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For Guido Reichstadter, an abortion-rights protester camped out in front of the courthouse since the beginning of June, the fencing is a sign of how out of touch the justices - or at least the six conservative ones - are with public sentiment.

"They are trying to insulate themselves from the effects of their actions. Why else would you put a fence up?" Reichstadter asked.

Reichstadter was arrested on June 6 for locking himself to the fence by the neck and spent a night in jail.
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That fucking name. :story:

Also there was a fucking assassination attempt, goddamn right they're going to increase security in response.
 
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No need to guess then some pro-abortion guys will hate that article from American Thinker.

June 18, 2022

Whether it’s killing a king or a baby, these are Unnatural Choices​

By Ned Cosby


Years ago, when I learned I would teach Macbeth as part of my high school English class, I got comfortable and started reading. Since I was already a fan of Shakespeare, I looked forward to the encounter. Oddly, I did not like it after my first pass. The play’s darkness felt overwhelming, but it also felt creepily familiar.
If I were to write a book or study guide about Macbeth, I might call it Unnatural Choices and Consequences. Macbeth was film noir before film noir was cool. The play’s protagonist starts out as a hero but takes a traitorous turn and ends up with his head on a spike. Madness and suicide await his loving wife.
It doesn’t feel honest to say I now love this tragedy, but it remains fascinating and thought-provoking. Years ago, I went to a movie theater to see Sophie’s Choice. As the reason for the film’s title unfolded before us, I was enraged. I recall wanting to stand up, rip my movie seat from the floor, and heave it at the screen. Like Sophie’s Choice, you can’t put Macbeth back in the bottle after experiencing it. It haunts you.

Lady Macbeth haunts me more than Macbeth himself. Male tyrants like Macbeth are a dime a dozen in world history, but Lady Macbeth is tough to categorize. When we first meet her, she sounds as ruthless as Jezebel of Old Testament fame. After convincing her husband to murder their guest, King Duncan, Lady Macbeth’s pesky conscience begins to reassert itself. As her husband embraces the dark side after stabbing King Duncan to death, she feels remorse and witnesses her husband’s transformation with growing alarm.
Growing up as a young boy, I learned that “girls were made of sugar and spice and everything nice.” Lady Macbeth does not fit that mold. She is a complex woman. She is already rich, but she wants more. When she learns from her husband of an opportunity for advancement, she develops it into a diabolical scheme. Once formulated, she tempts her husband with the scheme that will make them King and Queen of Scotland. Only regicide, argues Lady Macbeth, stands between them and their crowns.

Regicide, the killing of a king, is an unnatural act that shocked Shakespeare’s audiences in the early 17th century. Abortion, the killing of a human fetus, is also unnatural. In our coarser and greedier 21st century, however, many want it to be accessible, safe, and acceptable.

Ending a life inside or outside the womb should never be done lightly. Many, myself included, believe that life is a gift from God and that ending a life is a sin against God. It was greed that led Lady Macbeth to scheme King Duncan’s death. She thought being Queen of Scotland would make her very happy but this unnatural act brought her ruin and self-reproach.

Years ago, I dated a woman who had obtained an abortion. I was with her on a Mother’s Day. She was sad, and I asked her what was making her unhappy. She confessed to me feelings of remorse and regret. She told me that her child would have been a teenager on that day. She was missing her aborted child. Her choice to end her child’s life was haunting her.

At the beginning of the play, Lady Macbeth vocalizes a dark prayer asking for strength to act against King Duncan and for the ability to subdue her conscience. She is selling her soul for more power. She gets the crown she desires but misery is the reward for her unnatural act.

The voices for abortion on demand are loud in our land. Abortion is an unnatural act that diminishes all of us. Judgmentally, we point at Hitler’s Third Reich for the 12 million killed from 1939 to 1945. We say little to nothing about the 64 million babies aborted in the USA since 1973. Abortion is an unnatural act, and our hypocrisy compounds it. I suspect there will be consequences.
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Jaimas said:
That fucking name. :story:

Also there was a fucking assassination attempt, goddamn right they're going to increase security in response.
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Lol in a just world he’d be charged for making terroristic threats as he was speaking about the protection from violence the justices need when fulfilling their constitutional role.

Everyone knows what he meant.
 
JohnDoe said:
They have to release the decision by the end of June, so next Tuesday or Thursday. Probably Thursday, so they can immediately leave town after.
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There's no firm deadline at the end of June. Last year they released 3 opinions in July, and the year before that they released 10, including one on July 14 (Barr v. Lee), although the coof caused unusual delays.

Tuesday the 21st and Thursday the 23rd of this month are both announced opinion days. Monday the 25th and Wednesday the 27th probably will be too. There are 24 18 opinions (edit: miscounted) left to finish, so maybe they'll all be done by then, but I'd bet on a few stragglers being decided in the first week of July.

The justices may want to leave town right after, but, on the other hand, once it's done, protesters won't have anything to gain by continuing to pressure them. So I'd say it's all guesswork at this point.
 
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Lol in a just world he’d be charged for making terroristic threats as he was speaking about the protection from violence the justices need when fulfilling their constitutional role.

Everyone knows what he meant.
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I would say it would be insanity to suggest that they might deliberately let the crowd kill the justices and nominate replacements (Fire some police too), but given the shitshow of a circus post 2019, I'm not so certain that they won't now. Not ever since the gloves came off after the 6th.

Just remember, that Capitol Hill, the shiny beacon of Western Democracy, is encased by 18ft high barriers with shoot on sight orders. Truly we live in an enlightened era.
 
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兄貴 Forevermore said:
Just remember, that Capitol Hill, the shiny beacon of Western Democracy, is encased by 18ft high barriers with shoot on sight orders. Truly we live in an enlightened era.
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Christ, that hit me harder than it should have.

Gotta admit I've been wondering lately if we ever actually lived in a democracy at all or just a deteriorating simulacrum of one.
 
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moocow said:
Christ, that hit me harder than it should have.

Gotta admit I've been wondering lately if we ever actually lived in a democracy at all or just a deteriorating simulacrum of one.
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We're not in a democracy. Democracies are the worst form of government and inevitably lead to genocide.
We live in a Republic and the people in power are trying to change it to a democracy. That should tell you what you need to know.
 
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moocow said:
Christ, that hit me harder than it should have.

Gotta admit I've been wondering lately if we ever actually lived in a democracy at all or just a deteriorating simulacrum of one.
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That was supposed to be mockery, my dear friend.
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We're not in a democracy. Democracies are the worst form of government and inevitably lead to genocide.
We live in a Republic and the people in power are trying to change it to a democracy. That should tell you what you need to know.
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We live in an oligarchy slowly sliding towards (if not already with) aristocratic tendencies.
 
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Read this on Politico

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Kind of funny: the pro abortionist rather attack in the open while the pro lifers go the subtle route of gaining information on their targets and then strike. Who said the right leaning people don't learn from their opponents?
 
Norbert the Tiger said:
That is my hunch as well. I have put off reading the draft opinion because the fat lady has yet to sing. Kennedy famously switched at the last minute, No reason to read something until the clock goes to zero.
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Whatever it is, whether Roberts pulls a rabbit out of the hat or not, it's going to be an ugly abomination and the absolute last thing I need is to read the fucking thing twice.
 
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AnOminous said:
Whatever it is, whether Roberts pulls a rabbit out of the hat or not, it's going to be an ugly abomination and the absolute last thing I need is to read the fucking thing twice.
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The "leak" has made it a lose-lose situation for the court. It may be intresting enough to where the court goes for a 9-0 out of unity and then the conservatives "trade" (You aren't supposed to do this but the court is an inherently political organ) for a ruling on something else. My guess is that if they do, it will be on gun rights.
 
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AnOminous said:
Whatever it is, whether Roberts pulls a rabbit out of the hat or not, it's going to be an ugly abomination and the absolute last thing I need is to read the fucking thing twice.
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It seems we have a difference of opinion. I am deeply conflicted about abortion as a policy matter (I suppose it depends on who is getting the abortion, to be honest). In terms of legal reasoning though, Roe v Wade is one of the worst decisions ever. The opinion engages in the most preposterous, ludicrous reasoning to conjure up abortion as a constitutional right. It should have been oveturned in Casey, returning it back to the states, as abortion rights would probably have by federal law by now.
 
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Norbert the Tiger said:
It seems we have a difference of opinion. I am deeply conflicted about abortion as a policy matter (I suppose it depends on who is getting the abortion, to be honest). In terms of legal reasoning though, Roe v Wade is one of the worst decisions ever. The opinion engages in the most preposterous, ludicrous reasoning to conjure up abortion as a constitutional right. It should have been oveturned in Casey, returning it back to the states, as abortion rights would probably have by federal law by now.
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It is ironically the inverse of Dred Scott v Sandford. Right "logical" conclusion. Wrong public opinion (for the north, because they think they run this country).
 
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