‘It now feels as though I am on my own’ - Trans-man discovers being a man is more difficult than she imagined

‘It now feels as though I am on my own’​

Zander Keig, 52, San Diego

Coast Guard veteran. Works at Naval Medical Center San Diego as a clinical social work case manager. Editor of anthologies about transgender men. Started transition in 2005.

Prior to my transition, I was an outspoken radical feminist. I spoke up often, loudly and with confidence. I was encouraged to speak up. I was given awards for my efforts, literally — it was like, “Oh, yeah, speak up, speak out.” When I speak up now, I am often given the direct or indirect message that I am “mansplaining,” “taking up too much space” or “asserting my white male heterosexual privilege.” Never mind that I am a first-generation Mexican American, a transsexual man, and married to the same woman I was with prior to my transition.

I find the assertion that I am now unable to speak out on issues I find important offensive and I refuse to allow anyone to silence me. My ability to empathize has grown exponentially, because I now factor men into my thinking and feeling about situations. Prior to my transition, I rarely considered how men experienced life or what they thought, wanted or liked about their lives. I have learned so much about the lives of men through my friendships with men, reading books and articles by and for men and through the men I serve as a licensed clinical social worker.

Social work is generally considered to be “female dominated,” with women making up about 80 percent of the profession in the United States. Currently I work exclusively with clinical nurse case managers, but in my previous position, as a medical social worker working with chronically homeless military veterans — mostly male — who were grappling with substance use disorder and severe mental illness, I was one of a few men among dozens of women.

Zander Keig, a Coast Guard veteran and a board member for the Transgender American Veterans Association, attends its meeting in Washington.
Plenty of research shows that life events, medical conditions and family circumstances impact men and women differently. But when I would suggest that patient behavioral issues like anger or violence may be a symptom of trauma or depression, it would often get dismissed or outright challenged. The overarching theme was “men are violent” and there was “no excuse” for their actions.

I do notice that some women do expect me to acquiesce or concede to them more now: Let them speak first, let them board the bus first, let them sit down first, and so on. I also notice that in public spaces men are more collegial with me, which they express through verbal and nonverbal messages: head lifting when passing me on the sidewalk and using terms like “brother” and “boss man” to acknowledge me. As a former lesbian feminist, I was put off by the way that some women want to be treated by me, now that I am a man, because it violates a foundational belief I carry, which is that women are fully capable human beings who do not need men to acquiesce or concede to them.


What continues to strike me is the significant reduction in friendliness and kindness now extended to me in public spaces. It now feels as though I am on my own: No one, outside of family and close friends, is paying any attention to my well-being.

I can recall a moment where this difference hit home. A couple of years into my medical gender transition, I was traveling on a public bus early one weekend morning. There were six people on the bus, including me. One was a woman. She was talking on a mobile phone very loudly and remarked that “men are such a–holes.” I immediately looked up at her and then around at the other men. Not one had lifted his head to look at the woman or anyone else. The woman saw me look at her and then commented to the person she was speaking with about “some a–hole on the bus right now looking at me.” I was stunned, because I recall being in similar situations, but in the reverse, many times: A man would say or do something deemed obnoxious or offensive, and I would find solidarity with the women around me as we made eye contact, rolled our eyes and maybe even commented out loud on the situation. I’m not sure I understand why the men did not respond, but it made a lasting impression on me.


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There was another feminist that did an experiment similar to this, but just dressed up like a dude for a year or something to pretend to be one. Had to go through therapy to overcome trauma from the experience; they became so depressed and admitted men's lives are harder.

I think they tried to shut down her documentary.
 
There was another feminist that did an experiment similar to this, but just dressed up like a dude for a year or something to pretend to be one. Had to go through therapy to overcome trauma from the experience; they became so depressed and admitted men's lives are harder.

I think they tried to shut down her documentary.
Dude, you gotta share that with us. See if you can find the name, I'd love to check it out.
 
There was another feminist that did an experiment similar to this, but just dressed up like a dude for a year or something to pretend to be one. Had to go through therapy to overcome trauma from the experience; they became so depressed and admitted men's lives are harder.

I think they tried to shut down her documentary.

 
Prior to my transition, I was an outspoken radical feminist.

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There was another feminist that did an experiment similar to this, but just dressed up like a dude for a year or something to pretend to be one. Had to go through therapy to overcome trauma from the experience; they became so depressed and admitted men's lives are harder.

I think they tried to shut down her documentary.

She details how much work she spent with the disguise. She definitely made more of an effort in the daily appearance than troons despite not being one.
 
She was a lesbian if I remember right and tried dating a woman or two, then found they were horribly disinterested in her version of a man that was in touch with his feelings.

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Waaaaay more than just that. She saw how men were treated, expected to behave, and how women's complaints have no real foundation.
outright says being a woman is more of a privilege
 
If the average woman were forced to suddenly go through life as a man their suicide rates would eclipse that of troons easily.
Norah Vincent also has you covered on that front, she became extremely depressed and suicidal during and after spending 18 months as a man, wrote a book about how terrible our current mental healthcare system is called Voluntary Madness.
 
We need to go back to locking up these mentally ill weirdos like they used to.

There used to be these great big mansions out in the middle of nowhere. They weren't mansions they were asylums where they locked away all the crazies and kept them out of societies hair. Then some guy named Reagan came along and some shitbag advisers told him that all these mentally ill loonies would be better off in the outside world with their families. Like all screwed up people with issues their families couldn't put up with them either, so they put them out on the streets. Now they spend their time roaming around giving society a hard time.

They need to be locked away in a padded cell doped up to their eyes on Thorazine. Not running around the countryside voting for democrats.
 
What continues to strike me is the significant reduction in friendliness and kindness now extended to me in public spaces. It now feels as though I am on my own: No one, outside of family and close friends, is paying any attention to my well-being.
Well A. Your are a walking talking freakshow. You've chosen to advertise your crazy on the outside. And B. Yes that is the truth about men. Nobody cares about your feelings. Nobody is there to pander to you. Men neither desire or expect these things. That feeling of "on your own". That's baked into the male of the species. They are hard wired for it. Men do not expect kindness in public spaces. Nor do they care. The fact that you are having these feelings or even noticing these things is kind of proof that you are not a man and never will be.
 
"Zander" .. Yeah, nah. Nobody was fooled or bought that the moment they saw it. Either way you have seen a tiny, tiny slice of what society expects out of a man. You will now be demonized for pointing out that it's not 'easy' or what have you. Being a man in a female dominated workspace sucks just as much as being a woman in a man's. You're going to get treated like a packmule and an idiot.
 
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