General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

lucky fucker.. brb gonna go huff some copium
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Ina has forgotten how to human, she's 404'ing so hard :story:
EDIT: RIP steam. EN Curse at its finest :story:
 
What the fuck, it's like his break for mental health made Vox come back and double down on the weird coom shit. Man, I wanted better for you dude, I liked your collabs and everything, even if your solo content was a bit radioactive.
For all the nonsense that came out about Pomu she's just kept doing her thing without a mention of it, so I'll consider that a positive counterbalance for me.
 
Watching the Gura concert from earlier and while model clipping's always going to be an issue with more elaborate productions like this, it seems Ame's model in particular is scuffed as fuck, the jacket keeps clipping through the rest of the outfit. I'm surprised they didn't at least pick camera angles that'd obscure the worst of it.

I don't really like to numberfag so forgive my ignorance.

Pippa was talking about something that caught my attention. She said she thought by the first year she would be at 100k subs on her shitposting, but she would be streaming to maybe a hundred people when in reality she would be under 40k but streaming for 500 people a stream. I've been watching Kawaii streamers lately and what surprised me is that Nene is approaching 150 subs last I checked but she's lucky to get maybe 200 viewers a stream. The rest of Kawaii is lucky to get 100.

Is Pippa a flash in the pan? A minor Gura in the small corporate scene? The rest of Phase Connect are also doing better stream viewing numbers compared Kawaii, so I have to wonder if Kawaii subtly botting their talent numbers. They managed to raise the money for a full set of 3D so they have to have an audience but they all just seem absent when the talent goes live.

Sub to CCV ratio can vary wildly in fairness; Pippa's numbers are probably closer because her style and humour's not as accessible hence the lower sub count, but she fills that very specific niche perfectly so the people who're interested in her stuff follow closely (as evidenced by this turning into a Pippa fan thread every time she's streaming, guilty as charged for contributing to that lmao).

I wouldn't assume botting for a wider split honestly; inactive subs are a common thing especially for live content. If you're subscribed to even just a handful of vtubers you probably have multiple 3+ hour streams running on your sub feed at any given time and there's no way anyone's gonna be able to watch all of that - but most people tend not to bother unsubscribing from channels they don't watch that often so it can make the sub count look inflated even though it's genuine.

Off the top of my head I can think of only 4 'Internet savvy' vtubers that dont really pander to that audience.
Pippa, Moriko, Mari and Mint, and all of them have a huge CCV to followers ratio.

Finding that sweet spot's an art in itself and I think Pippa gets it spot on. Helps that she doesn't try to market herself as "based" or edgy or whatever (hell I distinctly remember her actively downplaying the whole "epic based rabbit" thing during the Ralph stream) so expectations are in check; she's a shitposter, not a drama channel or political commentator or whatever. I guess it's easier to keep a handle on things now the IBS tourists have either left or integrated properly so people in chat know how to read the room most of the time.
 
Oh yeah, speaking of Kiki, she somewhat recently had a meltdown after apparently, a 29 hour stream
https://archive.ph/jitXt (just comments, was too retarded to get the video)

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It was a wierd schizo parasocial meltdown over being a lone friendless NEET that was blasted to an audience of around like 50-60 people, i wish i had actually done my reps and archived it but it was privated really quickly after it was over

It honestly reminded me of Pippa/Yuni's singular on-stream breakdown that was posted here a while back, except instead of being happy that some faggots actually watch her it was just autism about how she was still not loved irl despite having a bunch of /vt/ niggers constantly UOHH post about her and her streams



EDIT: On the other hand on less Menhera, more Hag Love things
I didnt know that Botan had started to play Project Zomboid, i know some NijiENs did a multiplayer stream (it was a blast) but Botan is doing it solo and really makes me wish i knew moonspeak, Zomboid really triggers my autism and Botan seems like she's comfy playing it

 
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Honestly, I'm just amused that the first thing Hololive fans here think about when they see new Holo merch is Nijisanji.
It isn't really the only thing making it that way, but I guess it's part of it. I dunno, does anyone actually care about merch for any reason other than to have an excuse to tribalsperg? People are gonna throw money at whatever shit they want; if you buy Vtuber merch, especially for a reason other than supporting your favorite Vtuber without Susan Horseface taking her cut, you've already lost.

Here, let me give you a taste

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Sad to see nothing's really changed. If he refuses to make changes to his content, he shouldn't be surprised if the fujos who attacked his friends fail to change either. Still stuck on the "fantastic collab Vtuber, fucking unbearable solo Vtuber" vibe, I guess.

For actual content tax new Mofu video, arguably one of the better NijiJP translators around (those are valuable these days).
 
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Was looking at twitter while watching Gura concert. Saw a tweet from FallenShadow saying she was going to talk about her cat, Marley for a bit. She mentioned at the beginning and a couple other times she was not going to read chat. It was a black screen the whole time.

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To also add some context Marley died on Father's Day. FallenShadow's dad is also dead. The night of her dad's funeral is when she got Marley.
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Its mostly been crying. She detailed the timeline of Marely being sick to dying.
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Looks like I missed the rest of Myth showing up.

VOD is currently up. Attached an audio only download of the vod as well.
As someone whose stepdad suddenly passed recently (on my birthday no less), I can really empathize with what she must be feeling right now. I hope she's able to find the strength to carry on, even though she's already trying her hardest.
 
Watching 2views has highlighted how talents have to interact differently at each stage of success. 2views live and die on each person showing up and hopefully membering for general financial welfare. Push to 3view and the calculus might start: how hard are you inclining and can you afford to not bond with OG's? 4view and above is all about content - you are clear of the parasocial bog and if you choose to GFE or similar you do so on top.
One thing that really bugs me about facedoxxing is that as someone who watches Vtubers, I'm in it for the kayfabe. This medium is cool because you can be judged on your talent instead of your looks, and yet people insist on, say, comparing Pomu to fucking Pantsu Party just because they have features in common. I'm not against looking into past lives entirely, but seeking out what someone looks like irl, wrecking the fantasy, then bitching about that makes no sense to me.
Only Oga got me on this one. This won't affect how I view Pomu, she still cool.
As a palette cleanser of sorts. She did an amazing karaoke about 2 days ago. I hate that she think's she's shit yet she has an amazing voice, just hope she gets a bit more confidence. Also clipped her Salome impression which will come out in like 10 minutes.
God Damn she is a great singer. Nice raspy and huskey voice
Reading through this thread feels like a chore sometimes.
To be honest, this thread kinda sucks for getting general news in the chuba space. I've found Era's thread to more streamlined in that regard due to it's much more restrictive rules and smaller base(20-30 active posters?). because who the fuck wants to make an Era account?
Their thread is much slower than this one and you get more happenings per page (as opposed to 3 pages of the same reply to the same post that you get here). Though, Era is Era and some of you will find their opinions regarding said news to be utter fucking dogshit.

That said, I'm sure most of you didn't join the thread expecting to get some shitty news feed. But, the amount of empty sperging here sometimes reaches critical levels. The farms is still the best place to freely discuss anything chuba related. Whether that's roommates/past lives or you want to freely call Yagoo a nigger faggot without some janny foaming at the mouth. Also, for what it counts this is the only place I've found that so willingly accepts Hag Love.
What the fuck is Era?!
Don't want to get in the way of Phase Connect's stuff but Shuba/Marine/Towa's Game Shop Maruyama is ending:


It was one of the better Holo collab series and I thought would have easiest time of staying around.
I hope they are just mixing up the cast. Two seasons is alot.
Girl's getting a new outfit
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The fact I learned about this chuuba from here is truly interesting. She also is a great example of: staying true to your interests is interesting and also small doses of people you wouldn't normally hang out with is something that makes vtubers fun. For Abigail her concentrated earnestness hurts my soul to watch, it's a good type of pain.

Abigail and Kiara stole each others outfits
Wow, missed the boat on this one. Then again where was this posted before? PCG is the worst thread of 4chan due to insanity - rip Phasehex - so unless it was here or shilled by talents wtf?
I already showed you bae first birthday merch. What you are saying is just cope. Bae is nowhere near the biggest in holo and yet she have that kind of merch.
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Watame and others have talked about paying upfront for merch, does Niji not allow this?
 
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What the fuck, it's like his break for mental health made Vox come back and double down on the weird coom shit. Man, I wanted better for you dude, I liked your collabs and everything, even if your solo content was a bit radioactive.
For all the nonsense that came out about Pomu she's just kept doing her thing without a mention of it, so I'll consider that a positive counterbalance for me.
in fairness, he literally said he wouldn’t change his content, so if you expected him to that’s your fault. He just said he’d try to make clear to mention it’s fiction and I vaguely remember something about warning how explicit it is

I didn’t watch the rp so I can’t judge on if he did that

edit: I'd say he followed through on it. This is the pinned message
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Here, let me give you a taste

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When I watch Luxiem, I subconsciously avoid Vox because at least the other boys don't pander to their horny demographic this hard. Yeah, I'm not his target demographic, because since April his
main target has only really become horny asian women, but god fucking damn do I think he's worse than Rushia at this point. Now we wait for leaks that Vox secretly messages his most obsessive fans for private virtual blowjobs.

It isn't really the only thing making it that way, but I guess it's part of it. I dunno, does anyone actually care about merch for any reason other than to have an excuse to tribalsperg?
See, that's the thing. To all and any tribalfags, any reason is a good reason to sperge


I have to wonder though how smaller corpos make money, yet have the capacity to give their talents a base salary. I mean, if they're mostly 3views, how does the company make money from that talent? Or am I just underestimating how much money one makes from YouTube?
 
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