peenoise fans ill probably agree with you but the population, gdp and not profitable argument doesn't make sense to me it's not like they will only have PH market they can easily pander to eop or other market no?
Ask her about how much a 3 view earns. Im genuinely curious
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The "seven years old" song is getting kinda old, Trash Bear. I know you like it and you sing it well, but maybe it's time for a new favorite.
Also I don't think it really makes sense for a woman to sing it.
It might be interesting but I think it would have been funnier if she really did delete the whole thing at the end of her stream.
Also I don't think it really makes sense for a woman to sing it.
It might be interesting but I think it would have been funnier if she really did delete the whole thing at the end of her stream.
Kusogaki
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Can you tell me all about their bad decisions and incompetency? I have to deal with 3 Scuttles that are way more passive aggressive than the one in this thread.
kukkia
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India's not nearly as much into Japanese media as Indonesia, or the Philippines, for that matter. There isn't a huge otaku scene, which tends to be critical for establishing succesful vtubers. I don't think I've ever seen a dono in rupees.
Also, I really don't think Nijisanji IN should be used as an example of what would happen to every agency trying to start a branch in a third world country. Nijisanji IN was not well run, had zero effective promotion, debuted before the real heights of EN language interest in vtubers, and the livers barely even spoke Hindi or any other native Indian language. And again, not enough of a weeb scene to carry them, and by the time the English-speaking Indian weebs that do exist did get interested in vtubers they probably just went with HoloEN or something.
I'm not saying that HoloPH is a great idea, but that people should be wary of lumping India in as the same as Indonesia or using Niji IN's failure as an example. If HoloID didn't exist already and was just now announced I'm sure people would say that they would fail just like Niji India. Frankly I do think Hololive's brand recognition would be enough to carry HoloPH and make it profitable, especially since the members would all probably speak English anyways. I just think that there's more money to be made elsewhere.
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CRYING BEAR ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED.
Trash bear was driven to tears after playing a rather high-effort original song with an animated music video made by her fanbase. Apparently it's unlisted so I can't link to it, but at least be sure to check it out on her stream if we can't see it otherwise.
Uwukult is on another level.
Trash bear was driven to tears after playing a rather high-effort original song with an animated music video made by her fanbase. Apparently it's unlisted so I can't link to it, but at least be sure to check it out on her stream if we can't see it otherwise.
Uwukult is on another level.
kukkia
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As a Nijifag I can provide some examples:
- Failure to deal with the internal drama that caused the graduation of Meiro and long hiatus of Roa. I'm a bit sympathetic in this regard because as information has come out it seems like Meiro really was to blame and that it would be a difficult situation to handle, but still, it is a failure.
- Generally hands-off approach to foreign branches, reaching to the point of neglect. Anycolor prior to NijiEN seems to have had the idea that it is best to just hire some locals to run each foreign branch and then let them do their thing. Kinda worked in ID where the management was seemingly very well liked and respected by the vtubers, but failed dramatically in KR where they let internal drama in that branch fester for ages and failed to put in the effort to promote their livers. EN is the first foreign branch that hand hands-on management from Japan, and I think it's telling that after EN's success they basically canned ID and KR as separate branches and folded their management under Japan as well.
- Some bad merchandising decisions. Generally I'd say Anycolor was better at merchandising their vtubers than Cover, at least early on, but they've made some calls that have ticked fans off such as making changes to expected merchandise and whatnot. Thinking recently of the Hajiki stuff.
- Lack of promoting less popular livers. I should say here that I think this problem is very exaggerated by some people here, because they do actually promote less popular livers fairly often, like through concerts or official collabs. Think of Onomachi Haruka being a part of Koshien last year, their biggest yearly event. I do think they could definitely do more, however.
Overall I'd agree with the assessment that Anycolor has their share of fuckups, just as Cover has. I think Cover has been more effective when it comes to promotion and business decisions, though the gap there has closed in 2022. I think both agencies have improved - people here tend to forget that Cover at one point literally had to apologize for their management being so incompetent that they didn't even secure streaming rights for games.
Scuttle probably overreacts to criticism (which is mostly just bait at this point) of Anycolor, but given that the Holofags here drop essays defending their company routinely and get triggered almost weekly by the Welsh antichrist, I don't think there's any real difference. Tribalists tend to stick by their sides to hell and back.
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