Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Creep3r]

Oh, so she was a writer. That makes sense now.

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Yep. Imagine posing as your own daughter to get your way with a toy company. These people are pathetic and have been pathetic since they were put in charge.

Wasn't this a reaction from one of the EAfront games?
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Yep, but similar comments were also coming out about Phasma too, who fittingly enough was revealed when all the Journos vs GamerGate female armor drama happened. What's funny is that Phasma didn't even exist in neither George's outline or even the crap made by JJ and friends. According to the art book, she was added at the last minute after KK saw a rejected doodle of Emo Ren as a ducktrooper and then they supposedly made her female once the tall broad from GoT showed up since this was the time when they desperately wanted to turn SW into GoT too and attract its fans instead of SW fans. Then Lucasfilm and Bad Robot used the gay armor drama to bring more attention to there androgynous and useless she-thing since any publicity is good publicity.

The Disney drones on Twitter tried - again - to cancel him because he had invited Drunk3PO and the Geeks+Gamers guy on a livestream.

It would be nice if this were the last straw and he realized that trying to be neutral or appeal to Disney-Lucasfilm and its fans just yields no loyalties. But no doubt he's going to go right back to the Disney drones once Ahsoka comes out since he can't resist Filoni poontang either. If he doesn't though I'll be pleasantly surprised and hope he stays away from Doomcock's crowd. But considering how much he creams over Aphra and Chewbacca the Black despite how awful their comics are and Aphra just cucking Luke, it doesn't seem likely.

Spoiler: Rant about Kenobi and the fandom

The problem from the get go is that Disney hasn't got any people left who respect the original source material and that is compunded by the entire staff making this shit tier nu star wars content being incompentent. When Filioni does it he usally has an idea of a pay off in his mind but isn't a talented enough writer to make it work with the existing contiute so he infantiles other characters to make his own ocs seem cooler (funnily enough often Kenobi in TCW). But these guys don't even have a vision of what they want do, there is no rhyme or reason to the characters and their decisions. It seems like they only want a paycheck.

At the begining of episode 1 of Kenobi it starts off with devaluing the empire. With the Jedi in the bar, what the space nazis can't hunt down a guy screaming I'am a jedi deal with me now in 10 years like Korra from TLAB? Then we find out that another jedi master survied order 66 in Quinlan voss and he's actively helping the rebels without any intervention from the empire. Devaluing both the prequels (order 66) and the OT for no reason except to keep Fagloni happy and to build up this shitty path idea. So now we got both Asshoka and Quinlan running around during the OT doing fuck all to help anyone except this mystery path that we can bet it and Ashoka is gonna be inolved in resurection of plo koon.

Then we have kenobi who seems more based on the Clone wars then in the actual films.
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Sound like a parody post but there are a ton of people agreeing with him so im gonna take it at face value. It seems like this entire show exist to humiliate Kenobi. He can't fight or use the force anymore except for when the plot demands it. Gone is the wit and the warrior instead replaced by a guy who needs to be saved by the female self inserts and disneys new rebels.

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The path idea is also complelty retarded and is obviously and allegory to something like the southern border, jews fleeing europe during ww2 or the underground railroad. To make the empire look even fucking dumber and get some more of those liberal bucks by getting them comparing it to the republicucks or Drumpf. Where was the path during the OT? Why wouldn't Kenobi tell Luke of Quinlan Voss so he could go rebuild the Jedi order with him after Yoda died

Its obvious that Furloni has a lot of influnce on what goes on in modern Star wars. Kenobis character in the Kenobi show is not at all like him and is more like the later seasons clone wars where he spends most of the time getten beaten up and outsmarted. Anakin in the flashback also seems a lot like Furlonis interpretation of him. Same with the refernces to Quinlan Voss that nobody gives a fuck about except Furloni.

https://insidethemagic.net/2022/06/samuel-l-jackson-will-sacrifice-oscars-to-return-to-star-wars-and-mcu-kb1/

Are ya ready kids for the Mace Windu lives arc? Cause it sure seems like its coming. Cause we can never allow a scene to have impact everything got to be hollowed out so we can sell more stuff.

Of course the characterizations are closer to Filoni's than anything else... I'm not even surprised anymore. And a Windu spinoff? Really? Filoni is on the rampage it seems. Now to wait for the Plo Koon revival which he has been wanting to do for decades despite even George thinking that was too retarded. And the fact that its Mace Windu makes me certain that SWT will go crawling back to Lucasfilm for the sake of seeing Mace Windu fight Vader, Maul, Ahsoka, Filoninquisitor or what have you.

 

[Ghostse]

world building from the creator and his team that weren't just made on the spot to pander to Chinese yuan or woke bucks while stealing and butchering the plot of a better movie

The primitive aliens are literally in communication with nature. They use their hippy shit to defeat the evil miners and space marines (who for some reason didn't just us their space plane to orbitally bombard them). And a white guy becomes a darker-hued indigenous race and has a big-titty goth tribal girlfriend. And that was a decade ago. I'm pretty sure we'll be looking at all sorts of shit for any upcoming movies like their exploration vessel being named the Trevon Martin.

The chinese are all up for anything that feed the Western evironmentalists because the more expensive they make western industry, the more business gets funnel to china who gives no fucks.

The movie also rips off Dances with Wolves. But you said "Better", so I will concede you that point.

 

[King Dead]

True, I mean at least Avatar looks like it will have autistic levels of storytelling, lore and world building from the creator and his team that weren't just made on the spot to pander to Chinese yuan or woke bucks while stealing and butchering the plot of a better movie, unlike Disney did with SW. So you can at least say it will at least still have the same "spirit", regardless of its quality. Question is if Disney will want to give the franchise the Dark Fate treatment.

Dark Fate... You know Terminator's new title really is fitting to not just how stupid and destructive it is to its setting, but it also perfectly fits well with every other forced sequel or reboot that took a massive shit on pre-established characters and settings for quick bucks and soapboxing. Pray your favorite thing stays dead or obscure lest it falls to a Dark Fate as well.

That's honestly the only benefit I see from this. But I have to wonder, sites are saying that the future movies will deal with them leaving Pandora and exploring other planets in the AC system.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/01/18/the-history-and-future-of-the-avatar-sequels

If they're going to do that, it sounds to me like Disney or Cameron wants to turn Avatar into either the next Star Wars, Star Trek or Battlestar. If that is the end goal, will the series still be able to draw in audiences and blue coomer weirdos if it moves away from the blue people (personally I think it can as long as every planet isn't made a Dances with Wolves ripoff, but then again I like it when a series explores more of its setting)? Because I really hope that is the case since it means Disney will dump Star Wars like they did Tron for the sake of milking their new scifi piggybank. Only drawback is that it means more money for disney and that they'll lock Star Wars away into the disney vault with all the lame and woke garbage they've glued onto it.

But... but the title "AVATAR" is a direct reference to the fact that they're humans controlling alien bodies. Having it be some mega space opera would be like... having a show called "Star Trek" be all about modern day LA--

Oh.

Kill me now.

Allow me to do a bit more autistic speculation.

So Pandora as a world is not super hospitable to humans. The climate's fine, but the atmosphere is poisonous, which is why the human characters needed to be wearing gas masks or be inside vehicles at all times. Avatars don't have this issue, obviously, since they're biologically identical to the Na'vi.

We already know that Sam Worthington and Zoe Saldana are signed on through at least the third movie, so their characters are going to continue to be a part of the story. If the story does end up exploring other worlds of the system, it's entirely possible that those planets would have a different atmospheric composition, potentially even poisonous to Na'vi biology. If that were the case, then perhaps new Avatars would have to be developed for the native species of these worlds, and maybe our protagonists would end up having to use them. Human brain copied into a Na'vi body, controlling an Avatar of an as-yet-unseen third alien race. Trippy.

Alternatively, it's entirely possible that Avatars will still be in use in the sequel, just by other human characters, keeping the name relevant. And as I said, the same technology could be developed for other worlds with other alien species. So it's not too outlandish to think that the name won't still be relevant for the sequels, even if most people watching probably don't remember that "Avatar" refers to a specific concept in the movie. It's much like brainlets going "dude Inception lol" whenever they see a nested dream in fiction, unaware that "inception" referred to the specific act of implanting an idea in someone's subconscious through their dreams.

Yes, I'm still upset about that one.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Are ya ready kids for the Mace Windu lives arc? Cause it sure seems like its coming. Cause we can never allow a scene to have impact everything got to be hollowed out so we can sell more stuff.

Please Disney, give us a really dumb explanation as to why Mac Windu couldn't help Luke in the original trilogy.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Please Disney, give us a really dumb explanation as to why Mac Windu couldn't help Luke in the original trilogy.

He's going to be in a coma or super duper sad.

 

[Creep3r]

Please Disney, give us a really dumb explanation as to why Mac Windu couldn't help Luke in the original trilogy.

If the Filoni Rebels level of writing is anything to go by, Windu is probably going to be revealed to be related to that black terrorist from Filoni Wars and Rogue One, claiming that he was helping him with the Rebel Alliance since every Filoni character who survived his first show had a hand in making the Rebel Alliance, either that or they're going to have it so he was being held captive at Vader's tuning fork playhouse on Mustafar since they love whoring the hell out of it and Tatooine.

Allow me to do a bit more autistic speculation.

So Pandora as a world is not super hospitable to humans. The climate's fine, but the atmosphere is poisonous, which is why the human characters needed to be wearing gas masks or be inside vehicles at all times. Avatars don't have this issue, obviously, since they're biologically identical to the Na'vi.

We already know that Sam Worthington and Zoe Saldana are signed on through at least the third movie, so their characters are going to continue to be a part of the story. If the story does end up exploring other worlds of the system, it's entirely possible that those planets would have a different atmospheric composition, potentially even poisonous to Na'vi biology. If that were the case, then perhaps new Avatars would have to be developed for the native species of these worlds, and maybe our protagonists would end up having to use them. Human brain copied into a Na'vi body, controlling an Avatar of an as-yet-unseen third alien race. Trippy.

Alternatively, it's entirely possible that Avatars will still be in use in the sequel, just by other human characters, keeping the name relevant. And as I said, the same technology could be developed for other worlds with other alien species. So it's not too outlandish to think that the name won't still be relevant for the sequels, even if most people watching probably don't remember that "Avatar" refers to a specific concept in the movie. It's much like brainlets going "dude Inception lol" whenever they see a nested dream in fiction, unaware that "inception" referred to the specific act of implanting an idea in someone's subconscious through their dreams.

Yes, I'm still upset about that one.

That makes sense, but does that mean the cat smurfs are going to develop flight travel or is this gonna be more human colonizing stories? Also the trailer for the sequel shows the human kid just living with the navi and always needing to wear the mask. Like what kind of miserable life must that be?

Still I'm divided on whether I want this to succeed or not. Like I said before, more money for Disney is bad imo, but Avatar succeeding might mean it replaces Star Wars as Disney's enslaved scifi franchise.

Personally all I hope for, as unlikely as it is, that if one day SW ever becomes no longer worthwhile for Disney or someone with more money wants it, disney sells it but keeps the exclusive rights to every piece of shit they made while it was under their ownership with no one else being allowed to use it, thus forcing whoever gets Star Wars to make new stuff or just ignore disney wank, but that's horribly optimistic.

 

[Midwit]

So I just finished watching Episode 5 of Kenobi. It was kinda shitty.

Much like RWBY, a show I once earnestly enjoyed in spite of how bad it was, Star Wars has a become a shell of its former self; bereft of any redeeming qualities and existing solely to keep the company that produces it afloat as it's their only real moneymaker. Much like RWBY, Kenobi has written itself into a hole from which it cannot escape; as Bobby-Wan and Leea are trapped within an old transport with no hyperspace capability, trapped in the same system as a mile-long warship containing no less than a full wing of TIE fighters (and doubtlessly Vader's custom) with which to chase and destroy them. As we know this show ends with its 6th episode (unless they continue the story directly via season 2) we know that our protagonists must return to their homes in order to ensure the status quo so as to lead into the Original film, not that the show has demonstrated much regard for this continuity, and also requires that Reva also travel to Tatooine despite her circumstances. And on that note...

The shows' treatment of injury that should be fatal as little more than an inconvenience for characters the moment it becomes necessary to the plot is setting a very bad precedent for the franchise, I accepted it in the case of Maul as he ended up being one of the few good parts of TCW for me and his character was actually rather entertaining to follow compared to the rest of Filoni's originals, save a few standouts. The idea that getting an energy blade puttting out enough energy to melt metal in a matter of seconds is not only survivable but also little more than a minor injury is absurd; the moment such a thing enters your body your skin would melt, the moisture flash boil and everything internal would be fucked beyond repair, but I guess that's a bit too graphic for a film series that had a bloody dismemberment, a man having his chest blown open and a young man seeing the charred remains of his only family in its very first outing.

But what about the rest of the show?

Why it's Obi-Wan Kenobi, Lucasfilm's answer to a question that nobody fucking asked! Much like many of Disney's comic series the show serves as a bridge between the PT and OT, a "midquel" if you like, to the story of Obi-Wan Kenobi; and much like the Vader comics before it it's a bunch of edgy, poorly concieved trash that serves only to mischaracterise and damage their very suject matter. Vader should not be destroying armies single-handedly whilst spouting edgy one-liners about how he's surrounded by "fear and dead men", he should be learning to adapt and get over himself, perhaps pondering on his mistakes and turning from the rage-fueled child murderer from RotS into the intelligent, professional leader he was in the OT. Unfortunately none of that generates headlines nor does it make fanboys cloom and thus Disney creates things to appeal to their most vocal fanbase; series after series of pathetic step-dads who may be a good vehicle for action scenes but lacking in anything truly interesting beyond the myriad superficialities that define them, along with whatever stupid shit the books and comics are doing.

Now bugger off, go find other Banthas, make baby Banthas. I'm done for now.
Goddamn transgender clone troopers jesus fucking christ Gisney

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

Honestly, and this might be just the tinfoil hat getting tighter: With the rep Mace Windu has in the current Star Wars fandom (from what I've seen he's been pegged as 'Samuel Jackson is awesome, but the character is too mean to my favourite characters!'), I'm like 80% sure that if Mace Windu did return, they'd make him a villainous religious zealot character, our first big evil jedi who isn't a turncoat or sith-lite

 

[Flexo]

This is Star Wars now
Look at it!
LOOK AT IT!

Eh. I mean it's Lego SW. That's the equivalent of SW Detours/Robot Chicken.

Allow me to do a bit more autistic speculation.

So Pandora as a world is not super hospitable to humans. The climate's fine, but the atmosphere is poisonous, which is why the human characters needed to be wearing gas masks or be inside vehicles at all times. Avatars don't have this issue, obviously, since they're biologically identical to the Na'vi.

We already know that Sam Worthington and Zoe Saldana are signed on through at least the third movie, so their characters are going to continue to be a part of the story. If the story does end up exploring other worlds of the system, it's entirely possible that those planets would have a different atmospheric composition, potentially even poisonous to Na'vi biology. If that were the case, then perhaps new Avatars would have to be developed for the native species of these worlds, and maybe our protagonists would end up having to use them. Human brain copied into a Na'vi body, controlling an Avatar of an as-yet-unseen third alien race. Trippy.

Alternatively, it's entirely possible that Avatars will still be in use in the sequel, just by other human characters, keeping the name relevant. And as I said, the same technology could be developed for other worlds with other alien species. So it's not too outlandish to think that the name won't still be relevant for the sequels, even if most people watching probably don't remember that "Avatar" refers to a specific concept in the movie. It's much like brainlets going "dude Inception lol" whenever they see a nested dream in fiction, unaware that "inception" referred to the specific act of implanting an idea in someone's subconscious through their dreams.

Yes, I'm still upset about that one.

As an Inception fan: Word.

I mean I thought about that after I posted it - of humans using a new kind of "drone" to explore worlds. The problem is they kind of shot themselves in the foot with the first movie as that was hardly the focus of it (even though the paralyzed man getting to walk again SHOULD have had more impact). Heck with what we see, there's apparently convoluted reasons that the Avatars have to be custom made and are apparently so expensive, it's cheaper to ship in oxygen and gasmasks for all the workers than have them pilot Avatars from space.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing with you, just pointing out the first movie has put up a lot of its own roadblocks in canon for this possible idea. Part of me is actually intrigued by the idea of bio-drones being used to explore new worlds and interact with new species, there could be some interesting stories there.

Too bad James Cameron wasted his entire time on a jungle planet that tentacle rapes you.

(I mean the movie makes clear the largest mcguffin ore is under the sacred tree - but there's also floating mountains in the world also because of that ore? How can those mountains float with LESS ore than what's under a stationary tree? And how isn't it in humanity's interest and ease to just haul one of those mountains the rest of the way into space and mine it to their heart's content?)

Please Disney, give us a really dumb explanation as to why Mac Windu couldn't help Luke in the original trilogy.

At this point I'm hoping Windu shows up with an eye patch and they just completely mess up which property he's in.

 

[Creep3r]

At this point I'm hoping Windu shows up with an eye patch and they just completely mess up which property he's in.

Considering the amount of fanart that exists for it along with Hidalgo, Rejwan, Porgcuck Martin and Filoni's penchant for only listening to the most obnoxiously vocal of mainstream consoomers for fan input, Sgt. Mace Fury is almost certain or they will at least have him with a blind or cybernetic eye. Meanwhile Doug Chiang won't do anything about it as usual since he's happy as long as Filoni keeps using prequel and Filoni Wars references to show off his concept art.

 

[Hot Dog]

Does anyone have the despecialized edition of the original trilogy in 1080p or know where to find it? All the links on the web are fucking trash or lead to grifters.

 

[Sneed F91]

Does anyone have the despecialized edition of the original trilogy in 1080p or know where to find it? All the links on the web are fucking trash or lead to grifters.

This is better than the Despecialized Edition imo. It's 4K77 spliced with the Disney+ 4K remasters of the OT so it's the highest quality footage possible. The same guy made 4K remasters of ESB and ROTJ and they all look amazing. I got my copy off of a torrent site.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

This is Star Wars now
Look at it!
LOOK AT IT!

The Emperor in a bathing suit?

 

[DavidS877]

Does anyone have the despecialized edition of the original trilogy in 1080p or know where to find it? All the links on the web are fucking trash or lead to grifters.

Signs point to that being the v3 edition which doesn't yet exist. 4k77 and 4k83 exist but apparently not yet 4k80(Empire Strikes Back)

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

https://insidethemagic.net/2022/06/samuel-l-jackson-will-sacrifice-oscars-to-return-to-star-wars-and-mcu-kb1/

Are ya ready kids for the Mace Windu lives arc? Cause it sure seems like its coming. Cause we can never allow a scene to have impact everything got to be hollowed out so we can sell more stuff.

They brought Darth Maul back after he was cut in half and fell into a bottomless chasm.
Bringing Mace Windu back wouldn't be surprising.
But, like Maul, completely unnecessary.

 

[Hot Dog]

This is better than the Despecialized Edition imo. It's 4K77 spliced with the Disney+ 4K remasters of the OT so it's the highest quality footage possible. The same guy made 4K remasters of ESB and ROTJ and they all look amazing. I got my copy off of a torrent site.

Signs point to that being the v3 edition which doesn't yet exist. 4k77 and 4k83 exist but apparently not yet 4k80(Empire Strikes Back)

Thanks. It looks like there are some hoops to jump through but I'll figure it out.

 

[Nigger Respecter]

At some point I'd like to see some of these Star Wars media properties to just get far the fuck away from any of the trilogies. Set it 1000 years in the past/future. A whole new spin. That won't happen of course. But it'd be nice.

The biggest problem with filling in all these little details between movies is there wasn't much there to begin with in Star Wars '77. It was deliberately a sparsely explained universe that didn't need much detail outside of what was on the screen and a few lines for worldbuilding. Turning those handful of words into entire storylines was goofy enough in the EU, but at least it had heart because they were stories being written by chain-smoking genre writers that didn't give a flying fuck about appeasing Disney's demands, they were just shitting out sci-fi novels left and right (most of those guys wrote Star Trek stuff, Babylon 5 stuff, etc).

We just don't need to know what Obi-Wan did between the prequels and Star Wars '77 outside of what he told Luke. In an ideal world, that's all we would have ever gotten and we'd be damn happy about it imagining how cool those Clone Wars must have been and how fucking twisted this Darth Vader guy was to kill Luke's dad.

It really can't be overstated how perfect that first movie is. Just great movement and action, wonderful setpieces and establishing shots of interesting places and characters. An extremely simple plot that all flows together seamlessly as each scene hands the baton off to the next one. I don't think I can even say what the "plot" is in any of the sequel movies. And I don't know what the message is in any of them (if there is one). Incoherent cynical dogshit for babies

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

At some point I'd like to see some of these Star Wars media properties to just get far the fuck away from any of the trilogies. Set it 1000 years in the past/future. A whole new spin. That won't happen of course. But it'd be nice.

Got you, fam:

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

They brought Darth Maul back after he was cut in half and fell into a bottomless chasm.
Bringing Mace Windu back wouldn't be surprising.
But, like Maul, completely unnecessary.

There was a theory that Mara Jade's lightsaber used to be Mace's, so I can see him returning with Black Mara as his apprentice.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

It really can't be overstated how perfect that first movie is. Just great movement and action, wonderful setpieces and establishing shots of interesting places and characters. An extremely simple plot that all flows together seamlessly as each scene hands the baton off to the next one. I don't think I can even say what the "plot" is in any of the sequel movies. And I don't know what the message is in any of them (if there is one). Incoherent cynical dogshit for babies

I know Rian Johnson poisoned the "muh themes" well, but what was the theme of ANH? Faith. One of many problems is that modern storytellers don't actually have faith and can't convey it. So when it comes time to write TFA, the scenes lack that element. What does Rey learn really? That the Force is a superpower--not a reflection of her morality. It doesn't feel like a progression of events like the OT was because the POV character isn't actually learning much of anything. She certainly doesn't become a better person at the end of it.

TLJ seems like the closest to conveying the absence of faith, but because what passes for deep is ironic hipster, it doesn't work either using the one character who already had true faith at that point. That's why RLM insists that TLJ tries to be interesting, It's still completely wrong for Luke (might've worked for Han though), especially when all the failures are self-inflicted so no one is deserving of respect.

TRoS doesn't qualify as a movie. A movie is a series of scenes placed together in a sequence. I doubt it meets that criterion.