Debate Vtuber simps about being pedophiles

[Saffronette]

It's really simple, when a website starts allowing itself to turn into a porn dump of any kind but specifically fetish stuff it will start attracting users who are just looking for that stuff exclusively and coomer shit always attracts the most degenerate people who will inevitably post illegal shit. Null had to ban a bunch of IP2 people because the users created a secondary thread based on the women of IP2 and they started posting all the lewds, nudes and porn. If Null started a scat and foot fetish thread it would get super degenerate super fast with new accounts featuring pfp's of someones mouth with shit in their teeth and would lead to secret discords with the most fucked up porn in it within a couple of months and draw in new members who will literally post pictures of shit in it.

I also find it funny when people say well why don't you report it to the authorities? Like nigger you really think people want to have/send reports to the police or watchdog groups, at the end of the day its the sites administrators job to take care of this, Users are encouraged to use the report function built into the forum not call the feds every time someone posts something illegal.

So you're telling me that this has happened several times on the site? Interesting.

But then again I never thought of KF as a prime site to look for degenerate porn when there are plenty of imageboards and DeviantArt to do it for you. Afaik NSFW is allowed on the site as long as you spoiler it or keep it within the topic of the thread. Obviously revenge porn and CSEM isn't allowed.

Although it is kind of odd that you listed those very specific fetishes as a "what if" scenario. Really makes ya think.

I have to ask what would like your dad think if you told him this.

Oh boy here we go, "what would dear old mum and dad think if you said this?!"

Most people's parents wouldn't care that much about what they say online unless it's actually severe things like death threats. I guess I gotta go tell 'em that had the wrong opinion about those dang dirty vtubers.

 

[Un Platano]

Food for thought:

 

[drain]

Most people's parents wouldn't care that much about what they say online unless it's actually severe things like death threats. I guess I gotta go tell 'em that had the wrong opinion about those dang dirty vtubers.

Being a filthy pedophile is way worse than some ween making death threats and if I had a kid I would be infinitely more concerned if I discovered they were pedos than a stupid edgy kid.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Oh boy here we go, "what would dear old mum and dad think if you said this?!"

Most people's parents wouldn't care that much about what they say online unless it's actually severe things like death threats. I guess I gotta go tell 'em that had the wrong opinion about those dang dirty vtubers.

So you're saying your dad wouldn't beat your ass if he had a full understanding of the situation?

 

[Krystal]

Don't mind me. Just dropping this off.

 

[Saffronette]

So you're saying your dad wouldn't beat your ass if he had a full understanding of the situation?

No??? Geez this makes me wonder what kind of parents you guys had...

Being a filthy pedophile is way worse than some ween making death threats and if I had a kid I would be infinitely more concerned if I discovered they were pedos than a stupid edgy kid.

Too bad that I'm not, it's hard out here trying to manage all these 30 year old men.

 

[JamusActimus]

No??? Geez this makes me wonder what kind of parents you guys had...

Maybe your dad did not beat you enought to stop you from lusting over underrage anime jpegs

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Too bad that I'm not, it's hard out here trying to manage all these 30 year old men.

Girl, i'm literally 5 years younger than you.
Don't give me any hints. I'm not interested.

 

[Nobunaga]

So you're saying your dad wouldn't beat your ass if he had a full understanding of the situation?

Uhh, shes black

 

[Kier]

Let us remember why Hentai exists in the first place. Null's scenario of banned adult porn was exactly what happened in Japan during the American Occupation. Hentai was created to circumvent porn bans. Its not a huge stretch to connect that, Loli hentai exists to circumvent CP bans and appease a certain demographic.

 

[Gravemind]

This thread has rather decisively proved to me that weebs of any sort genuinely cannot argue their stances worth a shit, but will still get indignant if you dare to say anything disparagingly about the things they like.

 

[A'Frosch]

Let us remember why Hentai exists in the first place. Null's scenario of banned adult porn was exactly what happened in Japan during the American Occupation. Hentai was created to circumvent porn bans. Its not a huge stretch to connect that, Loli hentai exists to circumvent CP bans and appease a certain demographic.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/japan-finally-outlaws-possession-child-pornography-n134326

Japan made possession of child pornography only illegal in 2014. I don't think that pedos wouldn't have just gotten the real deal if they wanted. (Yes, selling and distributing pornography was illegal, but I don't think that stopped anybody especially sine the internet exist and you can easily just trade that shit online especially if possessing it isn't even illegal.)

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Let us remember why Hentai exists in the first place. Null's scenario of banned adult porn was exactly what happened in Japan during the American Occupation. Hentai was created to circumvent porn bans. Its not a huge stretch to connect that, Loli hentai exists to circumvent CP bans and appease a certain demographic.

Except that pedophiles are routinely caught with exabytes of pornography involving real children. Why would they seek that out when they have an alleged alternative that they won't get prosecuted for stockpiling?

Also, The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife (so you don't have to search it up, it's tentacle erotica on a woodblock) is from the early 1800s. I seriously don't think your premise is correct.

This thread has rather decisively proved to me that weebs of any sort genuinely cannot argue their stances worth a shit, but will still get indignant if you dare to say anything disparagingly about the things they like.

That's what I've been saying... in many, many more words.

It just comes with the territory of mind-blindness, which comes with the territory of (poorly managed/internet-caused) autism.

 

[Slobs]

This thread has rather decisively proved to me that weebs of any sort genuinely cannot argue their stances worth a shit, but will still get indignant if you dare to say anything disparagingly about the things they like.

I imagine that the few, if any, weebs with common sense on here are staying out of this shit show. Nobody wants to agree with people that are making a fool out of themselves, nor is it sensible to argue with people that have their minds set and are just here to fling shit in the hopes that they'll cause a chimpout.

The only thing they should really take from this thread is that Null's opinions aside he's trying to be reasonable and tolerant with them, so the fags in the vtuber thread need to chill out and compromise when it comes to their behaviour. This isn't 4chan, or a private discord, there's a limit to what they can and should post if they wish to be welcomed here. It doesn't hurt not to go full retard, especially not on the site dedicated to documenting and mocking retards.

 

[Atatata]

Food for thought:
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Iirc the picture originally posted was the Loomis method, and was made to just give a nice standard for beginners. It mentions that 8 heads is actually taller than the actual standard, but that the shorter version looks like a wimp.
The book I think its from goes on other styled proportions later.

 

[Kier]

Except that pedophiles are routinely caught with exabytes of pornography involving real children. Why would they seek that out when they have an alleged alternative that they won't get prosecuted for stockpiling?

Ah yes, the people that are so awful that the feds get involved have worse stuff.

Perhaps some people escalate things. Even normal porn addicts escalate in their degenerate. Perhaps they bypasses the anime section period. Non offending pedos are still pedos. Jerking it to a fake 12 year old is still pedo. I'm not even insisting that watching a Vtuber all is pedo, though it's enough to creep me out.

 

[What the shit]

If I could give a sticker to this thread it would be holy shit has all of this been entertaining.

 

[Saffronette]

Iirc the picture originally posted was the Loomis method, and was made to just give a nice standard for beginners. It mentions that 8 heads is actually taller than the actual standard, but that the shorter version looks like a wimp.
The book I think its from goes on other styled proportions later.
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I thought it was weird he posted the regular loomis method next to the more stylized version. And the latter one's shortest character was basically a chibi while the tallest one has nearly shoujo proportions (75% leg). I'd figure most anime characters are short as they are because most people in Japan are about 5ft tall.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

The only thing they should really take from this thread is that Null's opinions aside he's trying to be reasonable and tolerant with them, so the fags in the vtuber thread need to chill out and compromise when it comes to their behaviour. This isn't 4chan, or a private discord, there's a limit to what they can and should post if they wish to be welcomed here. It doesn't hurt not to go full retard, especially not on the site dedicated to documenting and mocking retards.

I think "I don't like that on my site" would be sufficient justification for not having whatever he doesn't want on his site, instead of opening himself to be drawn into interminable shitflinging debates about whether V-tuber fans are pedophiles.

ADD: At any rate, it seems that he already does the former.

Ah yes, the people that are so awful that the feds get involved have worse stuff.

The state doesn't usually have to get the feds involved to bust a nonce.

Perhaps some people escalate things. Even normal porn addicts escalate in their degenerate. Perhaps they bypasses the anime section period.

That CP involves the sexual abuse of children makes it categorically different from lolicon.

I'm not even insisting that watching it at all is pedo, though it's enough to creep me out.

Do you have any idea how nonsensical this position is? You think those who use lolicon as wank material are pedophiles, but you can't readily say the same of those who "just" watch the same?

 

[Table Country]

Bruh, wtf? I had no idea this was a thing, I never closed out of a fucking google search so fast. I can not even believe this is allowed to be on the internet, it looks like straight up CP just right there on google images. Japan is a sick fucking country obsessed with pedophilia.

That's major fucked up, but I don't think we're allowed to cast stones when we have child beauty pagents and child drag shows.

Also I think I'll officially resign as Vtuberphile attourney. Not that I was putting much effort into it anyway.
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